I just downloaded Rawr v2.1.2 again and remade my character from scratch, damn you armory for being down! And _again_ I'm seeing aged winter cloak far ahead. 219.98 dps vs 173.56 for Drape of the Deadly Foe.

I ran "Update item cache" and "Reload known wotlk items from wowhead", which took ages btw and the problem still persisted. I then tried right clicking and "Refresh item data from wowhead" and then finally, what did work, was right clicking and "refresh item data from armory" and it snapped into place where it belongs, I hope, right after Cloak of Mastery.

Now the funny thing is, if I update it from wowhead again it hops back into first place and back down when I update from armory. Nothing even changes with the tooltip. Strange and somewhat disturbing.

I just found another item that shows the same problem. Depraved Linked Belt

There certainly is. See the default gemming feature in the Tools menu.

I spoke with Zurm and he told me that he is working on the ret model for rawr. Its just taking some time because of his own work/raiding schedule. It will be done though in the near future.

It seems that items can exist in two different versions in Rawr, all depending where you load them from. This doesn't go for all items, I can't see a pattern in this behavior though. The difference is quite huge sometimes as I described in my earlier post regarding the two capes, but it all seems to depend on where the items are updated from.

Another example is Blue Aspect Helm, it goes from 335,27 dps to 208 point something. So WoWHead gives the more optimistic assessment while Armory gives the worse one. Funny thing is, if you chose "Load Possible Upgrades from Armory" it will revert back to the suggestion given by WoW Head.

Something definitely indicates that the "Refresh Item Data from Armory" is outright bugged.

And an entirely seperate thing - What does it mean when the optimizer says "You have not selected any "Gems" and "Metagems" ? I have specifically told Rawr what gems I want in my equipment, or what two allowed set of gems to be specific.

Edit: Nevermind the last part. I thought it was enough that I had specified gemming options in the "Set Default Gems for Equipment", that's not so it seems. Something related to that btw, it would be incredibly nice if Rawr would save these settings between sessions - perhaps based on model used?

Since I updated to v2.1.2, I do see some strange values (when using the retribution model; didn't test others).

I think a screenshot describes it best: ImageShack - Image Hosting :: rawr212ec3.png

Switched back to v2.1.1 now, and I don't see this happening there.

Apart from that I have to say, that I really love using this program... and would be quiet lost sometimes without it. So please keep up the great work.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Armory changed their format for Attack Power or something, so the armory import loses AP. What are you asking be saved between launches that isn't?

Malan, it was probably almost done. As the little messagebox before it start says, it takes about 15min, and that's on a good machine. On a crappy laptop, I could see it taking 20+min.

FYI, on a fairly powerful machine this process took just over an hour and a half for me yesterday. I assume wowhead was just getting pounded at the time, but the progress bar mentioned in the message box would be really nice.

(I just let it finish while I played on another machine, but I have to imagine most people would have killed it after it took an hour, vs. 15 minutes)

I'm not sure what you mean by 'save the default gemmings between sessions.' The default gemming tool sets the gems you choose in all relevant items in the itemcache. As long as you don't end task Rawr or something, it'll save the ItemCache between sessions. You should only use the default gemming tool once. If you want multiple gem schemes, note that it does allow you to make multiples at once.

Yes, it saves in the gear itself - but there are sometimes when Rawr overwrites these for whatever reason and then you have to redo it all over again. Happened to me a few times today while using the update tools.

IIRC DPSDK only has the option of comparing against 70-73 bosses not 80-83, similar to the Ret bug.

I'm not sure if this is the enhancement shaman module or just rawr in general, but the armor values in the Options tab only allow you to set armor as high as 9000, and from what I understand the WotLK bosses are over 10k armor.