Rawr (v2.3.23 released on 9/12) - Page 70

Janster · 08/14/08, 2:09 AM

Greetings, I wonder if there is any way to see how the stat ratings are on RAWR.

In addition, I don't see haste modeled for restoshammys, and atleast in 14.1 I found haste underrated a lot for my mage.

Astrylian · 08/14/08, 3:08 AM

Haste is modeled for RestoShams as of b15.1. Haste is accurately modeled for mages, though you should still upgrade to b15.1 for bugfixes and performance improvements.

Can you clarify what you'd like to know about how Rawr rates gear?

Janster · 08/14/08, 3:20 AM

When you go to statrelative weights in the resto shammy section, it shows mp5,int,+heal etc, but not haste.
Also gear thats rated very highly elsewhere due to haste, is rated poorly with Rawr.

Is there anyway to see how the stat ratings are like on lootrank?
Do the values change depending on the gear value, for example is haste rated more highly in T6 compared to T4.

In advance thanks for an excellent tool.

Astrylian · 08/14/08, 11:28 AM

Rawr doesn't rate stats, or rate gear by giving a value to its stats. Rawr rates gear by the effect that item has on your character. The difference in total rating between the character with that item equipped, and the character with that slot empty, is the value of that item. If you're not seeing a value of haste, it's probably because you're going OOM with the current fight parameters. Make sure you have everything fully filled out (items, enchants, buffs), and adjust the fight options to the correct duration that you want to compare for, probably downrank some, and then look.

I'll see about adding haste to the Relative Stat Values chart for the next version.

Janster · 08/14/08, 12:37 PM

Thank you, I usually use vanilla non buffed stats for my ratings, I see that this might have been a mistake now.

Thanks again for hasty reply.

RareBeast · 08/15/08, 11:00 PM

Hi. I've been makin heavy use of the optimiser in Rawr and find it excellent, particularly in working out the best way to hit crit immunity with the gear I have.

My problem now is that I wish to use my Vengeful Helm for both tanking and DPS, with the DPS enchant, RED & Agi gem. I have worked out how to specify the enchant, and have deleted all other gem combos for that item, but when I run the optimiser (whether or not I tick "Override Regem) it always uses the Veng Helm with the stam gem & meta and creates the new gemming in the item list (the enchant is the correct DPS one though).

Is there an easy way to force it to use the gemming I want for the helm?

Astrylian · 08/15/08, 11:15 PM

There certainly is. Click on the green diamond next to that item in the chart, then ctrl-click it to mark just that specific gemming available only, with a blue diamond. You can also right click on the diamond to specify a specific enchant as well.

RareBeast · 08/15/08, 11:56 PM

OK. Really confused now. I have deleted all duplicates so only the gemming I want is there. I have control-clicked on the item to make the diamond blue, and right clicked to specify the enchant I want.

So the item has a blue diamond with a red dot next to it. I use the optimiser (with or without the options ticked) and every time I end up with the wrong gems. Is this a bug or am I still doing something wrong?

Astrylian · 08/16/08, 1:31 AM

No, don't delete the gemmings you don't want, actually unmark it, then mark it blue. You've currently it universally available (green), and then also marked that specific gemming/enchant available as well (blue). Unmark it completely, then just mark it blue, and set the enchant.

Zedd · 08/16/08, 8:05 PM

Could we get an option for "Infinite Mana" or something so that we can build a max DPS / HPS set more easely?

We can tinker combat time and shadowpriest regen offcourse but It doesnt seem to cut it.

Driane · 08/16/08, 10:32 PM

I think Rawr.bear has some equations off for actual defense and defense rating. I found that rawr is telling me I am crit immune with a gear set, but then I equip it in-game and run my macros / mods to calc it and I am crittable.

Could you double check the defense enchants for chest and wrists, as well as the resilience to chest?

Astrylian · 08/16/08, 10:55 PM

No, those are correct. There's no problem there. Most likely, your in-game macro is rounding wrong, if you're very close to the uncrittability mark, or you have some enchants/items/buffs set wrong in Rawr.

Driane · 08/17/08, 1:53 AM

I feel retarded now, I forgot I had the Flask of Fortification checked >_<

• Adoriele · 08/19/08, 1:48 PM

Originally Posted by Astrylian

Can you post a character file that it doesn't find the optimal gear commonly, in an Issue on our Rawr - Home site? There's alot of tweaking we can do, so we can probably make it smarter about these situation.

Finally got around to uploading this file (pending my account on CP being activated). Details:
The attached character .xml has been run through the optimizer, this is the result, showing 1573.78 RawDPS (which is the value I'm optimizing by). By switching the gem in the blue socket in the boots to a Glowing Nightseye, thus activating the meta without needing the Staff, I can equip the Badge dagger and jump to 1597.43 RDPS, a far-from-trivial jump.

Astrylian · 08/19/08, 2:12 PM

Thanks very much, we'll take a look.