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Old 01/06/09, 5:07 PM   #1626
testthewest
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Dalvengyr (EU)
Is
Extract of Necromatic Power
Binds when picked up
Unique
Trinket
Requires Level 80
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 95 (2.07% @ L80).
Equip: Each time one of your spells deals periodic damage, there is a chance 788 to 1312 additional damage will be dealt.


only modeled to give 95 crit, or is the proc somewhere included? Seems that there is as a FFB mage it is only counted as 95 crit.

Edit: Thx for the fast answer!

Last edited by testthewest : 01/07/09 at 2:28 PM.

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Old 01/06/09, 5:11 PM   #1627
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If a trinket's tooltip only shows it static passive value, we haven't modeled its proc/effect yet. Right Click, Edit, add whatever stats you feel are right to it.

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Old 01/06/09, 5:43 PM   #1628
Latas
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I noticed that the Embrace of the Spider listing is shown as having both the 505 haste proc and the haste proc calculated as a constant 84. I'm assuming its just supposed to have the proc listed on it and not the calculated constant haste listed in it also?

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Old 01/06/09, 6:02 PM   #1629
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Sorting anything by threat in the pop-up item lists in rawr.tankadin inevitably leads to an unhandled error... something about not being able to sort the list?

************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentException: IComparer (or the IComparable methods it relies upon) did not return zero when Array.Sort called x. CompareTo(x). x: 'Furious Deathgrips: (3178O 519M 2258S)'  x's type: 'ComparisonCalculationTankadin' The IComparer: 'System.Array+FunctorComparer`1[Rawr.ComparisonCalculationBase]'.
   at System.Collections.Generic.ArraySortHelper`1.SwapIfGreaterWithItems[TValue](T[] keys, TValue[] values, IComparer`1 comparer, Int32 a, Int32 b)
   at System.Collections.Generic.ArraySortHelper`1.QuickSort[TValue](T[] keys, TValue[] values, Int32 left, Int32 right, IComparer`1 comparer)
   at System.Collections.Generic.ArraySortHelper`1.Sort[TValue](T[] keys, TValue[] values, Int32 index, Int32 length, IComparer`1 comparer)
   at System.Collections.Generic.ArraySortHelper`1.Sort(T[] items, Int32 index, Int32 length, IComparer`1 comparer)
   at System.Array.Sort[T](T[] array, Int32 index, Int32 length, IComparer`1 comparer)
   at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.Sort(Comparison`1 comparison)
   at Rawr.FormItemSelection.set_ItemCalculations(ComparisonCalculationBase[] value)
   at Rawr.FormItemSelection.sortToolStripMenuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1434 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
Rawr
    Assembly Version: 2.1.6.0

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Old 01/06/09, 6:15 PM   #1630
dmacika
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Delete non-listed gemmings

Just downloaded 2.1.6. Delete non-listed gemmings option on the default gem settings doesn't seem to work for me.

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Old 01/06/09, 6:20 PM   #1631
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Thanks, I'll look into both of those... I think I know what both of those problems are.

EDIT:
Just downloaded 2.1.6. Delete non-listed gemmings option on the default gem settings doesn't seem to work for me.
Can you elaborate? What exactly are you trying to do, what parameters are you using, what results are you getting that you don't expect, etc? Note than equipped and available items will not be deleted, if that's what you're seeing.

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Old 01/06/09, 6:48 PM   #1632
dmacika
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Hmmm. Seems to have to do with the character file I copied over from v2.1.5.

If I start fresh and load my character from the armory, it works fine.

If I copy the XML from 2.1.5, open 2.1.6 and load the 2.1.5 xml, then set the gem settings, I see unselected and unequiped gemmings still listed. For instance, I am wearing [Helm of Cheated Fate], but the listings for [Valorous Dreamwalker Headguard] in the Item Comparions contain gems I did not select, such as [Delicate Cardinal Ruby]

Edit: Yes, I know I included my own solution, just use a fresh load from the armory instead of the old xml. I just wanted to described how I came about the issue for comparison.

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Old 01/06/09, 7:00 PM   #1633
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Just noticed this (after running the optimizer, which is always the wrong time to notice things), but most of the items in my cache have no socket bonus (listed as "none"). Updating from both armory and Wowhead do nothing, they have to be manually edited in. I'm assuming it's an issue with the parser, as I did a full reload from armory this morning.


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Old 01/06/09, 7:16 PM   #1634
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Originally Posted by Adoriele View Post
Just noticed this (after running the optimizer, which is always the wrong time to notice things), but most of the items in my cache have no socket bonus (listed as "none"). Updating from both armory and Wowhead do nothing, they have to be manually edited in. I'm assuming it's an issue with the parser, as I did a full reload from armory this morning.
This is a bug in the Armory. Take a look at the US Armory right now, no socket bonuses anywhere. You mentioned you tried updating from Wowhead, but can you please try again? Wowhead's working just fine, and parses just fine for me...? Hopefully Blizz'll fix the Armory soon.

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Old 01/06/09, 7:23 PM   #1635
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Originally Posted by Astrylian View Post
This is a bug in the Armory. Take a look at the US Armory right now, no socket bonuses anywhere. You mentioned you tried updating from Wowhead, but can you please try again? Wowhead's working just fine, and parses just fine for me...? Hopefully Blizz'll fix the Armory soon.
Checked again on a different item and updating from Wowhead worked fine. Now if only I could get a mass update to run properly, and no I still have no idea what's throwing that error I mentioned before. Is there a way for the error message to include which item it was trying to update when it errored out?


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Old 01/06/09, 7:34 PM   #1636
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Yeah, it's Thor'idal. Delete Thori'dal from your itemcache, then do a mass wowhead update.

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Old 01/06/09, 9:03 PM   #1637
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Noticed tonight, in Retribution module is missing the racial bonus, changing human to dwarf to draenei don't change the dps bonus of weapon type.
And the optimizer got problem on discern unique jewel type, it try to make me wear 2xEnchanted Tear, but the unique flag it's set in the Jewel type.

Last edited by gouldukat : 01/06/09 at 9:13 PM. Reason: jewel problem

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Old 01/06/09, 10:41 PM   #1638
Ugljesa
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For bears, it seems that Elixir of Protection (Mixology) is counted as "Armor" and not "Bonus Armor"

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Old 01/06/09, 10:48 PM   #1639
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Thanks, will fix that.

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Old 01/07/09, 2:10 PM   #1640
hypetech
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Looks like at least [Keystone Great-Ring] and [Defender's Code] are still not properly being marked unique, even after a wowhead update on the item.


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Old 01/07/09, 2:48 PM   #1641
Astrylian
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Update those from the armory, uniqueness parsing from Wowhead is broken currently.

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Old 01/07/09, 2:58 PM   #1642
Mordekhuul
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Terenas
I downloaded 2.1.6 last night and configured all of my tankadin gear, but [Libram of Obstruction] wasn't on the list, and any attempt to choose librams seemed to crash Rawr for me. Everything else was smooth and the new blacksmithing socket interface is very nice.

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Old 01/07/09, 3:35 PM   #1643
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Librams are definitely incomplete, but I don't know of any crashing related to that. What did you do to make it crash, and what was the crash log?

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Old 01/07/09, 6:20 PM   #1644
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Originally Posted by Astrylian View Post
Yeah, it's Thor'idal. Delete Thori'dal from your itemcache, then do a mass wowhead update.
Deleted Thori'dal, still have the issue. It's barfing in the low numbers of parses (91st and 340th or so, not a consistent number). To complicate matters, if I then try and update any other item from Wowhead before exiting and reloading Rawr, the same error pops up, but this time the item no longer shows up in my item list. This persists through a reload (corrupted the entry in the cache?).


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Old 01/07/09, 7:03 PM   #1645
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Hmm... Perhaps they changed something again... I'll go through the parsing of every item in the default item cache again tonight, and make sure none of them error.

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Old 01/07/09, 9:50 PM   #1646
 nathanbp
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Aegwynn
[Embrace of the Spider] appears to have incorrect values in the default item cache (has both the average haste rating and the haste rating proc, and maybe the spellpower too?). It appears correct after reloading from Armory or Wowhead.

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Old 01/08/09, 4:24 AM   #1647
spartakos
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In my rawr there are 2 different [Belt of Potent Chanting] and with different value although they seem to have the same stats.


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Old 01/08/09, 10:24 AM   #1648
Mordekhuul
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Originally Posted by spartakos View Post
In my rawr there are 2 different [Belt of Potent Chanting] and with different value although they seem to have the same stats.
Are you using an old version (older than the most recent one posted)?

Before he added blacksmith extra socket handling the extra gem on glove/bracer/belt was put into a new copy of the item as a 2nd (or only) gem in one of the normal gem slots.

So you'd have two of the same item (that looked like they had the same gem) showing in the list when you hover over them, but one would have unnaturally high value. In fact, if you didn't know about this, items you were currently wearing that you had downloaded when you refreshed your character against the armory would be ranked too high, and you wouldn't realize that another few items were really higher value than it.

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Old 01/09/09, 3:24 PM   #1649
Astrylian
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Anyone who uses the latest development version of Rawr by building the source code, check out the new changes to Rawr.RestoSham. Antivyris has been working on it lately, and making great improvements. We'd love to have some feedback on it, calculation-wise, from experienced RestoShams. Thanks!

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Old 01/10/09, 7:24 AM   #1650
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Would it be possible to include Bonus Armor in the Relative Stat Values chart or can I just divide the value of normal armor by the appropriate amount to get the right number? If so, what would the calculation below be correct?

3/3 Thick Hide (+10%), 3/3 Survival of the Fittest (+66%) and Dire Bear Form (+370%)
-> Bonus Armor Value = Armor Value / 5,46

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