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Old 09/23/09, 1:32 PM   #2451
kalbear
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Tauren Druid
 
Balnazzar
You can add it yourself with a temporary buff to the buffcache. It's easy enough; if you want the specific xml message me privately.

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Old 09/23/09, 2:10 PM   #2452
Capstone
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Human Paladin
 
Lightbringer
Ardent Defender reduces the amount of all damage that would take you below 35% health by 20%, thus effectively increasing stam's contribution to EH by a fair amount (and in turn making stam into a mitigation stat, interestingly enough). It's a crucial part of the equation for survival and mitigation both, but unfortunately I'm not enough of a math or programming whiz to be able to model it myself.

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Old 09/23/09, 3:07 PM   #2453
Oiysters
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Tauren Druid
 
Kel'Thuzad
RAWR Bear

Using the T9 Raids, 25, Heroic settings in the options tab RAWR is optimizing me to a fully raid buffed health pool of only 52k. Am I understanding correctly that the optimizer assumes that 100% of incoming damage is physical?

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Old 09/23/09, 3:20 PM   #2454
Astrylian
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Yes. You're welcome to bump the soft cap settings up, if you need more survivability.

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Old 09/24/09, 4:57 AM   #2455
Cluey
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Originally Posted by Astrylian View Post
Recent Changes:
v2.2.19.0
- Those were not the filters that you were looking for. v2.2.18 accidentally included some horrible inbreed of a filters file, not the one it was supposed to have. Now it has the one it's supposed to have.
I was wondering why the last version was showing me rare gems instead of epic so I grabbed this only to find the default for at least cat and bear is still rare.
I can add the epic ones I want but it never seems to save the ones I set so how do I make it epics by default?

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Old 09/24/09, 1:27 PM   #2456
Astrylian
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Gemming Templates are in the GemmingTemplates.xml file; you can transfer that between versions if you like. Yeah, I need to update the default ones for Cat/Bear to be epic.

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Old 09/24/09, 5:30 PM   #2457
Zly
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Tauren Druid
 
Bloodhoof
Originally Posted by Cluey View Post
I was wondering why the last version was showing me rare gems instead of epic so I grabbed this only to find the default for at least cat and bear is still rare.
I can add the epic ones I want but it never seems to save the ones I set so how do I make it epics by default?
I think what your looking for is Tools->Gemming Templates, put a check mark in epic

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Old 09/30/09, 9:48 AM   #2458
Biruta
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Gnome Warlock
 
Warsong
Rawr (v2.2.19) is showing me that Discerning Eye of the Beast is the BIS for me as destruction warlock. Is it true or somekind of bug??
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Old 09/30/09, 9:58 AM   #2459
Negoveio
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Tauren Druid
 
Gurubashi
It's a wowhead bug, rawr is fine. On wowhead it shows 418 Spellpower for this trinket, while ingame it is 75(Not sure).
It's happening with all Heirloom items, on my bear model I got 2000+ armor on a leather heirloom item.
Right clicking on the item and refreshing it's data using wowarmory should fix it.

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Old 09/30/09, 12:47 PM   #2460
Biruta
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Gnome Warlock
 
Warsong
rawr can't find Boots of the Icy Floe. Is there anyway to insert into rawr database? How can I do it?

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Old 09/30/09, 1:13 PM   #2461
Astrylian
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A) Tools > Edit Items > Add
B) It's probably already there. Check the ALL filter, to see if you have it filtered out.

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Old 09/30/09, 5:53 PM   #2462
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Draka
Something's up with rawr

I'm pretty sure there's something fishy going on with Rawr. Last night I finally got a long-overdue weapon upgrade (which put me horribly over hit cap), so I decided to fool around in Rawr/SEIC to help decide between glyphs (again). I typically look at Rawr's relative stat values to give me an idea of where I'm at for valuing haste vs. SP, but I found something pretty weird.

With Rawr's top 3 listed glyphs for my gear (LB, Lava, ToW) here are the relative stat values.


Same 3 glyphs, but using SEIC:

(note that the CL after LvB or the no CL rotations have crit being worth even less relative to haste)

The odd thing is that if I use the glyphs SEIC suggests in Rawr (FS, Lava, LB), then haste pops back up above crit (though not by much - haste = 2.54 DEP, crit = 2.19 DEP). The reason this is odd is because I would have thought that the glyph of Flame Shock would make crit a more valuable stat than the glyph of ToW or (especially) the glyph of Lava.

A possible explanation:
When I throw in the Glyph of Lava, crit shoots way up. With FS, it goes back down. When combining the glyph of Lava with the 4t9 set bonus, LvB becomes quite powerful. I'm guessing that the increased value from crit stems from Rawr not taking into account that it has a 100% crit chance from FS when calculating glyphs/relative stat values. The reason this problem probably exists is because of the 3.2.2 Flame Shock change, since the glyph seems to be the reason crit is devalued with the Flame Shock Glyph. Without the FS glyph, I suppose it's still calculating it with the LvB consuming the FS.

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Old 09/30/09, 8:55 PM   #2463
zaiats_2k
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Night Elf Druid
 
Гром (EU)
Why Rawr assume boss parry chance is 13.75%, while common accepted value is 14%?

float[] WHITE_PARRY_CHANCE_CAP = new float[] { 0.0500f, 0.0550f, 0.0600f, 0.1375f }; // 13.75%
I logged on my bear, equipped gear with 333 expertise rating + 40 from food + 10 expertise skill from Primal Precision talent (Rawr says it's 'Over the parry cap by 4 Expertise Rating'), Blizzard interface shows it as 55 expertise (-13.75% to parry).
And spanked heroic training dummy for 30 minutes. No surprise I've got 2 parries...

Last edited by zaiats_2k : 09/30/09 at 8:56 PM. Reason: clarification

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Old 09/30/09, 9:49 PM   #2464
Jothay
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Stormrage
No, it's actually 13.75%

Come see the Rawr Project for all World of Warcraft Classes and Specs!
- Astrylian: Project Coordinator, Bear & Cat Dev
- Jothay: Project Coordinator & Arms Warrior Dev

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Old 09/30/09, 10:00 PM   #2465
Astrylian
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We can look into that, since your testing did get parries. It may be 13.8% or something.

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Old 10/01/09, 2:40 AM   #2466
zaiats_2k
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Night Elf Druid
 
Гром (EU)
Here is the screenshot. Sorry, interface is in Russian, but you can see numbers.


I doubt it can be any less than 14%. As far as I know Blizzard does not take into account minor changes in expertise rating when calculating parries. You need to increase expertise skill to see the difference. And 56 expertise skill would be -14%...

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Old 10/01/09, 2:42 AM   #2467
Jothay
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Stormrage
The Blizz Interface shows you rounded values, individual ratings points do still have value (you don't need to have several rating before gaining a point)

Come see the Rawr Project for all World of Warcraft Classes and Specs!
- Astrylian: Project Coordinator, Bear & Cat Dev
- Jothay: Project Coordinator & Arms Warrior Dev

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Old 10/01/09, 2:54 AM   #2468
Astrylian
Rawr
 
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While the Blizz interface rounds inaccurately, the fact that Rawr says he is over the parry cap, and he got a parry, says that something's wrong. So it's not necessarily 14%, but it's more than 373.

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Old 10/01/09, 11:53 AM   #2469
Cluey
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Dragonblight
Originally Posted by Astrylian View Post
Oh, ugh, that page is way out of date, I need to update it. Rawr.Rogue should be decent now (please report that bug with axes on our Issue Tracker), but I'd suggest double-checking with the leading spreadsheet (since the Rogue spreadsheet is very good).
I searched the rogue forum for Rawr and there is very little on it and the posts are quite old and negative, my rogue is an alt and I am now looking at gearing him up a bit so I have been looking at him in Rawr but I have no idea how accurate it is but I am familiar with the interface now.
If the rogue developer posts here could he please have a look at the way the cat module reports hit and expertise amounts in the tooltip? Some information about how accurate it is and what needs work and whats working well would be nice.

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Old 10/01/09, 12:59 PM   #2470
janaka
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Troll Warrior
 
Die Silberne Hand (EU)
I got parried with 407 expertise rating (+ 6 expertise from Talents) after ~1200 attacks. (Screenshot).
That means parry chance is at least (407/8.1974973675+6)/4 = 13,9123248155.

Didn't get a parry with 409 rating in ~1600 attacks. (Screenshot)

I'd suspect parry chance to be 14%, and that all sample sizes so far to test between 408 and 410 rating were just too small.

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Old 10/02/09, 1:49 PM   #2471
Jheusse
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Night Elf Druid
 
Silver Hand
Had a weird thought while berating myself for low uptimes on debuffs on a recent WWS.

One of the knocks on Rawr generally is that it outputs a theoretical dps, with perfect uptimes and 100% dots all the time.

How hard would it be to implement the ability to analyze uptime variability for dots or buffs?

just a checkbox and a slider for one or many of the items you're typically looking at. Also drives home how much improvement can be gained just from improving rake or rip uptime.

(Just an idea so I can beat myself up some more for consistently coming in 1k under where Rawr places my dps)

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Old 10/02/09, 4:48 PM   #2472
Astrylian
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Stormrage
Latest version actually has that; Lag Variance. That's how much buffer time you need between the ending of and the reapplication of de/buffs.

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Old 10/05/09, 12:36 PM   #2473
Kris
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Human Paladin
 
Shadowsong (EU)
Being able to run 2 instances of Rawr at the same time would be extremely valuable for people like me with 2 specs and 2 sets of gear. Any plans in that direction?

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Old 10/05/09, 1:08 PM   #2474
baldeagle
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Tauren Druid
 
Burning Legion
This is already possible by extracting the program into two different locations on your pc. I have one placed the My Documents folder, then another on the Desktop. Simply create a shortcut to each, then you can pin both shortcuts to your start menu, and you're good to go. Each will run as two separate programs, yet will draw from the same saved profiles you create and store.

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Old 10/06/09, 5:14 AM   #2475
Impulz
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Sen'jin (EU)
I wanted to use the latest Rawr version to play around with some gemming options but it showed completly skewed gear ratings (like T8,5 as BIS etc). After looking at the relative ratings I think I know why. Haste is valued with -17. For once haste should never be negative I think and I'm even far from the soft cap.
Here's a screenshot:


I used the default 0/13/58 talent build and a priority list (cod, immo, conf, cb, inc) and an armory-imported char. Anyone got an idea what might be causing this?
Here's the xml file: http://testfarm.net/aylirabugged.xml

Thanks.

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