Ah yes, so Hunters are a special case that doesn't need attention while other classes shouldn't pay to play Arena? Is that it? And I trust you know how much the current best ammo costs, and at the same time I assume that you don't actually want Hunters to play with less than their best ammo (yay for selfgimping).

Warlocks can in theory soul drain their opponents, it might not happen of course. But there is no option for Hunters. And calling it out to us knowing we would pay when we rolled it, is just not fair. Ammo prices have gone up and up and up. They are no longer just a little bit, the prices are pretty damn huge in comparison to what others pay. Fair? No.

It is like telling Pallies, 'well you gear breaks down faster in Arena, live with it.' Even playing field indeed.

I've been debating which profession to pick up for leveling(keeping enchanting because it's too much of a pain to skill up again). I was planning on going with mining for maximum gold, but I'm no so sure anymore with http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...scavenging.jpg

I was planning on picking up tailoring at 80. Now I'm wondering if it might be better to get that for leveling. The advantage is that you don't have to stop and mine ore nodes which slows down leveling a bit. The extra cloth will probably not equal the AH value of mining though.

Frostweave isn't exactly difficult to come by, either, it drops in pretty huge quantities as it is (unless they plan to reduce it to make the scavenging a bit more attractive). Plus, everyone will be levelling jewelcrafting/blacksmithing/engineering so mining materials will probably make you a small fortune. Not a hard choice, really.

...Er did you not read the thread or something? Negg originally wrote:

Then you wrote:

Then Negg wrote:

What Negg was getting at in his original post was Arena-only costs, not costs associated with specific classes. Ammo is a hunter class cost, not Arena only. Hunters spend ammo in all PvE and PvP instances. All classes have something to pay for, it's the original class design, from Arcane Powder to Symbol of Kings. There's really no need to get so uptight about this.

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Pick up leatherworking for leveling. You'll still earn a fair bit of money, and you'll get a bit more DPS squeezed out with the crit rating, increasing your leveling speed.

When I inspected another player with a non-enchanting character, their ring read:
So it seems the Enchanting/Ring issue with respect to profession is being addressed.
Only the enchant part was reddened out for me.

What I meant was that Blizzard will make sure that Arena players will not need to keep on investing in potions or anything, Arena has to stay free and clear of any costs (as much as possible), so the Arena-only potions are a one time investment and then you can use them forever.

And the comment was mostly meant as smear to the cheap-welfare institute that Arena is.

Very good change. The less of this "spent insane amount of time for a tiny upgrade things" exist the better.

He (or she, apologiesinadvance) is most likely refering to leveling the profession, enchanting the relevant rings, then dropping the profession and releving something else. Then, once you have new rings, you drop a profession, relevel enchanting, enchant your new rings, and so on, and so forth.

It was discussed a few pages ago that while this method would be tedious/expensive/time consuming, it would not be an impossible way of gaining access to the profession bonuses of multiple professions at the same. Thus, having the bonus in question disable itself for players without the profession - as appears to be the case with the rings - is a Good Thing™.

The reference here is to the fact that you currently do not need to remain an enchanter to retain the benifit from the ring enchants.
This allows people to level enchanting to enchant two end-game rings for whatever stats they need, then drop enchanting and instead take whatever profession they choose without losing the use of the enchants on the rings.

Edit: Calixtus beat me to it.

If that was the spirit of the post then sure. The implication I got was that they were saying that it took an insane amount of time for a nominal upgrade, which is patently false. Enchanting, out of all of the crafting professions, is almost undoubtedly the easiest to level, unquestionably for Rogues, and getting an extra +8 to all stats is certainly not a tiny upgrade by any means.

Although to some people the money to level enchanting repeatedly isn't a real issue, you can't claim it's not a huge commitment (not in time, but in gold) just because all you have to do is dump x thousand gold on enchanting mats on the AH. Also, I don't know about rogues but my mage gets about 1% DPS out of 2x12 dmg enchants, that's thousands of gold for 1/3 of the boost a flask for 50g gives me - I think that fits the theme of Hildegard's post pretty well.

You seem to be taking that post far too literally - it fits Hildegard's dislike for "spent insane amount of time for a tiny upgrade things" design as expressed in the "About Design" topic and in that regard it's certainly very true, even tho it's not technically "time" that's the resource in question for bleeding edge raiders who currently revelevel enchanting for new rings, but rather "money".

One can argue about the extent to which the game allows people to dump a metric ton of resources on small upgrades, but people keeping profession perks without having the profession (anymore) seems to be too much, and Blizzard apparently agrees.