Is there anyway you can lock item properties in the item editor?

The reason I'm asking is because sometimes when I go into the item editor to create new pieces of armor with different gems (If there's a better way to change gems in a piece of gear, please tell me) sometimes the socket bonus goes away when I play around with it (Like just clicking on different items removes the socket bonus)

Feature Request: Gem Optimizer

Suppose I have my two blue gems in a crappy belt to activate my RED. Rather than only listing belt upgrades that have two gem slots and using Blue/Blue in the slots, can Rawr more intelligently suggest gem changes? IE: Regem my shoulder to purple/purple and now belts X, Y, and Z are now upgrades to the crappy one currently equipped?

I suppose, in theory, it'd be possible to make the gems work sort of the way gear does right now, where upgrades could be calculated based on the calculated stats, with the optional constraint to force usage of the meta gem if one is present. I might take a look at it later, as part of my continuing work in the Moonkin module.

You could see if one gem selection is better than another by creating multiple versions of the item with different gem setups.

Personally I love Rawr on my Druid and look forward to seeing what comes out of these projects. Which got me thinking about how you could get around the problems you face particularly with Enhancement Shaman which can't be easily modelled. How about you use the EP values that you would get out of Yo!'s Simulator. There could be a few standard sets for people who have no idea what that simulator is or aren't inclined to visit. And you could also give people the option to input their own values. The effect would be the same as running out a list from Lootzor or Thottbot, but give people the additional functionality of seeing how that peice of gear effects their stats when it is equipped with your other current gear. Having chosen a few upgrades you can then go back and plug your new numbers into Yo's Simulator and see how much you have actually improved your dps.

To a certain extent a function like this could allow you to create versions of Rawr you know very little about, or are hard to provide a proper model for. For instance I would never expect someone to come up with a model on how I cast with my priest - there are too many variables. Priests have 10 healing spells and depending on where you are at in progression it will reflect in your healing style. I know someone who still flash heal spams, whereas I downrank heavily, CoH spam when I have it, throw out a lot of PoM's and Renews if I'm moving around - that sort of thing. But even then it would be nice to have something allow me to see what sort of effect a new peice of gear is going to have on my stats. Being able to give certain stats a weighting could let me see quickly whether it is a good upgrade or not. If I was then also able to put in some minimums or maximums as well so that I can't go so crazy on +healing that I forget about things like stam. For instance >6k hp and stam gets a value of 2, 6k-7k stam gets a value of .2, <7k 0. The end result would be far more useful than any Thottbot or Lootzor list could ever be - and it can all be done in a realitively offline environment!

I still cannot get anything to happen when I try to load my character (Kunjana, US, Medivh) from Armory. This is with a fresh install of Rawr b11 on a completely different computer that never had it installed before. It keeps saying it's getting no response to its query for Armory data.

You're missing the point of my suggestion. I would like Rawr to advise me that regemming my shoulders to intentionally miss a socket bonus and gemming my belt to hit a socket bonus would be more effective than getting the shoulder's bonus and missing the belt's bonus (particularly for activating metagems).


The whole purpose of Rawr is that it doesn't use an 'Equivilency Points' system. Such a system is effective for only a single point change to your stats. +1 agi (or any other stat) then needs a re-evaluation to determine how each stat relates to the other stats.

Welcome to Enhancement Shaman, where you cannot do that. The only way we've found (so far) to correctly model things is to use a simulator.

Is there a 2.4 version of the itemcache with a more complete set of caster gems and drops available ?

Rawr.Mage b2 now has new gems and most new epic drops.

Shalas is at least researching closed-form modeling, as seen on the previous page of the thread. You may very soon be able to do that.

While a Rawr.Lootzor-ish thing is probably possible, even with a button to run a simulator and auto-set your EPs, it just reduces Rawr to something you get with 2 web pages.

That's actually what shalas was beginning to look at if you go back a few pages.