World of Warcraft - Lore & Storyline discussion [SPOILERS] - Page 222

Vaeys · 05/16/09, 6:20 AM

Originally Posted by ildon

Azure Drake - NPC - World of Warcraft

I thought these drakes were supposed to represent the hybrid blue/nether drakes.

The Nexus Drake Hatchlings (Nexus Drake Hatchling - NPC - World of Warcraft) are blues with netherdrake abilities (the breath, the shifting out). Though the quest about them (Drake Hunt - Quest - World of Warcraft) doesn't really indicate a netherdrake connection.

Emeraude · 05/16/09, 7:28 AM

Well something from outland led to Malygos' sanity, though the novel Night of the Dragon is a little vague on specifics:

Indeed, there were even now many situations that drew his attention, situations with the potential to wreak utter havoc upon his world...and at the core of those problems were his own kind, the dragons. There was the vast rift leading into the astounding realm called Outland, a great portal that in particular both fascinated and disturbed the blue dragonflight, keepers of magic itself. From it had already come a mysterious cure for the madness that had long engulfed the blue lord. Yet although the Aspect of Magic, Malygos, was now completely lucid, Krasus did not at all like the path the leviathan's mind had now chosen.

"She Hunts for a nether dragon...in Azeroth!" Kalec blurted. "But there aren't any nether dragons in Azeroth! Those that tried to enter were destroyed by my flight at the portal to Outland! And since then, nothing passes that we do not take note of even from our sanctum..."

It's possible that Kalec is lying, or otherwise completely oblivious(Malygos sent him away from the flight since he became distant after the Sunwell affair). I think it's a SAFE bet that the Netherwing flight led to the cure, just based off the quest with Tyri and of course Metzen himself stating as such. We know SOMETHING from Outland led to it, I'd say it was the safe bet.

Ranjurm · 05/16/09, 7:31 AM

Originally Posted by Vaeys

The Nexus Drake Hatchlings (Nexus Drake Hatchling - NPC - World of Warcraft) are blues with netherdrake abilities (the breath, the shifting out). Though the quest about them (Drake Hunt - Quest - World of Warcraft) doesn't really indicate a netherdrake connection.

That sort of ability seems to be indicative of expose to high levels of unusual energies while still an egg. Nether drakes where exposed to the nether energies of outland following the sunder while the blue hatchlings were exposed to tremendous amounts of arcane energies from the nexus and EoE.

ildon · 05/16/09, 8:27 AM

Originally Posted by Vaeys

The Nexus Drake Hatchlings (Nexus Drake Hatchling - NPC - World of Warcraft) are blues with netherdrake abilities (the breath, the shifting out). Though the quest about them (Drake Hunt - Quest - World of Warcraft) doesn't really indicate a netherdrake connection.

Ah, those are the ones. I had just looked at the pictures without really trying to find the specific mob.

Leviathon · 05/16/09, 2:02 PM

Originally Posted by Emeraude

Well something from outland led to Malygos' sanity, though the novel Night of the Dragon is a little vague on specifics:

Indeed, there were even now many situations that drew his attention, situations with the potential to wreak utter havoc upon his world...and at the core of those problems were his own kind, the dragons. There was the vast rift leading into the astounding realm called Outland, a great portal that in particular both fascinated and disturbed the blue dragonflight, keepers of magic itself. From it had already come a mysterious cure for the madness that had long engulfed the blue lord. Yet although the Aspect of Magic, Malygos, was now completely lucid, Krasus did not at all like the path the leviathan's mind had now chosen.

"She Hunts for a nether dragon...in Azeroth!" Kalec blurted. "But there aren't any nether dragons in Azeroth! Those that tried to enter were destroyed by my flight at the portal to Outland! And since then, nothing passes that we do not take note of even from our sanctum..."

It's possible that Kalec is lying, or otherwise completely oblivious(Malygos sent him away from the flight since he became distant after the Sunwell affair). I think it's a SAFE bet that the Netherwing flight led to the cure, just based off the quest with Tyri and of course Metzen himself stating as such. We know SOMETHING from Outland led to it, I'd say it was the safe bet.

Well least it is a little bit of an explanation. Too bad they just didn't put any of that in game though similar to how they didn't put any quest in game about the Twilight Dragonflight.

Another area I think that was changed from the original plan is actually Sunwell and Quel'danas actually. If you look at the original concept map of the Sunwell raid it was heavily Scourge based which further explains why many of the files for Quel'danas were in the Expansion2 (WotLK) folder. I think they originally decided to push Sunwell to the next expansion but realized further down the line that they needed something to put between BT and WotLK's release (would of been better to use one of the portal worlds).

Emeraude · 05/16/09, 4:53 PM

Well even without the Scourge bosses/presence, I can't imagine that the lore changed too much if Kil'Jaeden was the last boss in both designs.

Leviathon · 05/16/09, 10:19 PM

Yea the lore probably didn't change much but it always seemed interesting when I noticed that.

I'd imagine a lot of instances though vary greatly from the original concept plans they made.

Emeraude · 05/17/09, 4:14 AM

Ok, now for something new as opposed to our repeated and drawn out to death discussions on Northrend and finally somehow ending up at ancient and forgotten lore that was scrapped. :P

Stay tuned this Monday, May 18 at 5pm EST (11pm Paris). Hardcore Warcraft lore fans are going to get a loregasm when they read the short and simple solicitation for World of Warcraft # 22 (Wildstorm) on sale August 15.

During my interview with Chris Metzen and Micky Neilson, I asked this very question and they were very elusive, and their face showed they could barely resist not answering it. Well, the wait is over. All the roads lead to World of Warcraft # 22, and it ignites a new plotline for the future of the World of Warcraft MMO expansions.

Things are getting really cool lately in the Warcraft universe, and it makes you wonder what's going to happen later on in upcoming WoW expansions.

Specially when Blizzard gets back to the Burning Legion and those 7 planets we will explore through the portals in Outland.

Seven more expansions. Warcraft is an evolving universe. It is about the Titans, the Old gods and the Burning Legion if you narrow it down.

Alliance vs Horde is just the folks in the middle between the conspiracy behind these three forces of nature. Add to that the enigmatic Naaru and their mysterious void cycle.

I remind you of a coallition of alien races against the Burning Legion -- as hinted in the Warcraft RPG: Shadow and Light. The canon is a bit in question, but can't deny they did have some info on the expansion prior to its official announcement.

We will visit these worlds ravaged by the Burning legion, and find allies in those worlds that will help us help them.

We have Draenei and Naaru that have an ability to see the future, and have mysterious prophecies. Velen saw a vision of the future: himself with red skin, helping Archimonde and Kil'jaeden conquer many worlds, and he wept and plead after this vision, wishing it never to come to pass. The Naaru heard him and that future was changed when Velen accepted the Naaru's guidance. -- prologue of WoW: Rise of the Horde

On with prophecies, we know there is a prophecy that will either bring doom to Azeroth or salvation ... Med'an. A being part Human, part Orc and part Draenei.

- Blizzplanet, Medievaldragon

Bonus, Preview to World of Warcraft #19 http://www.dccomics.com/media/excerpts/11639_x.pdf

Leviathon · 05/17/09, 4:38 AM

I doubt the next expansion (or even the one after that) will have anything to do with the Burning Legion but I know how Medievaldragon is with looking way too into things.

Kumar · 05/17/09, 1:44 PM

Well, Tomb of Sargeras is located near Maelstorm, so I would expect a Maelstorm expansion to touch on that is some way.

Leviathon · 05/17/09, 3:22 PM

Depends whether we go into the Tomb I guess. In Warcraft 3 it seemed to be pretty thoroughly collapsed by Illidan but I guess there could be a little bit of a reason made for us to go back in there.

Emeraude · 05/17/09, 5:21 PM

Originally Posted by Leviathon

Depends whether we go into the Tomb I guess. In Warcraft 3 it seemed to be pretty thoroughly collapsed by Illidan but I guess there could be a little bit of a reason made for us to go back in there.

Pfft, as if the total and utter annihilation of any area in the World of Warcraft could stop Metzen from reintroducing it later as in-tact.

Douglas · 05/18/09, 9:58 AM

Originally Posted by Leviathon

Depends whether we go into the Tomb I guess. In Warcraft 3 it seemed to be pretty thoroughly collapsed by Illidan but I guess there could be a little bit of a reason made for us to go back in there.

Actually, a CoT mission where we go in alongside Ilidan, much as we are alongside Arthas in CoT Stratholme, could be really fun, no?

Monocle · 05/18/09, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Douglas

Actually, a CoT mission where we go in alongside Ilidan, much as we are alongside Arthas in CoT Stratholme, could be really fun, no?

Be a way to bring him back without really bringing him back. Blizzard could do some retro character interaction to make up for him getting not much in BC.

Seems like either that or when Guldan was in there would work. Well other then Guldan gettign torn apart, unless.... maybe it was some players visiting back in time who really ripped him to shreads in there!

Blayze · 05/18/09, 11:51 AM

maybe it was some players visiting back in time who really ripped him to shreads in there!

Interesting, especially if Gul'dan's activities were aided by the Infinites.