rayijin

Blizzard wants WoW to become a competitive esport. However, right now the arena field is plagued by comps and counter-comps. As such, while your critique is valid for the midrange (you stated 1750-1850) which is an important part of the subscriber base and even for the esport aspect, it doesn't address the most important balance of the game which is the very top end.

Imagine the finals game in a 2v2 tournament, with the best players in the world, being decided by class setup before the match even starts. This is the way WoW is right now.

Agreed, composition is by far the most important thing in 2's and 3's arena. If you have a counter comp to another team, you will win a majority of the time unless you screw up badly, the RNG makes none of your attacks crit or the other team has an incredible skill (or gear, in the case of warglaive / t6 rogues) advantage over you.

This is the most important point in this 2.4.2 tangent.

 

Melkunie

major last minute change added:

And also: It looks like Scare Beast still takes 1.5 sec and isn't instant as mentionned in the patch files notes. The notes on the official site have been updated to reflect it changes and we can assume that the 1.5 sec casting time is intended.

 

Touf

Is it interruptible or subject to pushback?

 

Gearknight

Yes and yes.

Also, the NPC tracking options (find repairs, find stablemaster, etc) seem to be removed. Another 2.4.2 change, or is FuBar_TrackerFu simply in need of an update?

 

Touf

Interesting...does interruption lock out any other spells? Mend pet for example?

I have to confess that I never bothered trying before, since I thought it was more like Steady Shot.

 

Zaroua

The tooltip clearly states that the change went though however. But my Hunter alt still has to cast it for 1.5 seconds.

If a Druid specs Moonkin in Darnassus, do the trainers still laugh at him?

 

◊ Penguin

Blue:
"The change to the cast time was reverted to the 1.5 second cast time. The range is still 30 yards. Please note though that the tooltip still reads that it is instant cast, but this is a bug that will be fixed."
WoW Forums -> Scare beast ........

There's not some hidden "but he tries really hard" variable built into the game. -Slake

I always love the "it doesn't fit my style of play" line. There are only two styles of play; Correct, and Incorrect. The only people that ever use this line are people with the incorrect style of play. -Sebudai

 

Scurn

Honestly as a druid, and a feral druid in arena/pvp at that, I think this is a fine change. You upgrade the ability while still leaving in it's counters (LoS, interrupts, etc.) I do think they should probably remove the pushback on it but I'm happy that I didn't freak out like a lot of other people and trusted in Blizzard this once.

 

• frmorrison

The blue PvP trinket with 20 resilience is now 8,000 honor.

Know Thy group function; Thy DPS shall avoid aggro, Thy tank shall not attempt to DPS, and Thy Healer shall not go AFK without notifying Thy group.

 

Kumar

There is some change to the BE Rogue Stealth animations...and they are really bad now.

 

bimmian

The primary problem with scare beast in its pre 2.4.2 state was its range was so small people could easily just run out of range before it finished casting. This change is fine, it didn't need to be instant cast. These band-aid fixes aimed at more counter-comping is not what's going to fix the hunter class in arenas.

 

Seidule

Kalecgos' Revitalize now affects all (?) classes.

 

Tyranna

I have to disagree with this. SB was very hard to use before due to a combination of it's short range, no pushback prevention, and the biggest thing, being able to instant shift out of forms to nullify it. In fact, it was damn near impossible to use SB without chaining it with either scattershot or freezing trap.

But I'm not going to complain. A buff is a buff, even if it's entirely situational and minor at best.

 

Pixen

They appear to have "fixed" pets attacking targets after they stealth/invis.


Unfortunately they've also broken it so that pets refuse to attack these targets even if they're marked. GG bliz.


Edit: Nevermind, whatever they changed only appears to affect warp stalkers so far.

 

Seidule

The proc from [Shard of Contempt] was renamed so its not called Heroism anymore.

 

Cyn

Ah thank god for that, it allways seemed to confuse my mods, aswell as make WWS a little confusing some times for WWS guilds ("Why did they give their melee 6 heroisms?")

 

Mogonar

Anyone noticing strangeness with Archimonde's fires?

I don't want to be all "deep breaths more" but it seems that they are lasting longer and able to target melee right off the bat. We've had this fight down for quite a while now and all of the sudden it's giving us fits. I'm enhancement and I've ended up a charred ghost wolf a lot more than in the past.

 

Kumar

Combat Log doesn't show an Arcane Orb Entry for VR after the patch.

 

• Melador

They fixed the [Shifting Naaru Sliver]. Only the caster now.

 

◊ Kytrarewn

We noticed the same thing tonight.

 

Ja7us

The castbar icon (showed when using Quartz, among others) for the cast bars used when you interact with objects, like "Opening," is now a gear, rather than nothing or a placeholder Sammy icon.

Also, the "angry skull" graphic for Enrage and Bloodrage now plays the Bloodlust sound when it appears. It's possible Tiger's Fury, Hourglass, etc do too, haven't tested those yet.

 

Ton

After 2.4 the hellfires were going away much more quickly and they weren't targeting anyone anymore, but rather going in random directions. If they are lasting longer now in 2.4.2, perhaps the shorter duration was unintended and they're back to their original duration.

 

brutalbovine

The new buff is called "Disdain," a much more appropriate name considering the name of the trinket.

 

◊ Shaker

My S2 spellblade is a lot bigger than it was last patch. :P

Consistency. It's only a virtue if you're not a screwup.

 

LiquidHAL

Not sure if this is intended as a nerf, but now when the water elemental dies his corpse sticks around for ~10 seconds like a hunter's pet, and it refuses to re-summon another while the corpse is up.