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Old 01/10/09, 4:30 PM   #1651
Astrylian
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Those are multiplicative, not additive. So you're looking for Armor / 8.5822. The other multiplier, from the metagem, applies to both, so no need to divide by it.

I'll try to get Bonus Armor in there soon.

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Old 01/12/09, 2:05 AM   #1652
Latas
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Could we get potion of wild magic and potion of haste added, or would those be done per module?

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Old 01/12/09, 4:10 AM   #1653
halmmar
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Originally Posted by Latas View Post
Could we get potion of wild magic and potion of haste added, or would those be done per module?
The problem with those is that they are dependent on fight length, so I guess it would make more sense to put them into the models.

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Old 01/12/09, 1:00 PM   #1654
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On the first page of this post where you list the modules and their completion status could you also list who is the main author of each module?

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Old 01/12/09, 1:07 PM   #1655
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That info is available on our site, at Rawr - Home ... I'll see about adding it to the readme, but it changes semi-often.

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Old 01/12/09, 5:01 PM   #1656
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For the protadin module, it appears as though Blessing of Sanctuary is missing.

Also, for the optimizer, would it be possible to add an option to keep a particular stat above a specified level? (eg. enough defense rating for uncrittable)

An option to choose what seal is being used (10 expertise from Vengeance/Corruption) as well as the ability to glyph and choose a libram would be nice as well.

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Old 01/12/09, 5:04 PM   #1657
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Ermad, can you add Chance to be Crit to the optimizable values Rawr.Tankadin, along with adding support for the stat on Blessing of Sanctuary? (Don't recall what it is called exactly... Stats.DamageTakenMultiplier I think?)

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Old 01/12/09, 5:26 PM   #1658
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If someone is going into the Pally Tank code, can they go into the Rawr.Ret code and change the base miss to 8%? I assume the Tank code needs that change as well.

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Old 01/12/09, 8:20 PM   #1659
Ugljesa
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I might well be blind, but is there info on which version of .NET Framework we should use? I keep getting errors and crashes from random crap and I remember having them before and you replying that I should update my .NET Framework... But after updating it to the latest (or well the latest I could find on Free Software Downloads and Reviews - Download.com where I get my software stuff) I still had the same probs. A link on the side to the newest or minimum required version or whatever would help loads

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Old 01/12/09, 8:44 PM   #1660
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Well, Microsoft doesn't really make that very easy, unfortunately. With most software, higher version numbers indicate a newer/better version of the same thing. With the .NET Framework, the different version numbers are more like different products, that happen to build off of each other, and are bundled together. And to make matters worse, they only seem to apply updates to the latest version.

So, Rawr uses .NET Framework 2.0. That's stated in the readme, and there's a link to download it. However, that version of .NET 2.0 has a bug in it that makes it crash on a few obscure computer configurations. They fixed that, however only included that fix in the version of .NET 2.0 that comes bundled with .NET 3.5. If you ever see a 'Cannot access a disposed object' error, that means you've got that bug, and need to install .NET 3.5, in order to get the fixed version of .NET 2.0.

It's a really screwy situation, I know. Also, you really shouldn't download things directly from those 're-hosting' sites like download.com or versiontracker.com, etc. They aren't regularly updated, necessarily. Instead, just use them to find the software you want, then follow the links to the author/company/whatever that makes that software, and download it from them, to ensure you get the latest version. In this case, search microsoft.com for .NET Framework 3.5.

I'd just tell everyone that Rawr requires .NET Framework 3.5, but 95% of users don't have, and don't need, .NET 3.5.

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Old 01/13/09, 6:26 AM   #1661
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Originally Posted by Astrylian View Post
but 95% of users don't have, and don't need, .NET 3.5.
The same probably applies to .NET 2.0 though. It would be easier for you to just declare 3.5 a requirement to use Rawr, provide a direct link to Microsoft's download site and be done with it. You could also bump Rawr up to 3.5, get the benefit of LINQ or HashSet<T> or something completely different.

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Old 01/13/09, 1:16 PM   #1662
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No, quite the contrary. 95% of users already have .NET 2.0, since they're running either XP (and have applied updates in the last year) or Vista, both of which have .NET automatically.

We have no need for LINQ or HashSet<T>.

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Old 01/13/09, 8:38 PM   #1663
Mijae
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Tried reloading [Effulgent Skyflare Diamond] from both Armory and Wowhead using bear model, but the 2% reduced spell damage does not show up. I assume this should count toward magic survival ratings. It might also be interesting to add a weighting factor for spell damage into the general survival rating.

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Old 01/13/09, 10:14 PM   #1664
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We don't have that stat modeled yet. We'll get that in when we can.

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Old 01/13/09, 11:24 PM   #1665
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Forgot to mention earlier; in the tankadin module, it appears as though Faerie Fire and Scorpid Sting have no effect on your chance to be hit on the stats tab.

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Old 01/14/09, 5:20 AM   #1666
Light4
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multiple Rawr instances?

Is there any way to have multiple Rawr Instances running, i.e. running parallel with two different specs? That would be nice to compare custom specs or play around with single talent points in rather different specs.

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Old 01/14/09, 9:10 AM   #1667
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I realise that this is probably low down on the priority list of things to implement, but having RAWR auto update itself would be neat. I know it notifies on start up that a new version is available, but the option to just hit an "Install" button would be great.

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Old 01/14/09, 11:07 AM   #1668
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Originally Posted by jonny View Post
I realise that this is probably low down on the priority list of things to implement, but having RAWR auto update itself would be neat. I know it notifies on start up that a new version is available, but the option to just hit an "Install" button would be great.
The program continue to edit and manage the XML db file, so or they implement an unique read of them and shared in memory DB and an unique write of them on the last stance closing, or is impossible to do it.
I can say if you just copy in 2-3 different directory all of it you can open a multiple instance of rawr.

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Old 01/14/09, 1:23 PM   #1669
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You can run multiple copies if you duplicate the whole Rawr folder. Each copy needs its own data files.

Auto-updating would be quite a bit of effort, because there's not even an installer right now; it's just a zip. We've toyed with the idea of providing both a zip and an exe installer, so people can choose which way they prefer, but ultimately that's low priority.

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Old 01/15/09, 7:05 AM   #1670
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Well, having several instances Running or making a comparison of 2 gear setups would be nice. I would be satisfied with a possibility of Saving the Stats page for one Set to compare the changes with a new setup.

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Old 01/16/09, 9:37 AM   #1671
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Is there any possibility to ignore the hit/expertise cap to evaluate possible upgrades without changing the entire equipment setup? Or is there a chance that this option will be implemented in a future version of RAWR?

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Old 01/16/09, 10:51 AM   #1672
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Originally Posted by Sadirin View Post
Is there any possibility to ignore the hit/expertise cap to evaluate possible upgrades without changing the entire equipment setup? Or is there a chance that this option will be implemented in a future version of RAWR?
Why would you want that? If the piece puts you over the hit/exp cap, but is still good enough that it doesn't matter, it'll be ranked higher in the gear listing anyway. If you're using the optimizer, well it kind of defeats the purpose to try and find a purposefully non-optimal set.


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Old 01/16/09, 2:31 PM   #1673
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Right click the item in question, and choose "Evaluate Upgrade". (Works like Build Upgrade List, using your last Optimizer settings, for just the one item)

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Old 01/16/09, 6:10 PM   #1674
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Why would you not want LINQ ? Its soo awesome. Also its fully supported by Mono. Now that I've said it, I know it would add tedious extraneous downloads for very few added value from a users perspective.

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Old 01/17/09, 7:55 AM   #1675
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gems

Actually I have a problems with the gems. Rawr is using only the gems I have in my own gear, there are no other gems I can choose under Gems > Normal. I checked the filters already and it seems they arent the problem.

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