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Old 12/01/08, 8:41 AM   #1381
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Originally Posted by Malan View Post
I'm not sure if this is the enhancement shaman module or just rawr in general, but the armor values in the Options tab only allow you to set armor as high as 9000, and from what I understand the WotLK bosses are over 10k armor.

You mean they have over nine thousand?!

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* Being able to force a set bonus in the optimizer. That is, if I choose all the pieces of a tier set, and all the pieces of similar offset, I want to be able to say 'make me the most optimal set, whilst maintaining 2pc (or 4pc?), even if those pieces are crap'
* Is there any chance at all of having it usuable on non-level cap characters?
* I'm not really sure what causes it, but my PC often goes into a 'loadfreeze' when trying to edit an item. It's happened accross most Rawr versions, and on my old PC and now my new.

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Old 12/01/08, 10:12 AM   #1382
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Originally Posted by manapaws View Post
You mean they have over nine thousand?!
... yes? I clearly indicated that the bosses have 10k+ armor, what are you not understanding?

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Old 12/01/08, 10:47 AM   #1383
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Over 9000 is an internet meme. He was referencing that.

IIRC the Ret and DPSDK have similar bugs because they are both developed by the same person (just throwing that out there)

And a question: Is the item editor absurdly slow for anyone else or is it just me and my machine?

And a request: On the item editor, if it is absurdly slow for everyone, is there any way to make the item search not search as you type and instead have a button you have to manually hit to make it search? That might speed it up a bit ...

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Old 12/01/08, 12:50 PM   #1384
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Originally Posted by Adoriele View Post
To get it into the dbase, you need to add it as a new item in the item editor. Update all just re-grabs all of the information for the items currently in the dbase.

Edit: Also, I know that the Moonkin model won't show an item unless it has at least one relevant stat. If the IotDS has no stats, as above, it may just not be showing up. You'd need to edit it.
To elaborate slightly on this: In Rawr.Moonkin, as I believe is the case with Rawr.Mage, most trinkets are handled by calculating the effective worth of the proc for each cast cycle being calculated. It's not trivial to add a new trinket, but I wouldn't say it's terribly difficult, either; all I really need are the proc rate (PPM, % chance on hit) and internal cooldown. The fact remains that trinket calculations in Rawr.Moonkin will probably be lagging behind a bit until all the data are properly fleshed out. All that to say this: If a trinket's proc hasn't been calculated yet, it won't show up as having any stats, and so won't show up on the Upgrades list. Version 2.1.2 has some of the basic blue/purple trinkets, but it's not comprehensive by any means.

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Old 12/01/08, 1:38 PM   #1385
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Yes, the item editor is absurdly slow. Specifically, loading lots of items into the listview on the left is absurdly slow. So that means that just opening the item editor takes forever, and so does messing with the filter. However, if you right click on an item and choose edit, it starts out filtered to just that item, so it's nice and fast, so use that if you just want to edit specific items. Obviously, redesigning the item editor to be fast is near the top of my TODO list, aiming for 2.2 for that.

Zurm just checked in a round of changes to the Ret model, and said he would be making similar fixes to DPSDK soon. I'll try to get a new version of Rawr out within the next day or two, for the Ret changes.

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Old 12/01/08, 1:59 PM   #1386
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For the item editor - would it help to purge all TBC items from the list? Or do people still find Sunwell stuff usefull at 80? If that's the case then they can still load in the items I guess.

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Old 12/01/08, 2:15 PM   #1387
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Working with item filters I discovered that Wowhead seems to be returning location values of "Heroic Naxxramaxx" which of course breaks anything you're trying to filter using the proper spelling.

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Old 12/01/08, 4:49 PM   #1388
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Has anyone else noticed that when using Valorous Dreamwalker Headguard, and Valorous Dreamwalker Handgrips for Cat Model, Rawr does not recognize the 2 piece set bonus? Under current buffs, or under the buffs tab the set bonus is not checked off. Is anyone else seeing this?

i tried changing models to bear, and the buff did not show up under that model either.

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Old 12/01/08, 5:14 PM   #1389
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Would it possible to have the drop/purchase/whatever location of the item visible in the right hand panel without having to mouse over it? Maybe a toggled option?

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Old 12/01/08, 5:17 PM   #1390
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Vantage, try refreshing data from Wowhead on just those items, then unequipping and reequipping them. You may have Armory data, which doesn't have the set data correct.

Malan, not a bad idea, may do that at some point.

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Old 12/01/08, 5:27 PM   #1391
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Thank you, had to change pieces in those slots and refresh the item from wowhead, then re-equip them. i tried with the items equipped and it didn't work.




PS. while working through Rawr.Cat it seems that the Grim Troll Trinket even when selected in either location still shows up as a upgrade. the same holds true for the Surge Needle Ring. i have updated the items from wowhead and reloaded them etc, and they still show up as a upgrade even when selected in a slot.

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Old 12/01/08, 6:01 PM   #1392
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I'm not sure what you mean about Grim Toll and Surge Needle Ring. Do you mean that they shouldn't show up in the chart for the second slot if they're already in the first? The Optimizer respects uniqueness, but beyond that, it's up to you to explore the options.

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Old 12/01/08, 6:04 PM   #1393
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Originally Posted by Astrylian View Post
I'm not sure what you mean about Grim Toll and Surge Needle Ring. Do you mean that they shouldn't show up in the chart for the second slot if they're already in the first? The Optimizer respects uniqueness, but beyond that, it's up to you to explore the options.
correct, they're selected in one of the two slots respectively yet they are still showing up as options as an upgrade. under direct upgrade's.

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Old 12/01/08, 8:39 PM   #1394
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Ahhhhh the direct upgrades chart. Ok, good point, will look into fixing that, thanks.

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Old 12/01/08, 9:28 PM   #1395
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€ Beaten to it, should really update the page before sending the posting..

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