whysoez

It seems fairly obvious to me that the reason for the change is so we don't have to use up a trinket slot to go faster while mounted. Since you can't change trinkets in combat, this will prevent the problem of getting kicked off your mount and not being able to have your combat trinket instantly.

 

vorda

People have reported already that the buff vanishes when felmyst dies (I think). The nature of the TE encounter makes this hard(er) to check on WWS though.

As for death logging, Expiration (on wowace) has been working again for almost a week now I think. I dont know how he fixed it, but it is logging deaths perfectly (and has some extra options aswell these days). Very much recommended!

 

• Xaviera

This is not true, the buff is still active even upon Felmyst dying.

Just tested on PTR, 5 manned (then a few more joined at the end) the first robot to see if buff was active. Sunwell Radiance is still active, WWS results here, you can see the avoidance by perusing my own file or the mob's attack results. (used a set with over 35% dodge unbuffed and 23% parry). The reduced parry rates are odd, but probably just bad luck.

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timski

Luminous Bluetail now share cooldown with 'lock healthstones (and I guess everything else on that timer) and not mana/healing potions. So they should be of limited use to raiding healers, who aren't otherwise using that cooldown. Bad news is they are now effectively unfarmable: Luminous Bluetail have become a rare drop from within Bloated Giant Sunfish. Bloated Giant Sunfish themselves are under 10% of the catch on Isle of Quel'Danas. Or there my be other sources? More detail...

 

Prinsesa

We may be seeing the first traces of an Inscription system with the Charm of Swift Flight and a Druid's Flight Form.

That is, instead of a Riding Crop enchanting a Gryphon, you'll have the Charm of Swift Flight inscripting (sp?) the Flight Form spell.

This might also include whatever solution Blizzard decides to apply for the Warlock and Paladin mounts, which are also spells. Paladins aren't so badly affected since our Crusader Aura is better than any riding crop and can be turned on and off at will, but Warlocks definitely get the short end of the stick if they don't get an enchant/inscription for their Dreadsteeds.

http://armory.mmo-champion.com.nyud....63815BffMm.png

 

◊ Docjowles

Well given the reports from the PTR that the Riding Crop et al are unchanged, maybe it was just some rogue data that snuck into the patch MPQ's. I think the Inscription guesses are not far from the mark. There's ample evidence that Blizzard's revision control practices are not exactly top notch (see: 3 patches in a row clobbering the Gruul Hurtful Strike hotfix, random Howling Fjord data in the MPQ's since ages ago, etc). I guess time will tell, but given what a seemingly unnecessary change this is, I could definitely buy it being nothing but an accidental preview of half-implemented things to come.

 

Prinsesa

I actually welcome this change as another very-nice-to-have.

I have Crusader Aura so I don't really use any of the mount trinkets, but I can definitely see how inconvenient it is to have to set-up a switching macro (or somesuch) to keep your Riding Crop equipped when you're running and your combat trinket when you're not.

The random nature of world PvP (or even using a mount in BGs) means you might enter combat without one trinket, and the 30 second on switching might mean you only get to the use the passive effect even if you get to switch.

http://armory.mmo-champion.com.nyud....63815BffMm.png

 

Gearknight

Here's another wonderful tidbit of 2.4.2 patch note 'accuracy':

* Goblin Jumper Cables are no longer a trinket item.

This has been the case since 2.3, or perhaps earlier.

Edit: Oh, I'm wrong. I learn something every day - I just wish it were occasionally useful.

 

Baalzaman

No, the Jumper Cables are still a trinket: [Goblin Jumper Cables]
The Jumper Cables XL are not: [Goblin Jumper Cables XL]

 

darkhorse

Not true. The XL cables were made a non trinket but the normal ones were left as a trinket.

 

kaib

The worrisome part is that the gates are STILL open. I was hoping it was an honest mistake when copying patch data from their own test realm(s), where gates are obviously open. But as they did not close them in the last few hours, this seems intended. What a sad joke, was really hoping the PTR progress raiding was over for SWP.

 

• songster

Actually, this applies even to riding crop / gryphon etc. A gryphon isn't an item you equip that gives you bonuses, it sits in your inventory and you use it. Its on-use effect is to cast a spell giving you the "Mounted" buff. So the new version of the Swift Riding Crop is actually affecting a spell rather than an item.

Inscription preview/testing is absolutely on the money.

 

novasphere

I'm not sure what this rumbling about the riding crops/charm of Swift Flight is all about. I'm on the PTR right now, and the Charm works just like it always has.

Oh, and [Glove Reinforcements] are now only 4 Heavy Knothide and 3 Primal Earth.

 

Teza

New PvP epic trinket added to the game (it costs 40k honor): http://www.worldofraids.com/2008/apr...healliance.jpg

 

Lila

I tested on both Live and PTR realms now.

On PTR [Design: Figurine - Seaspray Albatross] is still broken, and only restores 750 mana (10 ticks of 75 mana), while [Figurine - Talasite Owl] is actually fixed, and restores the full 900 mana (12 ticks).

Both are broken on Live.

 

Healranktwo

Actually, for some odd reason, i'm fairly certain the trash after Felmyst do not have the Sunwell Radiance buff. I tried it out over our twin wipes the last week and noticed that I wasn't suffering a reduction in avoidance, so I could actually use my threat gear and be fine. Can anyone else confirm this?

Of course, the buff is active as soon as you get to the twins though, so I have no idea what's going on there.

 

Nezralix

Okay, 40k honor is pretty nuts.

Between this and the extremely high badge cost of the new items, I think that maybe they need a better way of dealing with late-cycle item progression.

 

Rasputin

Who says they want to? They want us to use their content, and that content includes BGs. Once people have all the honor they need, they will generally stop queueing for BGs(with exceptions for random friend/guild groups or what have you). This trinket plus the S4 Honor gear will ensure that people will be queueing for BGs for some time to come, and using that content. The same goes for heroics and all raid instances which drop badges. I'm fine with the currency Blizzard is choosing for PvP. I would prefer they fix the method of acquiring that currency so that it's actually enjoyable.

 

• Xaviera

You can't zone in, but the gates are open. It was changed recently, at least on the US servers.

 

Losar

Sites are reporting that the new Shadowsong Amethyst cut is available from the SSO rep gem vendor but can anyone check the Mt. Hyjal one to see if it is up there? I'd check myself but installing the entire ptr client and patching to spend 20 seconds zoning there then never touching it again is too much even for me. The last round of new gems were on both vendors so I hope this is the case.

 

Prinsesa

Food for thought: The honor cost of the three Guardian's items that have rating requirements, namely the ring, the boots and the bracers, costs 44,944 honor, or just a little more than than the new trinket.

http://armory.mmo-champion.com.nyud....63815BffMm.png

 

Rokh

Edited after I realized what the OP meant, heh.

For reference, they're not on the PTR, he meant the combined cost.

 

dblaikie

Edit: already covered.

 

gummy2

40k honor seems like a lot for the epic pvp trinket, but +20 resilience is a lot. Its equivalent to giving you 2 gem sockets that would have went towards +10 resilence gems.
Think of it as 40 more ap, 20 more agi or whichever 2 bt quality gems you would have used to add 20 resilience.

 

Nezralix