IC_Dsaurfang_IntroHor01 - Join me, father. Join me and we will crush this world in the name of the scourge. For the glory of the Lich King!
IC_Dsaurfang_IntroHor02 - Stubborn and old. What chance do you have? I am stronger and more powerful than you ever were!
IC_Dsaurfang_IntroHor03 - Pathetic old Orc. Come then heroes, come and face the might of the scourge!
I meant Saurfang Senior's, before the pull. I know those aren't recorded in the mpq, and I'm alliance, so I haven't been able to check if Sr. says anything before engaging.
I meant Saurfang Senior's, before the pull. I know those aren't recorded in the mpq, and I'm alliance, so I haven't been able to check if Sr. says anything before engaging.
Yea those sound files just are not in the files yet.
The 25th issue of the World of Warcraft comic is almost here, and I'm thinking it'll be a major "one-death-per-page" slaughterfest. At least I hope so, being a fan of seeing good guys dying. The massive amount of previously unknown, still undeveloped (and, mind you, this is the last issue, so time's up) and, for the most part, discardable characters leads me to believe the new Council will be reduced to a few survivors.
Still to see if Med'han makes it through, we know the end to the prophecy Cho'gall spoke of will come true - Deathwing emerging, or at least the way for him to return:
“When the child of three realms becomes as Light, the ancient power will be released. The earth will tremble, the seas will rise up in answer, and all will be madness. A new day will dawn, bringing with it chaos or peace…
... our master is a god of chaos! Pandemonium will aid the old one’s release! To this end, we will weaken the barrier ... between Azeroth and the Elemental Plane.
This will allow our great master to reclaim its former Elemental servants ... and send them to rampage throughout our world.
The Magi of Theramore will know their source and will send the boy here to stop me. Then I—Cho’gall—will slaughter him, and the power released by his death will open the way for our master’s return!”— Cho'gall, comic #23
So I predict a short career for the hybrid-boywonder. Of all the gang, I'd say Broll, Valeera, Runetotem and Rohan may make it through.
He does seem to have a good memory for reciting prophecies. And he speaks in constant "thou salt die to thy master's power" (not literally, but he doesn't seem capable of saying things like the good ol' "Die, maggot!").
Dentarg was far more of an idiot, but these ogre magi seem to function in perma-"Yes, master" mode.
It looks like we will get the story behind the Dark Riders in the continuation of the Alliance version of the Warcraft comic. Guess it was one way for Metzen to try to actually do something with where that story just left off at in WoW and I wonder if it will be used to help start the story of the Alliance meeting the 'new' Gilneans.
Introducing Revil Kost, a priest of the Holy Light! Karlain and Revil combine forces to defend Sentinel Hill from a Defias Brotherhood attack. What are the mysterious Dark Riders hunting for in Westfall?
On sale February 17
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Another interesting thing I noticed was on the PTR when doing the Quel'delar line. When I was in the Sunwell area there were both high elf and blood elf pilgrims which makes it seem the divide between the 2 is beginning to shrink to some small degree (they both go to different sides). The representative for them is the high elf that was in Allerian Stronghold on Outland, Auric Sunchaser.
And yet the quest chain to Quel'delar involves such despicable acts as assassinating a member of the other "magi" faction, posing as him, and doing the laundry to a gnome. I smell real politik at play here.
I thought they'd put Karlain's son, Mardigan, on the shelf already, but according to lauch dates, that's issue 27, so there's no disturbance in the continuity Force.
Here's the Horde one:
The orc known as Malgar recovers from his battle wounds and awakens in Orgrimmar – the city to which he swore he’d never return. Meanwhile, the undead warlock Felgrim is ordered to join the Horde militia, but first he embarks on his own sinister mission... a personal quest that promises only one reward: blood.
On sale February 3
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Warlocks getting enlisted, desperate times indeed...And being a Forsaken, here's to treachery. Actually, I don't know how the Horde deals with warlocks anymore, they're supposed to be really shady characters - this is true for Alliance as well, I'd say, they're just not the kind of person we'd see walking the streets of Stormwind/Orgrimmar on broad daylight, perhaps. Still, seeing as in TBC there was a whole race who was fel-powered, and this is a Forsaken we're talking about, it makes sense they would at least use the "every able bodied" excuse. Also, I don't suppose Garrosh would have much issues with warlocks among his ranks - I'm not saying he'd encourage warlock training, though.
For every treacherous Warlock, you have Warlocks like the honorable Wilfred Fizzlebang(*Cackles @ Gnome Death), that actually pledge their services for their respective factions and carry out their duties.
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True enough. The warlocks outside the Collosseum themselves state their satisfaction at having their value recognized.
Lorewise, though, I can't see warlock "heroes" doing those "goody" optional quests. But, eh, RPers do their own lore, so I guess it's possible.
I know I'm reading a bit too much into it, but this is a common symptom in people and societies. What was once hated or reviled - because of having been a menace, not out of prejudice - is over the time tolerated and then integrated even when the threat level is still high.
Still, this will only translate into the game if Blizzard makes warlocks play a role in an eventual Legion Expansion. TBC was already demon-heavy and warlocks had no special role, so perhaps warlocks aren't indeed a threat anymore.
True enough? While it may be true that Wilfred Fizzlebang didn't intend to summon an Eredar Lord, he doesn't act surprised about it until Jaraxxus kills him. He cackles evilly, etc. It's pretty clear Mr. Fizzlebang was intending to betray everyone at the tournament just so he'd become famous.
I'd call it crazy show of power and need to impress more than intentional treason (it was still treason, though). He was clearly mad if he though he could control an Eredar Lord - which seems to be a common trait among summoners in general (demons, elemental lords...anything bigger than a fel guard or fire elemental is bound to mean trouble).
It's a typical display of gnomish delusion of grandeur, over-reliance on 'long shot' plans and self destructive tendencies, to be honest. It seems in line with many things gnomes have done so far (such as virus-bombing Gnomeregan, trying to create a new breed of flying mounts in Blade's Edge).
Originally Posted by XI-
In summary, TBC raiding is easy. 9/10 encounters can be summarized with 1 phrase. Stay out of the fucking fire. If this is too difficult BWL was still there last I checked, so go have at it for some practice.
Could you explain more on that Blade's Edge experiment? I never got to level an Alliance that high a level. Bionic wind serpents, perhaps?
Indeed, half the Fizzlebang catastrophe can be explained by the race-factor - no insult intended. Blood Elves seemed to go down the same road, for a while. No funny in their craziness, though.
True enough. The warlocks outside the Collosseum themselves state their satisfaction at having their value recognized.
Lorewise, though, I can't see warlock "heroes" doing those "goody" optional quests. But, eh, RPers do their own lore, so I guess it's possible.
I know I'm reading a bit too much into it, but this is a common symptom in people and societies. What was once hated or reviled - because of having been a menace, not out of prejudice - is over the time tolerated and then integrated even when the threat level is still high.
Still, this will only translate into the game if Blizzard makes warlocks play a role in an eventual Legion Expansion. TBC was already demon-heavy and warlocks had no special role, so perhaps warlocks aren't indeed a threat anymore.
One way we'll be able to tell the current state of warlocks is with how Garrosh reacts to the Burning Blade. If the Burning Blade or other ex-Shadow Council elements are still biding their time until they can bring the New Horde down, then Garrosh will likely snuff them out.
However, knowing the we beat the living hell out of the central Shadow Council in Outland and essentially broke the Legion's forces there as well, seems to me like any surviving Horde warlocks would be interested in playing nice-nice with the new Warchief. Garrosh is not going to have Thrall's patience.
Actually, it's just one quest designed to direct you to the flying mount vendor, but it's funny enough to warrant some attention. Basically, some gnome wanted to strap on gizmos on a gryphon and wants you to ask the dwarves for help in his experiments. Needless to say, he didn't stop to consider the Dwarves could disagree...
Originally Posted by XI-
In summary, TBC raiding is easy. 9/10 encounters can be summarized with 1 phrase. Stay out of the fucking fire. If this is too difficult BWL was still there last I checked, so go have at it for some practice.
Thanks, Enova. Typical gnomish self-centered behaviour. The gnome in the WoW comic, by way, supposedly went down in flames with one of his experiment - unless he survived, he was a tribute to all the gnome-haters - but would've have been much better if Meryll had got his hands on him (Meryll, being possessed by a demon, though, is quite short-fused at the moment).
Originally Posted by Mr. Crow
One way we'll be able to tell the current state of warlocks is with how Garrosh reacts to the Burning Blade. If the Burning Blade or other ex-Shadow Council elements are still biding their time until they can bring the New Horde down, then Garrosh will likely snuff them out.
However, knowing the we beat the living hell out of the central Shadow Council in Outland and essentially broke the Legion's forces there as well, seems to me like any surviving Horde warlocks would be interested in playing nice-nice with the new Warchief. Garrosh is not going to have Thrall's patience.
A while ago, I was considering drawing one one of Garrosh's praetorian guards, come Cataclyms. My idea was he'd share the "nakedness" today's elite guards for young Hellscream sport (they wear ony Tier 5 shoulders, boots, legs and bracers, I think) but with a less shamanistic and more "metal" or warrior feel to it. They'd have a huge blade instead of a huge pike and - this was the troubling part - sport a skull-paint on their face, like Ner'zhul's. Something akin to the Burning Blade blademasters at the Battle of Blackrock Spire - end of Warcraft 2. I was thinking of calling them 'Old Glory', or some variation. However, with all the talk on Garrosh growing "likeable" and so many people here assuming he yet has some room to evolve, it started seeming more and more radical an idea.
Garrosh is a nostalgic (to put it mildly) but I don't really see him welcoming those openly defiant to the new Horde. And, like Mr. Crow says, he'd likely send a "cleaning team" to Aisle Cleft of Shadows and proceed to bring traitors for dinner.
Garrosh is a nostalgic (to put it mildly) but I don't really see him welcoming those openly defiant to the new Horde. And, like Mr. Crow says, he'd likely send a "cleaning team" to Aisle Cleft of Shadows and proceed to bring traitors for dinner.
That's of course if his is not blinded by them, like his predecessor Blackhand by Gul'dan.
That's of course if his is not blinded by them, like his predecessor Blackhand by Gul'dan.
That's the thing, tho. As a Mag'har, Garrosh is probably very cognizant of the dangers of the Shadow Council, and while Grom's story didn't come back through the portal, Gul'dan's puppet trick with Blackhand and Blackhand's eventual 'retirement' by the Doomhammer would probably be known to them.
Could Garrosh be manipulated by subtle agents of the Shadow Council? It's possible, but it's in no way interesting, and as retread of prior events, it'd be sloppy storytelling.
That's the thing, tho. As a Mag'har, Garrosh is probably very cognizant of the dangers of the Shadow Council, and while Grom's story didn't come back through the portal, Gul'dan's puppet trick with Blackhand and Blackhand's eventual 'retirement' by the Doomhammer would probably be known to them.
Could Garrosh be manipulated by subtle agents of the Shadow Council? It's possible, but it's in no way interesting, and as retread of prior events, it'd be sloppy storytelling.
That's another thing I am curious about, how much fel magic do the orcs need to be around for it to start affecting them (or are they now immune to it due to the pox disease)? In Rise of the Horde it made it seem the changes happened pretty quickly just from them being around Warlocks practicing their magic. I can see him having more of a dislike and distrust for Warlocks than even Thrall.
Well, in Draenor, they all lived in tightly packed clans, all of them having Warlocks, all those warlocks constantly training. In the present time, we live in big cities, so everyone's more dispersed. Also, there are fewer locks, or at least - again - you don't find one in every corner like in Draenor.
It took some time and constant contact with a lot of fel energiy for the green tinge to settle. As long as Garrosh doesn't take his breakfast in the Cleft of Shadow, he should remain brown for a long time. The pox infection might also help.
Kirion's point is valid, though...if he gets too friendly with warlocks, at least we'll have a color alert.
It seems Med'han is going alone. Well, there go my chances of a slaughterfest. Perhaps Meryll or Aegwynn will die, but I was hoping for the whole team going to Ahn'Qiraj. Then again, Jaina has responsibilities.
On the other hand, Med'han's chances of survival look increasingly bad, if we take the prophecy into account. Still, killing Med'han would be a harsh move by the writters.
That's impossible. I mean, there's no indication that could happen, not the slightest example. Really, it's not like any of Med'han's relatives has ever returned from the dead with a message or...oh!
I wouldn't really worry about Med'an, Guardians are absurdly powerful beings, even by WoW's standards. We'll probably see a happy ending with foreshadowing about who Cho'gall's real master was IE Deathwing, and what's to come in Cataclysm.
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I wouldn't really worry about Med'an, Guardians are absurdly powerful beings, even by WoW's standards. We'll probably see a happy ending with foreshadowing about who Cho'gall's real master was IE Deathwing, and what's to come in Cataclysm.
I also imagine that information about Cataclysm was controlled in such a way to keep knowledge of the expansion from spoiling the outcome of the comics. Well, Cho'gall's prophecy speaks of events that we know WILL happen in Cataclysm, but the details of how we get from the current state of the comic to Deathwing pulling a chestburster on the WORLD are being concealed.
Well, Guardians haven't exactly led bright and happy careers, from what we know. Med'han's fate may change that, if indeed there's a happy ending to comic #25 but, right now, we're looking at a burden, more than a gift. I do believe Cho'gall will succeed, even if he ends up dead (hopefully the real kind of dead). The prophecy he recited was basically the premisse for Cataclysm.
Unless, like Emeraude said, it all starts with Deathwing. Let's imagine Med'han's attack succeeds in thwarting the ogre's plan of thinning the barrier between Azeroth and the Elemental planes, but actually manages to wake up Deathwing. Everyone's happy and relieved until, come next expansion...well...BAM might describe what takes place.
Edit: Or all we get is a 40-page fight with Med'han and the gang wiping the floor with Twilight goons, a brief moment of despair in which the Dreadlord tries or succeeds in possessing Meryll, then Cho'gall shows up, Med'han kills him, fixes the whole thing, everybody invited to the celebration afterwards, drinks are on the hybrid. Truth be told, this would be in line with the somewhat mediocre tone of the comics. It's more noticeable in dialogues than in the plotline, but it's pretty much everpresent. It's still enjoyable, even if it's just because of being about WoW, but the Warcraft Universe deserved a bit more.
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