Honestly other guilds have said that the only change to the encounter that could potentially make it more difficult is the fact that you can't get out of combat to res on Razorgore anymore. Everything else is really inconsequential and makes the initial fight much more consistent spawn-wise, or so someone in Conquest said.

update: we took him down last night without too much difficulty. We were short on tanks and healers and we had one tank for 50% of the fight. (he rocks :) ). Thanks for your help.

Now to figure out how to stand around vael so he doesn't own us with his breathing and tail swipes =/

Question, did you guys create/do you use a mod to announce burning adrenaline? I edited cq's geddon mod for the encounter but i have yet to test it. It should work after i iron out the kinks, and it should be very useful. Last night we had a hunter wipe out 12 people and crit one of them for 12k :)

That's exactly what we did, yeah. It's generally not hard to notice that you have BA ("wait why did my frostbolt just cast instantly and do 2000 damage? ohhhh!") but some backup never hurts.

Good luck with Vael.

rofl the best line from last night was one of our druids.

"man i was wondering why my healing touches were casting so fast, i thought i was hitting the wrong button " :P

Hello,
Gratz for all your progress in BWL.

My guild has just killed vael this week, but we have some problems with Lashlayer. We try to clean the trash before but it always repop and we couldn't find a safe spot to fight him whitout aggro groups of welps and dragonkins. Is there a way to stop the pop of welps or we have to fight him with?
Our best try his at 64%, but it seems hard to fight him with welps and dragonkin coming.

The things i wanted to know is if you fight him with or without adds, and if it's possible to stop the repop of trash?

Thanks gl with firemaw :)

Positioning is a big part of the fight.

There is no way to stop the respawning of the mobs in the area. When Broodlord dies, they stop respawning.

On my server we are the top horde guild and are very friendly with the top guild on alliance. We talk and hack around in each others vent and they are a very skilled guild and very knowledgable (Death and Taxes).

Recently we have been talking about the randomness of Burning Adrenaline. They are pushing very hard that it is totally random, and we are saying this cannot be the case.

They state this because apparently people that shouldn't be getting bombed are. I have a hard time believing this because the first few ba's for us tend to go on certain people. These names pop up alot and they are usually dps'ers or priests dropping big time prayers of healing. I think the alliance may be getting mislead by their aggro reducing blessing and missing something.

Also, when we had our tanks hang low on the aggro list, they didn't get any BA's. (granted we only got about a minute into the fight because of a bad breath/knockback). We are going back in to test it again, but from the wording of your post as "tis no fluke" i would assume that the randomness of this fight is a myth you guys dispelled with your tactics.

I cannot believe that with all the complaints blizzard is getting and all the tweaking of this encounter they would make this fight a coin toss to see if your tanks died. Hopefully some specific testing tonight will give us our answer. If the burning adrenaline is as we think, better execution of our strategy should give us a win ;)