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Old 07/31/08, 7:51 PM   #166
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Originally Posted by Calixtus View Post
Alchemical Blood effect on WoWheads WotlK section says flasks

It's worth noting that the phrase "that you can make" is important. If you can't actually make the relevant flask, you ain't getting no blood bonus for using it.
This makes the topic of free flasks from trash drops interesting, as alchemists won't receive the bonus from them. Unless being able to hand in a [Mark of the Illidari] is the same as being able to make an item (very unlikely). Perhaps the free ones won't be "Shattrah flask of ...." anymore and just be the normal flask, but this means they will work everywhere and not just in raid instances.

The free flasks were a big win for raiding in TBC, even though as a long-term herbalist/alchemist I am bitter that it removed a massive slice of the market for flasks. I would imagine they will be implemented again in WotLK.

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Old 07/31/08, 8:24 PM   #167
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Old 08/01/08, 6:36 AM   #168
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Originally Posted by rhen View Post
This makes the topic of free flasks from trash drops interesting, as alchemists won't receive the bonus from them. Unless being able to hand in a [Mark of the Illidari] is the same as being able to make an item (very unlikely). Perhaps the free ones won't be "Shattrah flask of ...." anymore and just be the normal flask, but this means they will work everywhere and not just in raid instances.

The free flasks were a big win for raiding in TBC, even though as a long-term herbalist/alchemist I am bitter that it removed a massive slice of the market for flasks. I would imagine they will be implemented again in WotLK.
I'm assuming Blizz are smart enough to code things so that if you can make a Flask of Pure Death, you get the blood bonus from a Shattrath Flask of Pure Death too.

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Old 08/01/08, 1:27 PM   #169
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Hmmmm. So what we see are a number of market trends that seem to suggest that Alchemy is on the decline.

1. It will be harder to 'corner the market' with rare recipes, since Blizzard limiting discovery to lower-value recipes. Similarly, I've heard that they are increasing the % drop rates for recipes that drop from bosses.

2. The Alc Blood "professional buff" doesn't look so hot, since we won't be using potions every cooldown anymore. Additionally, limiting the buff to self-made potions may reduce it's value.

3. Potion sickness will take a big slice out of the market. (Not that potions were that profitable to begin with).

4. Material costs are going up since alchemists will compete with scribes for materials.


What do you think? Will Alchemy continue to be a huge money-maker in WOLK, or has their day passed?


<<Note: Edited for tone and clarity. Thanks to those who pointed out my original mistake.>>

Last edited by Fondren : 08/01/08 at 4:33 PM.

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Old 08/01/08, 1:56 PM   #170
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Originally Posted by Fondren View Post
2. The Alc Blood "professional buff" doesn't look so hot since they are ... excluding ... token based flasks.
And you know this how? As someone has suggested before, hopefully blizzard will just make Shattrath flasks count as their non-shattrath equivalents for the purpose of Alc Blood (and same for Dalaran flasks or whatever the WotLK ones end up being).

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Old 08/01/08, 9:08 PM   #171
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Alchemical Blood has been renamed Mixology.


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Old 08/01/08, 9:14 PM   #172
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Originally Posted by Truestar View Post
Alchemical Blood has been renamed Mixology.
That's both awesome and horrific at the same time.

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Old 08/02/08, 12:39 AM   #173
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I am most interested to see what the new Melee enchant will be. There's been no hint of a mongoose/executioner -esque enchant thus far. However, it would appear that the greater savagery isn't specific to one hand or two hand.
I'd bet on that or 26 Agility.

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Old 08/02/08, 12:45 AM   #174
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Originally Posted by Midean View Post
I am most interested to see what the new Melee enchant will be. There's been no hint of a mongoose/executioner -esque enchant thus far. However, it would appear that the greater savagery isn't specific to one hand or two hand.
I'd bet on that or 26 Agility.
I'm sure they'll get around to something more interesting. They haven't even opened up any of the instances where max-level enchants would drop.

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Old 08/02/08, 3:35 AM   #175
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Originally Posted by Truestar View Post
Alchemical Blood has been renamed Mixology.
... and unless I'm entirely mistaken, has been nerfed as potions are no longer included in the effect?

Which pretty much means the effect is stats only, and thus comparable straight up to, say, Ring Enchants. Except Ring enchants would function in PvP as well. Meh. It's definitely an improvement to what we have now, but... Well... Enough of one to warrant alchemy on a main instead of an alt? That will depend on how hard it is to get the "good" recipes.

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Old 08/02/08, 3:45 AM   #176
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Originally Posted by Calixtus View Post
... and unless I'm entirely mistaken, has been nerfed as potions are no longer included in the effect?

Which pretty much means the effect is stats only, and thus comparable straight up to, say, Ring Enchants. Except Ring enchants would function in PvP as well. Meh. It's definitely an improvement to what we have now, but... Well... Enough of one to warrant alchemy on a main instead of an alt? That will depend on how hard it is to get the "good" recipes.
They could just be giving us Alchemist's Stones again.

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Old 08/02/08, 4:18 AM   #177
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Originally Posted by Midean View Post
I am most interested to see what the new Melee enchant will be. There's been no hint of a mongoose/executioner -esque enchant thus far. However, it would appear that the greater savagery isn't specific to one hand or two hand.
I'd bet on that or 26 Agility.
I'll be interested to see how or if they will try and balance two handed weapon enchants in light of Fury warriors with Titan's Grip. Or if they will just accept the fact that TG specced warrioprs can get 2 x 2handed enchants is part of the bvenefit of TG.

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Old 08/02/08, 5:30 AM   #178
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Originally Posted by Jheherrin View Post
I'll be interested to see how or if they will try and balance two handed weapon enchants in light of Fury warriors with Titan's Grip. Or if they will just accept the fact that TG specced warrioprs can get 2 x 2handed enchants is part of the bvenefit of TG.
I don't think this is a concern at all, since Crusader, Mongoose and Executioner are all usable by DW classes.

We know the 2H-only Savagery is getting an update in WOTLK, but since Mongoose is already better than Savagery, I don't see how dual Greater Savagery is going to be a problem

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Old 08/02/08, 8:32 AM   #179
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Originally Posted by Axanor View Post
They could just be giving us Alchemist's Stones again.
That sounds fairly likely. Hopefully tiered with upgrades for scaling.

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Old 08/02/08, 1:24 PM   #180
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Originally Posted by Calixtus View Post
That sounds fairly likely. Hopefully tiered with upgrades for scaling.
The power of it would still be greatly diminished since you can only use 1 potion because of the potion sickness...

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