evisania

Thought I'd give a quick update on my WOTLK profession leveling experiences so far. Herbalism is already capped at 450, mostly just from gathering herbs in Borean Tundra. Seems a bit odd that it is that easy, but I won't complain. I guess their logic is that since you really don't get much of a bonus from the skill level itself, they can constrain your profits based on whether you can harvest herbs in the higher level zones or not. The gathering of crystalized life (the new primal) has been okay, with probably close to 2 primals worth while leveling.

I've managed to get Alch to 400 just with those herbs, but am hitting the point where I need some from other zones to level further. Haven't found anyone with the saronite yet to start titanium transmutes.

Fishing has been kind of a let down because I'd heard that the speed at which the skill levels had improved. I've seen no indication of that. However, it has helped me level my cooking skill and pull in a few crystalized waters.

I've had 3 BOP cooking recipes drop while doing quests or grinding. They seem to be limited to 'fun' recipes, like [Haunted Herring], [Last Weeks Mammoth], and [Tasty Cupcake]. I have cooking at 400, with all recipes green and no more available from the trainer. I haven't seen any BOE recipes on vendors yet so I'm assuming the rest are drops or earned through the cooking daily.

"This is no game. This is real. It’s as real as a beggar squatting by the side of the road, begging, and then you realize, uh-oh, he’s not begging."

 

KraxisSingular

Will chime in here.

I dropped Engineering for Skinning (to get LW up easily) and reached 450 last night without really trying. It is easy, you get skillups fairly fast, even from green skins. And most importantly, there are dead mobs everywhere... literally everywhere. It is really hard to leave the dense areas with loads of skinable mobs. I spent 25 minutes near the elevator at Vengeance Hold just skinning the Wargs people killed. It was silly. Got some 150 leathers (boo on scaps, though they don't need LW to combine any longer and that's good).

Fishing still sucks. Thought they had changed the skillup parameters. Was sorely mistaken and have only leveled once in around 30 catches. I hope I'm just unlucky as such a rate is painful. But it did help Cooking a lot.

 

kalbear

I tried to find a reasonable guide for leveling leatherworking in Wrath but did not find anything here or elsewhere. So I took a crack at it:

Thinktank leatherworking guide

In particular I don't like how difficult it is to get past 415, and how expensive it would be to level past 425. Yet I've not found any recipes that would get there. Any suggestions?

ETA: sorry about that; I didn't realize that heavy borean leather was trainable at 390, not 375. Wowhead is still very incomplete right now.

 

Pstar

Is it true that the JC profession dailies don't give XP as indicated by wowdb? If so, that really sucks. Having to do chores, i mean daily quests, is bad enough on your way to 80 without getting xp for them.
And I further read that you can only do one of them per day? And there's nowhere else to obtain them, no world drops or anything, aside from a few heroic boss drops?

The whole reason you pick JC is because you don't want to do stupid dailies for money. I think the introduction of dailies into BC was a monster economics nerf, and frankly it was one that I didn't need. Now I have to log in and do these repetitive quests every day for a year to get the recipes? This is supposed to be fun? What a bunch of crap.

Am I missing something here?

 

Okimi

Just did one, received 21400 xp, 6g 50s, a token and 250 rep with Kirin Tor.

 

Ashaera

Still on 375 jc.
I had like 4 bop patterns drop for me in Storm Peaks & Icecrown. Not sure if they are random or bound to specifik mobs, but drop chance seems fairly high.

After running 4 heroics I got another 3 jc patterns, again very high drop rates or perhaps its a guaranteed drop.

 

Jagiya

I was fishing in the waters outside Violet Hold and I fished up a [Rusty Prison Key]. I noticed that one of the sewer gates in the water in front of me had been torn open, and inside it was a box. WoWHead comments confirmed that this key was used to open the box, which contained a BoE Blue, among other things.

However, when I approach the box, I can't interact with it whatsoever.
Has anyone else had any experience with it?

 

evisania

In addition to a fun pvp zone, Wintergrasp appears to be a decent place to gather ore and herbs. Right now there aren't many players in this zone and the resources are fairly plentiful. Once you get to Dalaran you can get here, so it's convenient if you're still in the low 70s.

I've gathered high level herbs and seen lots of saronite nodes and some rich saronite and titanium nodes today. The mobs are level 80, but you can take them out with seige equipment or have a pet/friend pull the mob while you grab the node.

"This is no game. This is real. It’s as real as a beggar squatting by the side of the road, begging, and then you realize, uh-oh, he’s not begging."

 

Mem

Just wanted to add, that the cheap LW only leg enchants are still there. Which means that an additional benefit of this profession is a more or less unlimited supply for leg enchants (the AP/crit enchant costs 2 nerubian chitins which is more than dirt cheap).

 

Crow

There is a nice summary of proffesion gains in this thread on page 35: The WotLK profession thread . Regardless of the fact that this list needs a little update, some of you might find it an interesting read and it is sort of hard finding this useful information on page 35 out of 54.

 

KraxisSingular

Not only that, you get access to the best leg enchant right away at 400. But only the medium BoE version. Seeing the troubles I have hit in regards to mats (I'm not that interested in farming non-Skinning mats while I level) this could be an issue for early raiding.

 

Abnell

Is anyone aware of any plans to have inscription recipes drop in instances or be obtainable as rep rewards, like the patterns/recipes/schematics etc of all other professions? It would be quite nice to have a goal oriented way of advancing the profession and I fail to see why Blizzard has made it so the only way to learn new glyphs is through a 20 hour cooldown research ability.

 

erragal

I'd say that's the one thing they missed the boat on for all the professions. From what i can see only JC and Cooking utilize dailies in order to learn new recipes. Enchanting has to purchase their formula with Large Dream Shards: Armor enchants cost 4, Weapon enchants cost 10. It seems like a fairly lazy way to do it, when they could have put a daily or research formula in. JC still has a few recipes that are rep rewards as well and I have not found any rep reward enchanting or inscription formula.

There's definitely a significant monetary investment for enchanting in this expansion. I've been fed approximately 120-150 greens/blues in addition to all of my own green quest drops; I also purchased 60 infinite dust and 15x Greater Cosmic essence. All of those materials were only enough to barely reach 430 enchanting with the next leveling recipes becoming ridiculously expensive.


To follow up with Roywyn's observations earlier: Fire Seeds are not working. I bug reported it and would suggest all herbalists do so. Fire Leaf does work properly with the appropriate penalty and attack power buff. The spawn rates on these only seem tied to each other and not the other herbs in the zone so they should be very quick to farm once they're working properly.

 

Draele

As far as Tailoring is concerned I hope they continue in the spirit of TBC and have raid-acquired patterns for BoP items. I like the fact that they offer slightly better stats than items dropped in the zone, but at a significant cost. One thing I wish they would change, however, is the random drop nature. Blizzard could easily put these type of patterns on the Badge of Valor vendor for a fairly trivial cost. IE if you have a crafting profession, you're raiding a certain tier of an instance enough to get, say 10 badges, and are willing to shell out the cash you would always have access to these nice items.

Rantings of the Afflicted, a Warlock blog: http://draele.blogspot.com/

 

Rodandwa

I'm completely confused by the magic carpet listings on the various sites (wowhead, thottbot). How many versions of the carpet made it to live? What skill are they trained at?

I see a regular speed, an epic speed (Magnificent) and then 3 timer-cloth versions. Where are the recipes obtained? Have they been removed from the game and consolidated?

 

Hobbes

It cost me about 50k gold to level enchanting to 450 (server first). That includes leveling a miner to smelt saronite, an alchemist to transmute a titanium bar, and a blacksmith to create a titanium rod. I also bought herbs for my scribe to create stacks of [Armor Vellum III] -- not strictly required, but it helps recoup some of the initial investment through selling the enchanted scrolls.

Being on a PvE server, I bought out about 400 greens from both the Alliance and Horde AH. The bottleneck was a shortage of weapons needed for a higher droprate on Cosmic Essences. Beyond about 430, I bought out blues at an average of 200g each to DE for dream shards. Fortunately the recipe [Formula: Enchant Gloves - Armsman] can get to 450 without the use of Abyss Crystals.

 

Balog

Can any LWers confirm if drums have been removed totally from level 80 content, or if they are merely on a "once per fight" mechanic like potions?

 

Rivkah

Drums just don't affect anyone level 80 or above. If you look at the item description you can see.

 

Stoical

[Drums of Battle], [Drums of Restoration], and [Drums of War] all explicitly state they do not affect level 80 targets.

(edit: I'm too slow.)

 

Jagiya

Regarding 400 cooking: Do we really have to make a few dozen [Great Feast]s? Or am I missing something?

One of my guildies scored a [Damaged Necklace] yesterday, which provided me with a (level 77) quest to donate 1x[Chalcedony] in order to recieve 1x[Dalaran Jewelcrafter's Token]. Pretty much a free token, very nice. I was also very surprised to recieve a BoP JC Recipe lastnight which has a 1% chance to drop from any Mammoth in Northrend. ([Accurate Monarch Topaz])

After discovering this, I decided to put together a list of all non-vendor BoP JC recipes:

• [Design: Accurate Monarch Topaz] - Any Mammoth in Northrend
• [Design: Deadly Monarch Topaz] - Keristrasza in Heroic Nexus
• [Design: Defender's Twilight Opal] - Sjonnir The Ironshaper in Heroic Halls of Stone
• [Design: Fierce Monarch Topaz] - Ingvar the Plunderer in Heroic Utgarde Keep
• [Design: Defender's Twilight Opal] - "Stormforged" mobs in Storm Peaks
• [Design: Infused Twilight Opal] - Anub'arak in Heroic Azjol'Nerub
• [Design: Fractured Scarlet Ruby] - Nascent Val'kyr in Storm Peaks
• [Design: Precise Scarlet Ruby] - Herald Volazj in Heroic Ahn'Kahet
• [Design: Thick Autumn's Glow] - Cyanigosa in Heroic Violet Hold
• [Design: Radiant Forest Emerald] - "Frostfeather" mobs in Storm Peaks
• [Design: Timeless Forest Emerald] - Prophet Tharon'ja in Heroic Draktharon Keep
• [Design: Austere Earthsiege Diamond] - King Ymiron in Utgarde Pinnacle (Any difficulty)
• [Design: Eternal Earthsiege Diamond] - Loken in Halls of Lightning (Any difficulty)

That's all I could find for now. All of the other recipes are Token Rewards, Reputation Rewards, or purchased from a Trainer.

 

• typobox

Is the Damaged Necklace quest repeatable? I had a necklace ready to go when I hit 77, which might be considered a bit of a problem - why are you able to get these so long before you're able to use them? Not going to complain, though...

 

Rivkah

I'm not sure you need to be 77 to do it, just that it's considered a level 77 quest? I have confirmed you can't use them at 70 but it may be usable at a little lower level perhaps.

 

Draele

So is it possible at all to even reach 450 Tailoring with green patterns? I'm stuck at 449 after making at least 20 Frostweave Bags and Frostsavage Boots. Bad RNG or simply not possible to cap it with green patterns?

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Dehn

Has anyone seen any BoP blacksmith patterns? When checking at Wowhead there is a distinct lack of them.

 

• typobox

I tested it every level up to 77. 77 is a requirement, not just the quest level.