(Didn't see any specific thread on Deathfrost, but as it's so recently added I felt it was worth collating info).

So... with the release of Midsummer comes this intriguing new enchant. My first thoughts are that it provides an awesome mid-priced weapon enchant for those who don't want to splash out hugely on mongoose/executioner but don't want something as cheap as fiery. Certainly I'll be stocking up on Shadow/Water primals for use on my WotLK levelling weapons. But... how good IS deathfrost, and exactly what does it stack with.

The proc seems to have a 20 second cooldown, and a high chance (heard it quoted as much as 50%). The question is whether a.) these values are correct and b.) if you have two weapons dual wielded with deathfrost on both, is the cooldown shared or separate.

150 Frost damage proc. Apparently this uses your Spell Crit rate to determine crit chance and modifiers (so a Chaotic Skyfire will make it crit more, as will spell/frost crit talents). Can it be resisted? Parried/dodged? Does it use your spell hit?

15% Haste Slow on melee/ranged/spells. This is the kicker. Clearly this makes it a good PvP enchant (depending on procrate), but what exactly does it stack with. I've heard some people say it stacks with Thunderclap/Thunderfury, others say it doesnt. Logic seems to imply that TC+Deathfrost would give 15% caster haste and 20% melee haste... but is there a chance that the 15% and 20% melee haste would stack. Apparently it works fine on raidbosses, so an alternative for small groups without a warrior, but its viability as a Warrior Tank enchant is very much dependant upon whether its slowing effect stacks in any way with thunderclap.

Alas I haven't tried it yet myself, I intend to but I don't have any spare weapons that I can afford to overwrite a mongoose/executioner with. So I'm hoping this thread can be the dumping ground for everyone's findings on the enchant.

You can always use a green to test out the enchant, the materials are pretty cheap.


I see a few people said it was a 20 second internal cooldown on Wowhead.

I tested it earlier tonight offhand only on a Blasted lands mob and I got back to back procs. So at least for melee there is no cooldown.

I also duelled with it and it seems there are no diminishing returns for pvp.

It is also not a labelled debuff so it's not dispellable.

6/21 22:36:40.093 SPELL_DAMAGE,0x00000000001F4D62,"Edina",0x511,0xF130001DF409B1C4,"Servant of Razelikh",0x10a48,46579,"Deathfrost",0x10,153,16,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
6/21 22:36:40.437 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0xF130001DF409B1C4,"Servant of Razelikh",0x10a48,46629,"Deathfrost",0x10,DEBUFF
6/21 22:36:41.000 SPELL_DAMAGE,0x00000000001F4D62,"Edina",0x511,0xF130001DF409B1C4,"Servant of Razelikh",0x10a48,46579,"Deathfrost",0x10,153,16,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
6/21 22:36:49.281 SPELL_AURA_REMOVED,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0xF130001DF409B1C4,"Servant of Razelikh",0x10a48,46629,"Deathfrost",0x10,DEBUFF

We have to assume all bosses are immune to it? If not it would be very overpowered. And hmm.. if it procs that much wouldn't it be better than the other caster enchants then?

The melee slow doesn't stack with thunderclap, however does the spell casting slow work on bosses? The lock/mage tank on highking/kael/illidan/twins etc with this enchant could be very nice.

Another warrior in my guild slapped on a 2 hander and started swinging at me. Starting swing speed (with torch of the damned) was 3.68, with death frost it was 4.24 and with thunderclap it went to 4.42. I have 3/3 Imp TC and something makes me think that if they did stack his attack would have been way slower than 4.42.

I'd be interested in how this works with priest self buffs.

Touch of Weakness can proc blackout, so I'd think it would be able to proc this. Things would be interesting if it procced off reflective shield. Permanent -15% attack speed on the rogue/warrior killing me would be much better than +81 healing.

Actually, I'll test this.

Important notice:
Deathfrost cannot be refreshed. So, once the debuff is up, it cannot proc again until the debuff has faded. Even having the proc go off again does not apply damage. You can see this by just melee'ing and you'll see the graphic go off again.

Doesn't the log up there disprove that?

Edit: Deathfrost can be applied to Kil'jaeden. Whether it's worth applying is another story :P

Has anyone tested to determine if this effect stacks with curse of tongues and/or mind numbing poison? If it does, I can see potential applications on fights like RoS and Council, for the rogue interrupter.


If this enchant does not stack with thunderclap, then likely it also would not stack with mind-numbing, but a test would be desirable either way.

No other similar effects stack, so why would anyone expect Deathfrost to be an exception? The stronger debuff overrides all weaker ones in basically every situation I know of.

After some preliminary personal testing, with Deathfrost enchanted on a 1.5 speed weapon, I have yet to see it proc as a rogue. However, the warlock who I'm testing with also has Deathfrost enchanted, and can proc it on me almost 50 percent of the time.

Is this enchant possibly affected by spell hit, or is my weapon/enchant bugged in some way?

No combat log to prove it, but i have had it refresh itself on the same mob twice just hamstringing some spiders and wolves between bg ques.

http://elitistjerks.com/789134-post140.html

Two things:
a) Can someone check that it procs on ranged attacks as well? Had several hunters state that it does.
b) The proc rate: I had a paladin state that he had 8% proc rate over ~1k swings with a 1.6s gavel and Seal of the Crusader (40% haste) up.
Can someone confirm 8% that by swinging a very slow 2Her?

I tried it this morning for about 2 hours as a Hunter and I did not see it proc once off any ranged ability. I tried Serpent Sting, Immolation Trap, Viper Sting, Arcane Shot (as well as some others) -- none procced it. I was really hoping that It would, might have been interesting to use in PvP.

Anyways, the tooltip doesn't say it procs off ranged attacks... so why would it?

Deathfrost can be refreshed. Tested just now with an enhancement shaman dueling me. Between his two weapon swings (both enchanted with Deathfrost) and shocks, it procced fairly often, and more than once while the debuff was already on me. These procs did their normal 150 frost damage in addition to refreshing the debuff back to 8 seconds' duration.

Were the proc refreshes from the same weapon or different weapons?

Is deathfrost worth to elemental shamans? or +40 spell dmg is still better?
My account is frozen right now so i cant test by myself, someone can test it for me please?

To be worth of use it must do more than 31.76 damage per cast right? (0.794 LB coef * 40 spelldmg),
that means if this proc every 4.72 casts or earlier it will be better? 150 / 4.72 = 31.77

This also procs on lightning shield and lighting overload? and on second and third targets of CL or just primary?

Oh, and can this proc crit? its based on casting crit chance?

I know that im making a lot of questions, but im really curious about this, sorry >.<

Edit - a word missing.

I enchanted deathfrost on my old torch, and tried it out in a bt run, i found that:

-The proc does refresh itself
-The debuff was applied to every bt boss
-The debuff is physical, and if TC is present on the mob/boss, the debuff will apply regardless (but most likely only affect cast time speed)
-It crits for 150% dmg, and it's affected by some damage multipliers (had a 334 crit) but not really sure wich ones
-in arround ~800 swings + 330 crusader strikes, had 172 procs, with 11% crit chance, so it uses spell crit i guess
-i'm not really sure what hit mechanics it uses, but i had 0 resists (full or partial), 0 dodges/block/parry (i'm hit+expertise capped)

I'm assuming you were ret, so sanctity aura perhaps?

Improved Sanctity Aura, Misery, Curse of Elements and Crusade are the ones I would assume for a ret pally off the top of my head. I suppose it would be roughly the same for other classes; anything that improves "all damage" or "frost damage" should increase it.

Of course I'm assuming it counts as a magic attack. Since the debuff is physical it is possible it is counted as a physical attack, which would use entirely different modifiers.

but does the cast speed reduction work on bosses?