Rawr (v2.3.23 released on 9/12) - Page 74

cbags · 09/09/08, 10:51 AM

Thanks, I knew someone could steer me in the right direction.

pr0nny · 09/09/08, 11:48 AM

This may have been addressed, but as a Fire Mage, why does it recommend that I gem for Intellect?

• Wizeowel · 09/09/08, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by pr0nny

This may have been addressed, but as a Fire Mage, why does it recommend that I gem for Intellect?

Rawr takes into account the fight length and whether you chose molten/mage armor, your raid buffs, and you can select consumable usage (elixirs/pots/gems). So if Rawr calculates you will go OOM before the end of the fight, it'll suggest solutions for this, one of which is gemming for a larger mana pool.

Double check all the options you've selected. Maybe you accidentally typed in that the fight is 10 mins long? Or you unchecked pot/gem usage or something?

pr0nny · 09/09/08, 3:44 PM

I was mainly using default settings. I'll play around with it some more and see if I can tweak it. Thank you.

Kavan · 09/09/08, 3:53 PM

Originally Posted by pr0nny

I was mainly using default settings. I'll play around with it some more and see if I can tweak it. Thank you.

If you played with defaults then you're most likely missing buffs. Go to buffs tab and check everything that applies.

pr0nny · 09/09/08, 4:00 PM

Originally Posted by Kavan

If you played with defaults then you're most likely missing buffs. Go to buffs tab and check everything that applies.

Yeah, it seems to be working a lot better now. Sorry about that. Thanks guys.

dblaikie · 09/10/08, 2:28 PM

Originally Posted by Kavan

Good news, visualization of sequence reconstruction will be available in b16.1.

Now all we need is a good combat log based visualization to match - so we can compare actual performance with theoretical performance.

WoWWCardioRaid does an ok job, but could be better for focusing on the relevant things (eg: Show me scorch uptime, when I use my cooldowns, what the average delay between casts is, etc)

This isn't really a request for Rawr, nor do I believe it's a "worthless" comment (in case someone wants to mod it away) - but perhaps other people in this forum have similar ideas about visualization of both theoretical and actual results.

Boevis · 09/12/08, 1:59 PM

One thing I haven't seen is what does "Innervate Delay" and Mana Potion Delay" mean? Does a value of 1 mean 1 minute or does it mean you do it every cooldown with a value of 2 meaning every other cooldown?

thedopefishlives · 09/12/08, 2:17 PM

Originally Posted by Boevis

One thing I haven't seen is what does "Innervate Delay" and Mana Potion Delay" mean? Does a value of 1 mean 1 minute or does it mean you do it every cooldown with a value of 2 meaning every other cooldown?

"Innervate Delay" and "Mana Potion Delay" are terms I borrowed from Efejel's original spreadsheet. Basically, it means that the abilities are used on cooldown, but that there is a delay between the start of the fight and the first time you pop it. This affects how many get used over the course of the fight.

Astrylian · 09/15/08, 9:29 PM

Rawr Beta 16.1 posted!

DOWNLOAD: Rawr b16.1

This beta contains one new model, Rawr.Rogue! Let us know how it works. Additionally, this is expected to be our last version of Rawr aimed at WoW 2.x; all future Rawr development will focus on WoW 3.0, and WotLK. If you have any suggestions/requests for features/fixes in the new version of Rawr, now is the time to let us know! Post on our development site, Rawr - Home.

Beta 16.1:
- The beginnings of user-controlled item filtering is in. Let me stress that this is just the beginning. Currently it's hidden away in a menu item (Tools>Refine Relevant Items...), and only supports the most basic filtering by item type (Leather vs Mail, Maces vs Swords, etc.). In the future, we expect to expand upon this greatly, by allowing all kinds of filters (such as by source, by item level, etc), and will be making the UI to control this more intuitive. Please post on our development site, let us know what sort of filters you'd like to be able to create
- More improvements to the performance and accuracy of the Optimizer
- The Add Item dialog now accepts whole links to wowhead or thottbot
- Added Flame Armor Kits, Arcane Armor Kits, and Lesser Arcanums of Resilience to the default enchant list
- Rawr.Mage:
- - New custom chart to visualize sequence reconstruction
- - Couple fixes for sequence reconstruction, especially around handling threat
- Rawr.ProtWarr
- - Blessing of Kings now correctly affects Agility

angayelle · 09/16/08, 10:21 AM

I've just downloaded 16.1 and it's simply excellent, the visualisation tool is wondefrul, i now have an exact feeling of the fight with all cd and mana usage.

Great job, kavan and astrylian !

Just a suggestion, it would be completely awesome if there's some tooltip when you mouse hover the graphics about the cycle used and the cooldown in use. But it's still so great now, i'll go back to it.

angayelle · 09/17/08, 4:46 AM

After extensive testing of the visualisation module for mage i found a strange thing with the 2 48 11 fire spec :

http://www.filesavr.com/angayelle024811 xml file

1-heroism start just before 3:45 which seems very early
2-around 4:30 and before 5:15 mana is completely empty but the dps stay quite high

for comparaison the 40 0 21 spec seems quite ok excepting again the early heroism.

http://www.filesavr.com/angayelle400021 xml file

Astrylian · 09/17/08, 4:54 AM

Because I'm sure Kavan'll ask, can you post the character file?

angayelle · 09/17/08, 5:18 AM

Found it, the drums of battle setting is responsible of the bug, by switching off the visualisation become much more logical for fire.

but the arcane spec still show heroism at 3:45...

Munorion · 09/17/08, 7:35 AM

The tankadin module still doesn't calculate crittability correctly (not surprising, since there haven't been any changes to it since the initial release, I think?). It warns you about being crittable as long as you are below 505 defense - which is neither correct now (Anticipation gives you 20 defense), nor will it be correct next patch.