Ah, I was wondering if I was overlooking something. I guess I was thrown off by how small scale something like this means for intra-profession trading compared to how JC seems set up.

The wording on them led me to believe that they were a permanent item you can use to create injectors, unlike the current ones. Would explain their cost as well.

<edit>Just looked it up on WoWHead, seems it produces 5 kits for the mats, making them still sellable, but without the need for the pots for the engineer, which is a nice convenience I guess.

Sounds great. I always preferred the one time big investment instead of the constant new ones. Being able to refill or just create injectors sounds very good.

Looks more like you get 5 converters, which you can trade to other people.
The converter then uses 20 normal potions and converts these to injectors, but gets used up itself. (Only reason it would stack up to 5)

Healing Injector Kit
Edit: weird.

Use [ url="http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=37567"]Healing Injector Kit[ /url ] for now as [ item ] doesn't work for wotlk.wowhead.com.

[Healing Injector Kit]
[Mana Injector Kit]

When you take in consideration it creates 5 at once, and the Crystallized Water is wotlk's equal to a Mote of Water they should come out about even with their current expense.
However, there is no longer any need for the engineer to clear a lot of bag slots to handle all the recipient's potions.

Cut/pasting interesting things from the beta forums in regards to Engineering. A lot of it is buggy at the moment (skillups, only one ammo/craft, no cooldowns on abilities, long craft times, etc), so don't assume that anything will remain the same.

WoW Forums -> Engineering Feedback Thread

Also, Engineers are probably getting a Gadgetzan Portal - Wormhole: Gadgetzan - Spell - World of Warcraft

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In Embroidery news, Lightweave Embroidery - Spell - World of Warcraft is reported to have a 45 second cooldown and 50% proc rate, while Darkglow Embroidery - Spell - World of Warcraft has a 75 second cooldown and 35% proc rate - WoW Forums -> Tailoring Embroideries - Stats

No beta account, so I can't confirm if they're a BoP perk for tailors.

I would hope so to keep the feel of engineering alive. And I hope it isnt the only 'wormhole' they decide to put in the game. Area 52 would be tremendously useful.

It does say that it "should" get you and your party to Gadgetzan, so I'd imagine that there probably is some random effect.

Its somewhat nice to get to CoT I guess. Is there any mention of an Everlook wormhole? Though that one would seem to me a tad useless. I guess the Gadget one will have a value depending on how easy/hard it is to get to CoT from Northrend. I guess for new players it'll be nice since the port from Shatt requires a fairly high rep with KoT that probably won't be feasible to get (for death knights for example). I wonder if it'll have that backfire of porting you high in the air like the regular one does....seems kinda mean to kill your party while you parachute cloak down :P

But it would fit Engineering so perfectly...

Indeed. Just visualizing it (and the "oops, sorry" afterwords) made me laugh.

According to MMO-Champion BlueTracker - Content Patch Before Wrath of the Lich King Inscription will be available in TBC in the next major content patch. Along with other things like talents and arenas, but this is the profession thread. The major implication is that if you intend to re-roll your profession you can get a head-start on it, saving you as much as several hours of leveling time when WLK hits.

Specifically, they state that: It's also stated that there will be Inscription trainers put into the standard major cities, just like the other professions.

This should certainly keep the Herbalists busy, and boost the prices of anything related to Inscription.

Inscription will be added soon then, I'm hoping glyphs will also be available right away.


I'm more worried about the LW nerf however. Tinnitus will make drums a lot less valuable, and any guilds currently struggling with brutallus might see their total DPS drop a fair bit. It remains to be seen how much the new talents, and perhaps glyphs can offset that though.

And I do have to wonder how people will kill Illidan with the changes to Shield Block vs Sheer.

Have they sorted out the Potion Sickness yet ? Or will that impact Raiders too ?

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I actually misread the portal Gadgetzan thing. Was wondering what the nifty bit about it would be when Engineers can already teleport there until the 'portal' bit dawned. Still not sure what the great part about it is when there's a portal to CoT from Shattrath.

Paladin tanks ftw?

How useful will the Shattrath portal be at level 80, when your hearth stone is set to Dalaran and you want to go and run CoT: Stratholme?

This may seem farfetched, but maybe, just maybe, a new portal to the place will be added in Dalaran?

There are portals in Dalaran to Ironforge, Stormwind, Darnassus, Exodar and Shattrath City.

Weren't there also some rings you could buy that let you port to Dalaran? Could mitigate the need to keep your hearth there as well assuming said rings are still around.

It'd a few minutes work to change the cooldown on Sheer. That's the kind of change which is quick and easy to make.

That's Shear madness!


The Shattrath-->Caverns portal NPC really took a lot of value out of (gnomish) engineering. None of the goblin towns are anywhere that makes having a portal there exciting, especially with all the new ways to get to/from Dalaran.