World of Warcraft - Lore & Storyline discussion [SPOILERS] - Page 153

Keldin · 03/01/09, 9:05 AM

Its a nice theory, but I think it has been discussed many times and Uldum really isn't likely to come in 3.2 or in Wrath at all. Remember the comment "Its something we take for granted". It could mean the obligatory Troll raid or... Yeah.

Verne · 03/01/09, 9:13 AM

3.2 mystery raid could also be another Caverns of Time raid, and the War of the Spider would be a fitting setting for this expansion, and it would also give us that Azjol'nerub raid.

Starfire · 03/01/09, 11:28 AM

Hmm, such a raid could also give us a battle against Yogg-Saron. That'd be interesting, a battle we know we're destined to lose.

But overall, that's an interesting route... imagine when Grim Batol is released, having a Cavern of Times for the War of Three Hammers.

Nehrak · 03/01/09, 6:12 PM

Completely random speculation: Suppose we don't kill Yogg-Saron in Ulduar, but he escapes by fleeing into Northrend? His prison suggests there's been some tunneling, given the big blood-pool that's causing saronite formations nearby. Anyone else get a "phazon" vibe from that, by the way (Metroid Prime series)?

Leviathon · 03/01/09, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Nehrak

Completely random speculation: Suppose we don't kill Yogg-Saron in Ulduar, but he escapes by fleeing into Northrend? His prison suggests there's been some tunneling, given the big blood-pool that's causing saronite formations nearby. Anyone else get a "phazon" vibe from that, by the way (Metroid Prime series)?

His death animation is him floating dead in the saronite pool so I don't think he will be escaping anywhere :p

AJAlkaline · 03/02/09, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by Leviathon

His death animation is him floating dead in the saronite pool so I don't think he will be escaping anywhere :p

He could Kael'thas it.

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Vaccine · 03/02/09, 3:12 AM

Ulduar was merely a set back.

Completely random speculation:

Should be the new title of this thread.

I've got to throw my weight behind a troll raid because no wow-expansion is complete without one. I think theres a few animals left that haven't been deified as Loa Gods and subesquently killed by their followers.

Emeraude · 03/02/09, 4:27 AM

There is a running gag at Blizzard about wanting to include Kael'thas in Icecrown for laughs. :P

Not to get ahead of the incoming patch but I wonder if the Icecrown Obelisks in Warcraft 3 will play any part in the actual Icecrown raid or opening an entrance to the instance before hand.

Spleen · 03/02/09, 4:58 AM

They could easily bring Kael back as a zombie in Icecrown Citadel. A long-winded speech would be mandatory, of course.

Camaris · 03/02/09, 6:16 AM

The bottom half of this post has images of the new VoA wing. Going by how this new wing fits into the design, there are likely eventually going the to be three bosses in there, representing 3 Tiers of gear, the same as TBC. I don't know how much of that had already been confirmed officially.

That would mean that either 3.2 gives Tier 9 and Icecrown gear works like Sunwell (non-set upgrades) or that 3.2 sees a troll instance, or something that performs a similar role (an instance with Tier 8 level side-grades for WotLK veterans and quick upgrades for latecomers, with Hard Modes for extras), and Icecrown gives Tier 9. I personally think the latter option is more satisfying.

Which brings me to more idle speculation on the Mystery Raid. Somehow, I still think it's strange that Outland has been utterly abandoned, much more so than Azeroth was in TBC. At the moment, there is absolutely nothing at all there for us to care about, and apart from a DK levelling zone, it appears to be the only truely 'dead' continent. There are still a few possibilities for that place: the other Portals leading to demon worlds, potentially undiscovered 'shards' of former Draenor, and the faint possibility of either more Twilight dragons or even Deathwing himself.

Other obvious new raid possibilities are the Chamber of Aspects and the Caverns of Time, although it's hard to see why all the Dragonflight sanctums should have something for us to kill (Blue (anti-magic Jihad), Green (Nightmare) or Bronze (Infinites) are the most likely candidates). There is at the moment no unused entrance at CoT like there was for Old Strat, but of course it remains a possibility. It would indeed be a nice chance to see the Nerubians and Anub'Arak in a more significant light than now.

Ashen · 03/02/09, 6:55 AM

I was thinking about it, and there is one raid that would be a surprise and still fit into Wrath of the Lich King's speculated original designs. It's pretty much what people are referring to in this thread, but with a small twist.

Caverns of Time: The Frozen Throne

Basically, we land on Northrend with Arthas and have to help him get to Ner'zhul. To do this, we fight the Naga and Blood Elves to set them back and move quickly to Azjol Nerub, where we help defeat Sapphiron (because the Infinites are helping him) and then descend into Azjol-Nerub with Arthas and Anub'arak and fight our way through to the Citadel. Once we get there, we fight Illidan and then one last Infinite boss on the climb up to the throne.

Tyrian · 03/02/09, 7:03 AM

Originally posted elsewhere, but better suited here: The glass moziac windows in Ulduar are an interesting design. They certainly depict organic, fleshy characters, even with naga-like characteristics (tail, trident). This is not consistent with titan crafts: inorganic, metallic creations. Could it have any significance?

A room full of these windows is in the Descent to Madness (along with moziacs resembling Yogg-Saron). Perhaps the Titans were detailing (through their art) the effects of the Curse of the Flesh. However, it's odd its done in such an attractive (almost as if it's being glorified) way. I wouldn't expect the Titans to portay twisted-deformations (via Old God curse) of their Iron creations so gracefully and artistically. Then again, even Yogg-Saron looks quite huggable in his moziac: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/.../ulduar_70.jpg

wastedyouth · 03/02/09, 7:24 AM

Originally Posted by Tyrian

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Hmm what ever happened to the Naga in north rend. I remember a write up or dev interview where the Naga were mention as being in north rend and trying to melt the ice caps. And there would be some type of story line for us to follow and find out just what they are doing/planning.

Also now could be a possible time for us to visit Uldum and find out what lies behind it's gates.

Tyrian · 03/02/09, 7:40 AM

Hmm what ever happened to the Naga in north rend.

The most likely scenario is that the naga are being saved for future content, namely the Maelstrom expansion, to keep them somewhat fresh and new when we see them again.

4LV · 03/02/09, 8:40 AM

Originally Posted by Tyrian

Originally posted elsewhere, but better suited here: The glass moziac windows in Ulduar are an interesting design. They certainly depict organic, fleshy characters, even with naga-like characteristics (tail, trident). This is not consistent with titan crafts: inorganic, metallic creations. Could it have any significance?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Naga created by "Old God X/Y/Z" after the events in the War of the Ancients, when the Well of Eternity was swallowed up and caused the Sundering? If the titans depicted Nagas in Ulduar, that must mean they either were clairvoyant or visited Azeroth some time after the Sundering.