The WotLK profession thread - Page 54

Threep · 09/19/08, 8:57 AM

Originally Posted by Prinsesa

Most likely for something farther down the line. We shouldn't really expect a resist fight in the first WOTLK raid, but something like Sindragosa, which is probably one of the last bosses before Arthas is a distinct possibility, in the same way that Mother Shaz is one of the last bosses before Illidan.

The Hundred Club - Achievement - World of Warcraft

This achievement makes it clear that frost resist is intended on Sapphiron.

Sydane · 09/19/08, 10:01 AM

Just the auras give over 100 frost resist. One would assume that even if no one in the raid is wearing any Frost Resist gear, having the aura/totems up would make it a good bit easier, so the achievement would make sense even in that context. Though it could hint that Naxx will actually hit live a good bit more difficult than it is now (but that seems increasingly unlikely).

Feorthas · 09/19/08, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Threep

The Hundred Club - Achievement - World of Warcraft

This achievement makes it clear that frost resist is intended on Sapphiron.

It is also very possible that Frost resist will only be required for the 25 man version of the raid, seeing that there is no lesser version of the achievement for the 10m size (as of yet). That alone--resist fights--would be a fairly decent way of justifying higher ilevel items in the 25m raids simply because those fights tend to be rather... Annoying.

Copernicus · 09/19/08, 10:41 AM

Engineering goggles - Engeneering Goggles now have stats (added pics of all goggles)

Also, it looks like Tailoring and Leatherworking leg armor perk is a reduced cost for the epic version. I'm not seeing the "buffed" leg armors any more. For actual unique items, leatherworking has Fur Lining and Tailoring has Embroideries.

I'm also not seeing any new Drums recipes from WotLK any more. And the current drums reduce in effectiveness over level 70.

Schniepel · 09/19/08, 10:49 AM

The materials for the goggles seem a lot harder to come by than they used to in TBC, since Titanium bar is kind of the new Arcanite with a 4 day Alchemy transmute. On the other hand epic goggles where added after release of TBC which made the materials more available to begin with.

Douglas · 09/19/08, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by Feorthas

It is also very possible that Frost resist will only be required for the 25 man version of the raid, seeing that there is no lesser version of the achievement for the 10m size (as of yet). That alone--resist fights--would be a fairly decent way of justifying higher ilevel items in the 25m raids simply because those fights tend to be rather... Annoying.

Unless I'm misreading things, that achievement is for the 10m size. When a raid is listed as "normal", that's 10m, and when it's listed as "heroic", that's 25m. This achievement states "normal", so it's talking about 10m, not 25m.

Or am I misunderstanding things?

Feorthas · 09/19/08, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Douglas

Unless I'm misreading things, that achievement is for the 10m size. When a raid is listed as "normal", that's 10m, and when it's listed as "heroic", that's 25m. This achievement states "normal", so it's talking about 10m, not 25m.

Or am I misunderstanding things?

You're probably right---I read the achievement last night so I'm probably remembering what it said incorrectly although I'd swear it mentioned the 25 man Sapph and not the 10.

Darkrenown · 09/19/08, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Sydane

Though it could hint that Naxx will actually hit live a good bit more difficult than it is now (but that seems increasingly unlikely).

It's not impossible though. I seem to remember the entry level raids in the TBC beta were all pretty easy for most of the testing period but then recieved massive difficulty buffs just before launch. Hopefully blizz learned from that and won't pull something like it again though.

Shmanel · 09/19/08, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Schniepel

The materials for the goggles seem a lot harder to come by than they used to in TBC, since Titanium bar is kind of the new Arcanite with a 4 day Alchemy transmute. On the other hand epic goggles where added after release of TBC which made the materials more available to begin with.

Titanium Bar - has a regular smelting recipe in addition to the transmute cooldown. Other than that the mats are quite comparable (4 Eternals vs Primal Nether and raw metal bars vs crafted eng. items)

PSGarak · 09/19/08, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Steelfleece

I should note that the hog and the chopper don't seem to even have anything to do with Engineering at the moment--it appears anyone can buy them for 5g from a vendor outside the Engineering trainer. Even if they have no Engineering skill whatsoever.

But that's probably just temporary given that there are recipes for them shown there...though I don't know where those recipes are in-game yet (may not exist).

Unclear whether it's intentional or not. As counter-evidence, I present
Get to the Choppa! - Achievement - World of Warcraft
Note that there are no achievements requiring (primary) professions. If this was included, and intentional, then the mounts are intended to be available to non-engineers as well. It could be a placeholder, and they could change their mind. My pet theory is that they will be crafted by engineers but still not require engineering. I fully expect them to sell like hotcakes, for much more than the cost of a normal mount.

Macblade · 09/19/08, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Shmanel

Titanium Bar - has a regular smelting recipe in addition to the transmute cooldown. Other than that the mats are quite comparable (4 Eternals vs Primal Nether and raw metal bars vs crafted eng. items)

The regular method of smelting titanium is from titanium ore, whereas the transmute uses other types of (presumably more available) ore. So depending on the rarity of titanium ore drops this could be a sticking point. At least I hope that it is rare as a 4 day cooldown that is as valuable as say primal earth -> primal life is right now would be kinda lame.

Xaev · 09/19/08, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Feorthas

It is also very possible that Frost resist will only be required for the 25 man version of the raid, seeing that there is no lesser version of the achievement for the 10m size (as of yet). That alone--resist fights--would be a fairly decent way of justifying higher ilevel items in the 25m raids simply because those fights tend to be rather... Annoying.

That is the ten man version of the achievement.

Mideci · 09/19/08, 4:23 PM

Originally Posted by kysta

AFAIK there aren't any BoP cloth sets for tailors, the magic carpet is just a silly toy that doesn't really offer anything, bag making/gear crafting is far less profitable than JC in my experience, as gems are basically a consumable while tailored gear is needed once per character at most. I can't find the BoP spellthread on wowhead, but I've been told that it is the same as the BoE version except it is cheaper to make.

So really, the comparison is embroideries vs BoP gems + JC trinkets. I am about to pick professions myself and embroideries don't really look that amazing to me, I'd much rather have the JC BoP gems or the enchanting ring enchants, the leather working wrist enchant, or extra sockets from blacksmithing.

Surely tailoring is going to get a BoP cloth set, no? I mean it'd be pretty stupid to go from the admittedly overpowered regime of TBC to absolutely nothing in Wrath and I don't believe that's what they intend at all.

I suspect the itemization/profession folks are not at all done yet with the professions and that's why you haven't seen this yet. Witness things like the apparently craftable leatherworking PVP gear from the other day, the resist gear, and whatever else has yet to be added.

Sydane · 09/19/08, 4:41 PM

Enchanting is getting a BoP wand, Inscription seems to be getting a BoP offhand, the engineering goggles are in game now, blacksmithing clearly has weapons again (possibly even a caster one though it could just be a BoE), and there are blue BoP tailoring items already. As such it's a near certainty there will be an epic set as well. Certainly won't be as overpowered as the FSW set was, but one would think it would still be better than the Naxx-10 gear at least. I still expect some sort of variant to the Primal Nether mechanic to be implemented, even if it is done in a way similar to the Northern Spices and Dragon's Eyes with dailies.

Steelfleece · 09/19/08, 5:03 PM

Originally Posted by PSGarak

Unclear whether it's intentional or not. As counter-evidence, I present
Get to the Choppa! - Achievement - World of Warcraft
Note that there are no achievements requiring (primary) professions. If this was included, and intentional, then the mounts are intended to be available to non-engineers as well. It could be a placeholder, and they could change their mind. My pet theory is that they will be crafted by engineers but still not require engineering. I fully expect them to sell like hotcakes, for much more than the cost of a normal mount.

I wasn't really saying that only engineers would be able to use them, but that they probably wouldn't be sold by a vendor for 5g :P

They'll probably at least take Engineering to make.