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Old 05/16/09, 5:38 AM   #2151
Kris
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I can't load characters from armory which have TBC items equipped. Examples: [Tome of the Lightbringer] or [Commendation of Kael'thas]. Using 2.2.4.
Update: Just tried to load a char with [Badge of the Infiltrator] - same result.

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Old 05/16/09, 7:23 AM   #2152
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I noticed that the lastest versions of rawr already has the 15% proc rate of balance druid T8 4 set bonus implemented, however I assume it doesn't model the bug the bonus is suffering from (quite obvious since it will eventually get fixed ... I hope ). But for now I can't really use rawr to optimize within my current gear since it always forces me into wearing 4xT8. Is it possible to turn off the set bonus manually for the purpose of optimizing until the bug gets fixed?

P.S. I really hope this wasn't asked before ... I just couldn't find it. If it was I'll just delete this post.

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Old 05/16/09, 8:28 AM   #2153
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You are Balance, so I'm assuming its the Instant Ion Cannon you are referring to. For a quick temporary fix, Close Rawr, go into the Folder you installed Rawr, enter the Data subfolder, find a filer called BuffCache.xml, open it with a text editor, search for "Nightsong Garb 4 Piece Bonus" (omit the ""'s). Set the "<Chance>0.15</Chance>" to "<Chance>0.0</Chance>", and a bit lower down, change "<IsCustom>false</IsCustom>" to "<IsCustom>true</IsCustom>". Then save and load Rawr. Atleast that worked fine when I tested it here.

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Old 05/16/09, 12:22 PM   #2154
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Originally Posted by Astrylian View Post
Err... What? You responded to my explanation of why that wouldn't work. Again, the filters could only remove things, not add them, that were built with the upgrade list. It would make no sense to users if they could only hide items using filters, not unhide them.
I know that if you didn't calculate them in advance you couldn't unhide them, but if you create a master upgrade list then hiding/unhiding works just fine. Yes, it's true that if you build an upgrade list from a narrow range of items and then after the list is made try to broaden the range that won't work....but I think the feature is still very useful despite that limitation, which is a bit of an edge case imo. The concept the you're filtering only from the list you've already created isn't that difficult to understand, as that idea is pretty clearly conveyed by having to run an optimizer to get the initial results in the first place.

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Old 05/16/09, 1:49 PM   #2155
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Originally Posted by Kris View Post
I can't load characters from armory which have TBC items equipped. Examples: [Tome of the Lightbringer] or [Commendation of Kael'thas]. Using 2.2.4.
Update: Just tried to load a char with [Badge of the Infiltrator] - same result.
I believe it still tries to load items from US armory, which is down at the moment.

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Old 05/16/09, 7:02 PM   #2156
Mijae
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I'm a bit confused that some items are actually showing up having negative value (as much as -70 dps compared to not using any item). My only guess is that it somehow updates stats in a way that changes the optimal cycle to a less optimal one. However, I don't see the cycle changing. This occurs in a number of cases, but I'll mail a specific profile.

I generally wouldn't care since these are items at the bottom of the list, but it changes the overall scale of the bars and shifts them all to the right.


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Old 05/16/09, 9:14 PM   #2157
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I'm seeing one negative-value item, and it's a fishing pole. In that case I expect Rawr is setting my base dps to the fishing pole's 5.0 instead of the real minimum dps.

It's also weird that it's showing up at all, because its type is 'none' rather than any real weapon type.

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Old 05/16/09, 10:20 PM   #2158
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I probably need to add a check in weapons for ferals, that if it's under the DPS which you start getting FAP from DPS, it doesn't translate to negative FAP.

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Old 05/17/09, 12:29 AM   #2159
Mijae
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I am seeing this for trinkets ([Figurine - Twilight Serpent]) and 4 rings ([Ring of Northern Tears] lowest) as well. It is not specific to weapons. These negative values appear to only occur with certain gear combinations.

Edit: Just noticed another very strange case. It is showing [Figurine - Monarch Crab] is worth 43.0 with 2x16 agi gems, but worth -108.59 with 2x27 agi gems. I'm also seeing values jumpimg around when I toggle "Enforce Gem Requirements" on and off, but between different values (not just back and forth between 2 values). It's also showing different results when I sort Alphabetical instead of Overall.

In all cases it looks like it is items with JC gems that are showing negative (with 3 already being used). So, I think I found the problem. When you equip more than 3 JC gems, all the gems become invalid. This means by equipping that item it is actually making other items worse. If the base stats of the item are worth less than the value of the other 3 gems, the item will be negative.

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Old 05/17/09, 1:19 AM   #2160
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Ahhh, yeah. I'll see about fixing that.

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Old 05/18/09, 6:43 PM   #2161
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Originally Posted by Astrylian View Post
I probably need to add a check in weapons for ferals, that if it's under the DPS which you start getting FAP from DPS, it doesn't translate to negative FAP.
Actually, it happened on my ProtWarr character somewhere back in v2.2.2 or so, as well. I noticed that the "0" (bar origin) was not fully left, but rather somewhere in the middle. Checked the bottom of the list, and sure enough, a "weapon" (fishing pole) happened to be assigned a negative value. Just deleted it, and went about my merry.

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Old 05/19/09, 5:36 AM   #2162
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What's the deal with Incisor Fragment? I'm seeing a scarily high value for it (2nd best in slot for 2nd trinket after Mjolnir Runestone, first trinket being Grim Toll). It's showing up just as good as Wrathstone, a bit better in fact, and beating Greatness silly.

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Old 05/19/09, 5:42 AM   #2163
Latas
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Originally Posted by Ugljesa View Post
What's the deal with Incisor Fragment? I'm seeing a scarily high value for it (2nd best in slot for 2nd trinket after Mjolnir Runestone, first trinket being Grim Toll). It's showing up just as good as Wrathstone, a bit better in fact, and beating Greatness silly.
My guess is your hit is taken care of and your crit is at a breakpoint, such that given the attack power on it and the on use armor pen proc it makes it one of the more valuable trinkets. Scary but rational...kinda.

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Old 05/19/09, 5:46 AM   #2164
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Originally Posted by Ugljesa View Post
What's the deal with Incisor Fragment? I'm seeing a scarily high value for it (2nd best in slot for 2nd trinket after Mjolnir Runestone, first trinket being Grim Toll). It's showing up just as good as Wrathstone, a bit better in fact, and beating Greatness silly.
Mind letting people know what module you're working in? It really comes down to... it depends.

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Old 05/19/09, 6:51 AM   #2165
Latas
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Originally Posted by BWarner View Post
Mind letting people know what module you're working in? It really comes down to... it depends.
For the record, I was guessing kitty.

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Old 05/19/09, 7:56 AM   #2166
Ugljesa
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Doh, sorry, yeah I was talking about the kitty module. Crit does seem to be at a breakpoint (as Astrylian has explained a page or few back, it's why it's suggesting to use Strength gems), but still feels "hmmm" for it to be a top action trinket, thought I'd check

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Old 05/20/09, 1:16 PM   #2167
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Originally Posted by BWarner View Post
Actually, it happened on my ProtWarr character somewhere back in v2.2.2 or so, as well. I noticed that the "0" (bar origin) was not fully left, but rather somewhere in the middle. Checked the bottom of the list, and sure enough, a "weapon" (fishing pole) happened to be assigned a negative value. Just deleted it, and went about my merry.
Yeah, I noticed that recently myself. I'll be adding that item to an exclude list for ProtWarr, unless it's just removed globally. (Which might be a good idea if it's screwing up a lot of module reports, and doesn't offer much particular value.)

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Old 05/20/09, 1:58 PM   #2168
Latas
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According to someone in the combat ratings thread the 100% armor penetration cap is already in.

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Old 05/22/09, 6:59 AM   #2169
bamina
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Often when someone applies for our guild we want to have quick armory import and check him/her with rawr.
The "load from armory" dialog has 3 inputboxes for charname, realm & region.
I'd like to see a 4th field where you can paste armorylinks like

I thought about something similar for talent-specs.
Instead of typing them yourselfs you could import them from the blizzard-talent-calculator. mmochampion & wowhead.
Many people copy their spec from others anyway

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Old 05/22/09, 1:03 PM   #2170
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Actually it used to be able to do that. There had to be a reason it doesn't do it anymore.


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Old 05/22/09, 2:21 PM   #2171
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In the next major content patch we will be removing the prismatic quality of the jewelcrafter-only Dragon’s Eye gems. Like other gems, they will have to match the socket color to receive a socket bonus.

So JC gems will be colorless in 3.2, so that may mess with Rawr's gemming system.

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Old 05/22/09, 2:33 PM   #2172
Astrylian
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Err, no, they won't be colorless, they'll just be single color, not prismatic.

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Old 05/23/09, 5:47 PM   #2173
Mijae
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Originally Posted by Astrylian View Post
Err, no, they won't be colorless, they'll just be single color, not prismatic.
How is the uniqueness of these gems implemented in Rawr? I tried changing them from prismatic to single colors and Rawr won't let me use more than one now. Is the Unique (3) somehow tied to them being prismatic?


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Old 05/24/09, 5:24 PM   #2174
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I believe it's tied to then having "Dragon's Eye" in their name. Whatever the case, we'll make sure it's working properly when we get to that point.

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Old 05/24/09, 5:25 PM   #2175
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Download - Rawr - Release: Rawr 2.2.5

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Recent Changes:
v2.2.5.0
- Not all models are completely ready for final release. Specifically in some models the trinket effects might be missing. If that is the case please manually edit the items and give them average stats until we make everything work. We have decided that even not being completely ready we should make a release so that you can work with all
the 3.1 modeling changes.
- Capped ArPen from Rating at 100%
- Improvements to the Wowhead parser, especially around Sigils
- Improvements to the Optimizer's handling of gems
- Enhanced filtering! You can now have subfilters to filters, and there are now default filters for Ulduar gear, broken down by raid size, difficulty, and boss.
- There's a new Optimizer Results dialog. It's still a bit buggy at the moment, but we intend to improve it substantially as we get time. Please give us feedback on this new feature!
- Rawr.Rogue: Further work on rogue support, but this model is still largely incomplete
- Rawr.Mage: Better frost cycle handling
- Rawr.DPSDK: Massive improvements to logic, across the board
- Rawr.DPSWarr: Fix for agility miscalculation, better proc handling, better arms/fury rotation handling
- Rawr.Enhance: Minor calculation improvements
- Rawr.Moonkin: Fix for some proc handling
- Rawr.HolyPriest: Calculation tweaks
- Rawr.ShadowPriest: Improved haste calculations, and proc calculations
- Rawr.Hunter: Starting to get up to date! Still largely incomplete, but progress is being made!
- Rawr.Tree: Improved rotations, set bonuses.

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