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Old 03/31/08, 9:09 PM   #426
Tacitus
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Hmph, going to write that off with Omen bugging for some weird reason and tank slacking. While still on topic of Illidan, it seems that they did something to the blue flame burst in the demon phase (or some mod is butchering it), but I managed to drop to singledigit FPS while running the fight otherwise in the 50 fps range.

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Old 03/31/08, 10:32 PM   #427
 Shalas
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Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
Which one for Consortium?

Mana Tombs normal mode won't get you Revered or Exalted, and there isn't any other dungeon I'm aware of that gets you Consortium rep. Or has this changed?
Mana Tombs isn't a level 70 instance, which is why it stops giving rep at honored. Just like nearly every faction in the game, there is no level 70 instance for the Consortium.

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Old 04/01/08, 3:55 AM   #428
Ja7us
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Just got my Consortium gem bag (exalted) and it contained 4 blue-quality gems and zero green-quality gems. Random good luck, perhaps, or maybe they've upped the reward for the quest. What did everyone else get?

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Old 04/01/08, 4:09 AM   #429
Rane
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Mazrigos (EU)
I got three blues and two greens, Exalted as well.

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Old 04/01/08, 4:34 AM   #430
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It's still random and even if it is upped, we would need very large sample to confirm it and I doubt anyone wants to see tens of pages full of posts like that.
For the record, I'm Exalted and got 1 Blue quality gem and 4 greens.

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Old 04/01/08, 6:44 AM   #431
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It's random, you got lucky.

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Old 04/01/08, 9:36 AM   #432
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Small update today:

World of Warcraft Client Patch 2.4.1

The latest patch notes can always be found at WoW -> Patch Notes -> Current Patch Notes

The latest test realm patch notes can always be found at WoW -> Test Realm Patch Notes

Hunter
  • Tranquilizing Shot no longer incorrectly restricts use of other Hunter abilities in specific situations.
User Interface
  • Combat Log
    • Only the last 300 combat log entries are now stored.
    • Filter settings are now properly saved.
    • Changing zones will no longer reload the entire log
Bug Fixes
  • Fixed a sound engine error that was causing lock-ups on exit.
  • Fixed a shader error that was causing kernel panics on Mac PowerPCs.
  • Fixed a bug on Mac that was preventing the intro Cinematics from playing.

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You know what I miss? I miss the days when you saw someone and you went, wow, that dude has killed Chromaggus, Nef, AND Razuvious.

Anyway. Badges suck, bring back 40 mans.

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Old 04/01/08, 9:40 AM   #433
lightstrike
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Changing zones will no longer reload the entire log.
Finally, this was annoying the crap out of me.

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Old 04/01/08, 9:47 AM   #434
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Originally Posted by Ja7us View Post
Just got my Consortium gem bag (exalted) and it contained 4 blue-quality gems and zero green-quality gems. Random good luck, perhaps, or maybe they've upped the reward for the quest. What did everyone else get?
It's luck, I got all greens.


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Old 04/01/08, 12:40 PM   #435
Mordekhuul
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Terenas
Queue times for arena matches have been reduced. Players will now be able to enter matches faster than previously.
Has anyone seen a comment from Blizzard on this one? 2v2 queue times were 14 minutes last night. 3v3 queue times were 8 minuts. Both were twice what I have seen in the past.

Edit: Arena tournament started last night. I am guessing there was increased arena traffic from this that might affect live realms. Can anyone confirm arena times from after 2.4 release, but before the tournament started last night?

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Old 04/01/08, 12:43 PM   #436
Fiola
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Originally Posted by Mordekhuul View Post
I'm guessing this did not succeed. Has anyone seen a comment from Blizzard on this one? 2v2 queue times were 14 minutes last night. 3v3 queue times were 8 minuts. Both were twice what I have seen in the past.
Queue times were definitely still bad, but maybe there were more people arena-ing due to the entry level blue PvP gear.


I know my groups ran into many (relatively) squishy teams.

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Old 04/01/08, 1:16 PM   #437
Flintz
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During our last fight in SSC against FLK the shaman didn't drop his spitfire totem at all. Has anyone else run into this? I didn't see anything in the patch notes about this encounter being modified. Only the fathom lord himself dropped the spitfire totem.

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Old 04/01/08, 1:24 PM   #438
Dryssa
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Originally Posted by Flintz View Post
During our last fight in SSC against FLK the shaman didn't drop his spitfire totem at all. Has anyone else run into this? I didn't see anything in the patch notes about this encounter being modified. Only the fathom lord himself dropped the spitfire totem.
This has already been mentioned in the thread, several times.

Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler
If everything else is truly equal (gear, skill, etc.) then the pure dps class should beat the hybrid. If a raid chooses to run without rogues, mages, warlock or hunters, they should expect their overall dps to be lower. You can quote me on that.

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Old 04/01/08, 1:25 PM   #439
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Originally Posted by Primal View Post
Small update today:
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# Only the last 300 combat log entries are now stored.
I am kind of worried about this. 300 log entries is not very many, when you look at an entire raid. Since I've been depending on the Blizz combat log since the patch to look at "what killed me?" sorts of things, I'm thinking that I'm going to look at my combat log only to find out that the last 300 entries all happened after I died during the ensuing wipe.

If that's the case, I'll have to switch back to some alternative log like SimpleCombatLog, and probably have to leave my standard "combat log" tab fallow and hidden, since it seems to have stuff built-in that you can't turn off. Not particularly happy with that idea.

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Old 04/01/08, 1:36 PM   #440
Thessaly
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Kargath
I didn't see this anywhere, the Sisters of Pain/Pleasure before Mother now have a shared health buff, much like the Broken Slaves in Zangarmarsh.

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Old 04/01/08, 2:00 PM   #441
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Detheroc
Originally Posted by Thessaly View Post
I didn't see this anywhere, the Sisters of Pain/Pleasure before Mother now have a shared health buff, much like the Broken Slaves in Zangarmarsh.
They also introduced new sounds for a few things, the most notable to me was Shahraz having an obnoxious new sound for her silencing scream. It's some vague cross between a fog horn and a bull elephant farting.

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Old 04/01/08, 2:11 PM   #442
Prinsesa
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Echo Isles
mmo-champion.com seems to indicate that the HWL and Season 1 Druid sets all have the 15% Travel Form speed bonus back, but the S2 and S3 sets still have the Starfire reduction for Moonkin and Regrowth reduction for Resto.

Similarly, the HWL and S1 Holy Paladin sets have the 10 second cooldown reduction on HoJ, but the S2 and S3 sets retain the Holy Shock healing bonus.

It'll be interesting to see if Druids would be willing to gimp their stats enough to wear 4 pieces of S1 and 1 piece of S3 just to get the Travel Form bonus.

"We do want Sanctuary to be the tanking seal"

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Old 04/01/08, 2:12 PM   #443
Karoo
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Korgath
Originally Posted by Mordekhuul View Post
Has anyone seen a comment from Blizzard on this one? 2v2 queue times were 14 minutes last night. 3v3 queue times were 8 minuts. Both were twice what I have seen in the past.

Edit: Arena tournament started last night. I am guessing there was increased arena traffic from this that might affect live realms. Can anyone confirm arena times from after 2.4 release, but before the tournament started last night?
I can confirm I saw the same thing. Queues before patch on Monday night were generally in the 4-8 minute range. Last night they were in the 8-12 minute range.

Even if, as one of the previous posters mentioned, there were simply more people pvping because of the new blue sets there wouldn't be such an influx of new arena players to cause queue inflation that much. Especially since they were supposed to be alleviating the issues with more instances to handle 2v2 queue times.

As a side note, am I crazy or did I remember the patch notes talking about a nerf to the lifebloom coefficient? There is none (Lifebloom still ticks for the same amount) but I could have swore I saw that in the patch notes.

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Old 04/01/08, 2:15 PM   #444
Karoo
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Korgath
Originally Posted by Prinsesa View Post
mmo-champion.com seems to indicate that the HWL and Season 1 Druid sets all have the 15% Travel Form speed bonus back, but the S2 and S3 sets still have the Starfire reduction for Moonkin and Regrowth reduction for Resto.

Similarly, the HWL and S1 Holy Paladin sets have the 10 second cooldown reduction on HoJ, but the S2 and S3 sets retain the Holy Shock healing bonus.

It'll be interesting to see if Druids would be willing to gimp their stats enough to wear 4 pieces of S1 and 1 piece of S3 just to get the Travel Form bonus.
I still wear 4 pieces of S1 and definitely do not get the speed bonus. I wonder if I unequip my 1 piece of S3 if that will change but I highly doubt it.

And I would definitely sacrifice S3 stats for the speed bonus. No question.

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Old 04/01/08, 2:18 PM   #445
Addled
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Originally Posted by Karoo View Post
As a side note, am I crazy or did I remember the patch notes talking about a nerf to the lifebloom coefficient? There is none (Lifebloom still ticks for the same amount) but I could have swore I saw that in the patch notes.
The coefficient was changed, but Empowered Rejuvenation was updated to work on Lifebloom, so the end result is the same for Resto druids.

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Old 04/01/08, 2:19 PM   #446
constantius
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Shadowsong
Originally Posted by Karoo View Post
As a side note, am I crazy or did I remember the patch notes talking about a nerf to the lifebloom coefficient? There is none (Lifebloom still ticks for the same amount) but I could have swore I saw that in the patch notes.
This was removed from the PTR. It was implemented originally as a nerf, but then retracted, just like the warlock Life Tap change. \

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Old 04/01/08, 2:32 PM   #447
Pixen
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Dragonmaw
Originally Posted by Prinsesa View Post
mmo-champion.com seems to indicate that the HWL and Season 1 Druid sets all have the 15% Travel Form speed bonus back, but the S2 and S3 sets still have the Starfire reduction for Moonkin and Regrowth reduction for Resto.

Similarly, the HWL and S1 Holy Paladin sets have the 10 second cooldown reduction on HoJ, but the S2 and S3 sets retain the Holy Shock healing bonus.

It'll be interesting to see if Druids would be willing to gimp their stats enough to wear 4 pieces of S1 and 1 piece of S3 just to get the Travel Form bonus.
I'm going to be kind of pissed if this is the case. I'm enjoying the bonus to my holy shock healing.

What happens if you have a mix of S1 and S3 in that case?

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"They were bad, stop trying to figure out why bad players do bad things."

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Old 04/01/08, 2:45 PM   #448
Ungeir
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Regarding Arena queue times (2v2):

On patch day, on Emerald Dream EU (Blackout battlegroup), queue times were measured in seconds. However, normal battlegrounds had insane lag, to the extent they were unplayable. A message came up in breaking news that they were aware of this and a fix would come. Next time I logged on, the BG lag was gone and 2v2 queues were back to normal.

I remember a blue post stating a reason for the lengthy 2v2 queues was a cap on the number of arena instances which can be running at the same time. I believe they upped this cap, leading to lower queue times (basically instantenous). However the increased number of instances busted the performance of the BG/Arena server cluster, which I speculate is one cluster, since the BG lag came and went with the arena queue time change.

So in essence, the reason for the lengthy queue times is because Blizzard needs to buy more hardware to host more BG/Arena instances. The solution given by the blue, as I remember it, was to queue up for 3v3 or 5v5, which makes sense from Blizzard's viewpoint, since it reduces the number of instances if players form larger arena teams. However, I believe 2v2 is by far the most popular format, for a variety of reasons (duo couples, ease of being online at the same time, etc.).

As I see it, there are only two ways we can have shorter queues:

a) Blizzard adds more hardware to support more instances.
b) Blizzard optimizes their code to somehow not bust performance when a very high number of instances are running.

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Old 04/01/08, 3:08 PM   #449
Argat
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Cenarion Circle
Originally Posted by Tacitus View Post
Hmph, going to write that off with Omen bugging for some weird reason and tank slacking.
It's funny, we had an issue with one of our frost mages pulling aggro on one of the flames and wiping us, when Omen showed him as being far below the flame tank. So even though Adrine was standing around doing what melee do on the fight(nothing), we still got to blame him for wiping us. Sometimes, it's nice raiding with a crazed rogue programmer.

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Old 04/01/08, 3:22 PM   #450
Ehud
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Lothar
Originally Posted by Prinsesa View Post
mmo-champion.com seems to indicate that the HWL and Season 1 Druid sets all have the 15% Travel Form speed bonus back, but the S2 and S3 sets still have the Starfire reduction for Moonkin and Regrowth reduction for Resto.

Similarly, the HWL and S1 Holy Paladin sets have the 10 second cooldown reduction on HoJ, but the S2 and S3 sets retain the Holy Shock healing bonus.

It'll be interesting to see if Druids would be willing to gimp their stats enough to wear 4 pieces of S1 and 1 piece of S3 just to get the Travel Form bonus.
Keep in mind that this announcement comes right before their coverage of the Bard Guitar Hero Class, Molten Core the console game for Atari, and a rickroll mod.

I'd take everything posted today with a grain of salt.

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