hello EJ, i was wondering what the best setup on mages for pvp, when i hit 60 im not going to be running mc or any of that bullshit basically because i dont have time between work and college, so im looking to be pvpin when im actually online, my current talents are 18/0/28 at 55 and im gonna put the rest in frost untill 60 cuz frost is pretty good for pve, any help you can send would be appreciated a lot, thanks

good luck using fire for PvP against anyone who gears for PvE. Most everyone who runs MC and beyond will have ~100 FR while not in their fire resist set, and upwards of 250 when in FR gear.

The ability to create crystal water usually designates a quality style of play.

Are you guys all too lazy to swap out FR gear?

No, it's just that a lot of quality FR gear is also quality PvP gear, and a lot of tier 1 gear has FR anyway. That being said you can do just fine as a fire mage (look at tseng) but I'm not about to spec an enemy. ;)

Dood, in my PvP gear I have 150FR minimum. I can easily swap in a couple of pieces if I'm stealthing to a mage and be at 250.

GM contacts up our innate fire resist

I wrote out a long post but accidentally deleted it.

So if I were you id go fire arcane 30-21.

Good all around build that has some pop to it. Seeing as most allies dont have decent FR yet (only rogues ive noticed) you wont have to worry too much about resists. I'm fire and I really dont have a problem.


/wave bad

DM trinket = 10fr
tier 1 hat with libram = 30fr
tier 1 belt = 7 fr
Drakesfire Epaulets = 10 fr
Pyremail wristguards of the eagle= 10 fr
dragonslayers signet = 10fr
Storm Gauntlets = 10 fr
+5 to all resists on cloak = 5 fr

So those are all normal wear most of the time items, and im cruising at 92FR. If I wanted to actually sacrifice stats I could get a hell of a lot more.

even with only 92, a fire mage would have problems burning through my 3800 hp before I killed him.

Ice is just superior currently, since no one has any frost resist, plus its useful in PvE

The only time I have trouble with people is when they're at 175+ FR, 92 FR does a lot less for you than you really think. Plus, like Ayle said, there's not a lot of people running around with a whole lot of FR on.

Frost has a lot better survivability than fire, but fire is so much more bursty, with PoM and Pyroblast especially. Being able to frontload 3k damage before the enemy has a chance to react is nice, but being able to snare quickly and block out of sticky situations is also nice.

Really, as a mage you are a DPS class regardless of what spec you choose. I've been Fire/Arc, Ice/Arc, and now Arc/Fire. I sucked in PvP with all 3 of the specs, so you just have to kind of play the specs and see which one you enjoy the most, then go with that.

Cenarion set minus belt (27), DM Trinket (10), 2 Librams (40), +5 Resists on Cloak of Warding (5), Mark (27), + Blazefury (15), Lava belt (26).

:lol:

Damnit, beaten.

Still, this deserves a hearty :dong:

Only took you two weeks this time, you are getting faster with your comebacks!

Also, I don't know what post you're quoting but I never said I succeeded :lol:

Wow, you are certainly the tricky one.

hahahahahahaha

could you please stfu.........

*whack* Shaddup you, and back to healing. None of this nuking nonsense.

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I heard there were dr00ds in this mage thread. Confirm/deny?

I don't play for a few months and no one is there to represent fire anymore =(

30 fire 21 arc with you main stats being first and foremost +dmg, second crit, and 3rd stamina. Even with not so awesome gear you should be able to hit 200'ish +dmg, and plenty of +crit and decent hp. Your mana will be low, but that isnt a big deal in pvp.

FR really isnt a big deal unless the person you are fighting walks around in there pve FR gear. 100 FR isnt a big deal, which is the most you'll see on someone that uses pvp type gear.

Heh. My level 30 mage has +108 fire damage, so it's pretty possible to get lots of damage fairly easily. Admittedly he doesn't have much else, but it's definitely the way to go for PvP, in my opinion. Doing more than the stated tooltip in total damage is pretty nice, and I can see why Fire/Arc is effective.

Mage PvP is very interesting because you have lots of options for instant spells(fireblast, coc, Blast Wave, and IAE with a 30/21 build) along with PoM. At the same time, with proper positioning you can cast w/out being targeted(sometimes) and that can be brutally effective.