The WotLK profession thread - Page 116

Cuer · 03/13/09, 5:45 PM

A lot of profession changes are now listed in the updated PTR patch notes. Some new/updated (either from this PTR patch or the last) details:

Alchemy
* You can now sometimes find Alchemist's Caches from bosses in Ulduar. Only players with an Alchemy skill of 425 or higher can loot these secret caches.

Blacksmithing
* Added a new recipe for the Titansteel Spellblade, an epic one-handed caster dagger, available from trainers.
* Added new recipes for epic gear, found rarely on Ulduar bosses. These recipes are unbound and can be traded.

Cooking
* A new recipe has been added to cooking trainers for making Black Jelly, using several Borean Man 'O War as ingredients. While it looks disgusting, it restores more health and mana than the highest level food.
* Ingredients such as Spices, Apples, and the like have been removed from most cooking recipes.
* Players no longer need to complete the Clamlette Surprise quest to gain Artisan cooking. The quest now offers the unique recipe, Clamlette Magnifique. If you already completed the quest, you can visit Dirge Quickcleave in Gadgetzan to learn this recipe (for free).
* Several Northrend recipes were given greater skill up ranges to make it easier to reach 450 cooking skill.
* You no longer need to learn cooking from books. The trainers have finally done their reading and are able to teach you the same thing.

Enchanting
* Greatly increased the drop rate of recipes found in pre-Lich King dungeons and raids.
* Several recipes in the 250-300 skill range have been rebalanced, and the reagent requirements have been reduced.
* Some enchants now have level restrictions. Note: the enchant is never removed from the item to which it's applied, however, the player no longer receives its benefit until they reach the required level. Any enchants modified in this way have had their tooltips updated.
* The enchanting interface now correctly sorts grey recipes by skill difficulty.

Fishing
* A new (and very rare) special mount can now be caught from Northrend fishing pools.
* A new clam, the Giant Darkwater Clam, can be obtained by fishing in Wintergrasp. This mighty clam has a greatly increased chance to drop pearls, and yields up to five times the regular amount of clam meat.
* New fishing dailies are now offered from Marcia Chase in Dalaran City!
* Players are no longer required to do the Nat Pagle, Angler Extreme quest to gain Artisan fishing. The quest now offers a special superior-quality fishing pole instead. If you already completed the quest, you can visit Nat Pagle in Dustwallow Marsh to receive this new fishing pole.
* The time needed to catch fish has been reduced.
* You can now fish anywhere, regardless of skill. Every catch has the potential for fishing skill gains, but you are likely to catch worthless junk in areas that are too difficult for your skill.
* You can now fish in Wintergrasp, and the fishin' is good!
* You no longer need to learn fishing from books. The trainers have finally done their reading and are able to teach you the same thing.

Gathering Skills
* Toughness, Master of Anatomy, and Lifeblood now have level requirements equal to the level required for the corresponding skill rank: Apprentice (1), Journeyman (1), Expert (10), Artisan (25), Master (40), Grand Master (55).
* You can no longer fail when Mining, Herbing, and Skinning.

Herbalism
* Find Herbs no longer tracks Glowcaps.
* Northrend herbs now yield more herbs on average.
* The herbalism requirement for gathering Tiger Lily has been reduced to 375.
* The time it takes to gather herbs has been reduced.

Inscription
* Added a recipe to trainers for creating a level 70 superior-quality off-hand item.
* Added a recipe for creating a different level 70 superior-quality off-hand item. Scribes will find the recipe is dropped from residents of Silverbrook.
* Added around 50 new glyph recipes. These new recipes can be obtained from Books of Glyph Mastery found as world drops on Northrend monsters. Reading a Book of Glyph Mastery randomly discovers one of the newly-added recipes.
* Glyph icons have been updated so it is easy to distinguish between classes.
* Players will now learn 3 recipes the very first time they perform Northrend Inscription Research. This does not apply to players who have already discovered recipes from Northrend Inscription Research (sorry).

Jewelcrafting
* Added a recipe for Shifting Twilight Opal to the daily jewelcrafting vendor.
* Added recipes for superior-quality PVP rings and necklaces to Northrend jewelcrafting trainers.

Leatherworking
* Added a recipe for combining Borean Leather Scraps into Borean Leather. You can still use Borean Scraps from your inventory to combine them.
* Added new recipes for epic gear, found rarely on Ulduar bosses. These recipes are unbound and can be traded.
* Several lower-level items crafted by leatherworkers have received major changes to make them more appealing.

Tailoring
* Added new recipes for epic gear, found rarely on Ulduar bosses. These recipes are unbound and can be traded.
* Added recipes for superior-quality PVP cloaks to Northrend tailoring trainers.
* Several lower-level items crafted by tailors have received major changes to make them more appealing.

Copernicus · 03/13/09, 6:19 PM

* Some enchants now have level restrictions. Note: the enchant is never removed from the item to which it's applied, however, the player no longer receives its benefit until they reach the required level. Any enchants modified in this way have had their tooltips updated.

PTR Build 9684 - WotLK Wiki has a lengthy list.

It looks like just about everything that can be crafted by a profession (leg enchants) and the BoE arcanums. And Zandalar Signets, oddly enough. The rep items from TBC/WotLK are not affected.

Jebraltar · 03/13/09, 6:35 PM

Presumably this was done to prevent the various exploits that allowed these to be applied to BoA items.

4LV · 03/13/09, 8:54 PM

It also prevents twinks from using boe pants with TBC legpatches.

timski · 03/14/09, 4:55 AM

Originally Posted by sordee

I'm not sure if your analysis was able to predict this, but does caching "junk" give skillups or not?
I.e. can a person than ignore the lures at the start, sit in Dalaran, and keep getting a lot of junk to skill up to 300/400?

Provisionally, yes: Junk catches give skill-ups. Provisionally because I've only tested it around fishing skill 1.

If correct, this changes the approach to skilling up, because almost no chance of a valuable catch from Northrend waters is still probably a better investment of time than fishing in Goldshire...

Sorry · 03/14/09, 4:11 PM

I wonder why they chose not to put the new glyphs into the insciption research skill but on worlddrop books. Every longterm scribe has by now researched all there is to research so there should be plenty of sources for these new glyphs.
Any info if the books can only be looted by scribes?

Soul · 03/14/09, 4:48 PM

Originally Posted by timski

Provisionally, yes: Junk catches give skill-ups. Provisionally because I've only tested it around fishing skill 1.

If correct, this changes the approach to skilling up, because almost no chance of a valuable catch from Northrend waters is still probably a better investment of time than fishing in Goldshire...

I was under the impression that you still had to worry about getaways in addition to getting worthless junk from fishing higher level pools. So, with 130 skill fishing in a zone with 475 for no getaways, the odds of you catching anything would be (130/475)^2 = 7.5%, most of which would be junk.

Krag · 03/14/09, 6:15 PM

Originally Posted by Soul

I was under the impression that you still had to worry about getaways in addition to getting worthless junk from fishing higher level pools. So, with 130 skill fishing in a zone with 475 for no getaways, the odds of you catching anything would be (130/475)^2 = 7.5%, most of which would be junk.

I don't think there's any fish getting away anymore, you'll just catch some junk instead. I was fishing in Crystalsong Forest from skill level 1 and never got any messages about fish getting away. I did get a lot of junk though (and at that low skill surprisingly enough even a Glassfin Minnow from a pool). I also got skill ups from every junk catch the same way every fish caught in Orgrimmar gives skill at that level.

Cybsled · 03/14/09, 6:19 PM

Technically you could level up your fishing in Northrend if you wanted to with this change, although I'd still suggest the Goldshire region since you can work on getting the 15lb rare fish thats one of the fish in the "One that didn't get away" meta needed for the Salty title.

KraxisSingular · 03/15/09, 2:06 AM

Originally Posted by Krag

I don't think there's any fish getting away anymore, you'll just catch some junk instead. I was fishing in Crystalsong Forest from skill level 1 and never got any messages about fish getting away. I did get a lot of junk though (and at that low skill surprisingly enough even a Glassfin Minnow from a pool). I also got skill ups from every junk catch the same way every fish caught in Orgrimmar gives skill at that level.

What kind of junk are we talking about? I mean if you are level 80 and start fishing, then most peolpe would indeed consider the fish until Outland at least to be junk anyway. And most greys would also be worth more gold over time (fish at low level are 1 copper each?).

songster · 03/15/09, 5:07 AM

* Added a recipe for Shifting Twilight Opal to the daily jewelcrafting vendor.

Even with this, there's still one missing - Subtle Scarlet Ruby. Ho hum.

Heenk · 03/15/09, 9:29 AM

Originally Posted by KraxisSingular

What kind of junk are we talking about? I mean if you are level 80 and start fishing, then most peolpe would indeed consider the fish until Outland at least to be junk anyway. And most greys would also be worth more gold over time (fish at low level are 1 copper each?).

Looking at the wowhead PTR site, the junk you'll fish up are just 18 copper grey items.

KamPa · 03/15/09, 9:35 AM

That's a weird way to make Alchemy more appealing. It would still be suboptimal profession from min-maxing perspective, but 4 hour flasks combined with free... well, whatever will be in those caches, might save a bit money on consumables. Unless you will just get random ingredients and will be expected to share them with your fellow raiders. They could get to balancing potion mastery vs elixir, though, currently it's absolutely no contest.

KraxisSingular · 03/15/09, 4:21 PM

* Added a recipe for combining Borean Leather Scraps into Borean Leather. You can still use Borean Scraps from your inventory to combine them.

Tell me if I have misunderstood this, but this is a way to level 'low' Northrend LW right? Or have I misunderstood the text and it is in effect a nerf to Skinning without LW?

• Adoriele · 03/15/09, 4:40 PM

Originally Posted by KraxisSingular

Tell me if I have misunderstood this, but this is a way to level 'low' Northrend LW right? Or have I misunderstood the text and it is in effect a nerf to Skinning without LW?

My guess is that they want both, and that doing it as a LW will either require fewer scraps as a perk, or is just designed to give easy skillups.