You can't have a tragic hero without a hero to begin with.

I thought I was fairly clear with the post; which was nothing more than an imaginary scenario - not intended as speculation of any kind. Let's just say "The Lich King" begins to die. ~20% HP, for clarity's sake. Ner'Zhul concludes that Arthas' body is failing him, and he has two options: escape to "live" another day, or die in this body. The spiritual essence of Ner'Zhul expels itself from Arthas, throwing a few mocking comments at him about being weak and useless. The players discover that Ner'Zhul can't be harmed by our weapons in his current form, and makes some remark about destroying Icecrown and taking us all with him. He starts channeling the same spell Illidan did, the earth starts quaking, yadda yadda yadda. It all looks like doom and gloom, and while Arthas is lying on the ground watching all of this happen in front of him, he recognises that he was once like these 25 (plus Tirion and whoever else) heroes, and decides to intervene. With his last, dying breath, he uses Frostmourne to interrupt the spell and weaken Ner'Zhul; giving the 25 players one last hope. Arthas dies, the 25 players finish off Ner'zhul, you get loot from both. A nice touch would be to design loot based on each characters' history. ie. Arthas could drop a Jaina version of [Memento of Tyrande], and a series of Paladin/Death Knight-themed items; whilst Ner'Zhul would drop Shaman themed items. (Purely cosmetic labels, not actually designed for those classes)

Anyway. It's just a thought as to what interesting sort of path the story could take; not the encounter itself.

My assumption is that Garrosh is referring to the timed Abom + Frost Wyrm attacks in the Valley of Honor.

That was hardly the "razing of Orgrimmar" though, as the Scourge forces were being systematically slaughtered by Thrall, Garrosh, Saurfang and Sylvannas. Though i suppose that if 20 undead standing around a crystal in a field constitutes a "Scourge invasion" than the Abom + Frost Wyrm attacks can be considered a "razing"

What? So you are angry someone else commented on what you wanted to happen? Get over it. Don't think everyone will agree with you or expect people not to comment when they have a different view.

There are different opinions on what a hero is. I don't think Arthas was much of one, the fact that he was a Prince and a up and coming paladin for the Light makes his fall tragic. He could have been something of a hero.

With your "idea" to fail to understand that the LK and Arthas are one being now. If the spirit leaves Arthas body, there won't be any spirit to use it. You are clinging to the idea that Arthas and Ner'zhul are still two separate beings locked in one body. That isn't the case. Most of the current lore clearly shows that the two have merged into one. Don't try to use the Arthas' heart quest either. All that shows is that destroying a part of the LK's current body does is wound him.

If the LK's spirit left Arthas body, the body would lay there. It has no spirit to control it as Arthas' spirit is one part of the LK's with the other part being Ner'Zhul. I doubt if Arthas managed to free himself if 25 heroes along with Tirion and Co. would need Arthas to actually help kill Ner'Zhul. As you remember Ner'Zhul was almost destroyed by Illidian (Who we killed) and only saved from another death by fusing with Arthas, thereby solidifying his power. With out Arthas' his power would start to wade again.

Edit: Of course my post is speculation.

My thoughts exactly. If that was the razing I'm incredibly disapointed.

Although Ner'zul and Arthas have merged into the Lich King, there is still Frostmourne. With Ashbringer brought out of retirement, I suspect that both swords will have some roll in the climactic battle. And I may be utterly wrong about this (it's been a while), but I always had the suspicion that Frostmourne itself has some will of its own. It seemed to have drawn both Muradin and Arthas to itself, and what do we really know about it?

"Whomsoever takes up this blade shall wield power eternal. Just as the blade rends flesh, so must power scar the spirit."

No one is hitting on the motivations of ner'zul with relation to the events of the book Rise of the Horde. He was deceived by Kil'jaden and usurped by Gul'dan, saw the truth to late to save his people from slavery and his world from destruction. It was through his actions that thrall exists, and after his death he was tortured at the hands of the Nazrethim. In the events of Warcraft 3, he was forced to becomes the will that controlled the scourge, once he was freed from the legions control he urged Arthas to free him from the frozen throne and merge with him. To me it seems we are having another "lolore" moment or we are in for some surprises story wise.

If you read Rise of the Horde, you should read it's follow up Beyond the Dark Portal as well as Tides of Darkness. Yes, Ner'zhul was deceived by the Kil'Jaeden the Deceiver, it's what he does. :P Look what happened to Kael'thas. Ner'zhul's only goal in the events of Warcraft 2 were to escape from the war and strife of his own people, he was a coward, he used the Horde for his own agenda. For the events of Warcraft 3 he was forced to become the Lich King, but you have to understand his motivations after this, Kil'Jaeden placed his soul into the armor and sealed it in that Ice Tomb you see in WC3 as a means of control so that the Dreadlords could watch over him. At that point his goal was to find himself a body so that he could be free of his bonds with the full extent of his power(That you've seen so far in WotLK), which you've also seen in Arthas. After that he needed to weaken the Legion so that he could gain his freedom which he had Arthas use Illidan for, after the Legion was undone it was only a matter of getting Arthas up to Northrend to claim the body he so desperately needed and true freedom.

As for Wrath so far he's done the following:

- Launched invasions on both Horde & Alliance capitals to incite them to head to Northrend. I say it like this because I believe he would have been far more effective at sending the bulk of his forces to one city or the other and crushing one before they can react.

- He send his Acherus Death Knights including Darion Mograine and the corrupted Ashbringer on a suicide mission to Light's Hope Chapel to lure out Tirion Fordring and attempted to kill him.

- Allowed the heroes who have arrived in Northrend to do as they please, and even sparing them at times.

- Goaded Tirion Fordring into destroying his Human heart.

- Enlisted the help of the Vrykul who he either turns into his Chosen or Damned after Judgment via the Valkyries.

This is just my personal opinion but it certainly looks like he's either A) Looking for a few of his own new Champions like he had in Arthas, or B) Looking for a new body. >.>

Yea, I'm somewhat disappointed by the lack of development of the Ner'Zhul side of the Lich King. I don't see any "lolore", but it doesn't seem like Ner'Zhul has any motivation anymore other than to be evil for its own sake. Maybe he wants to destroy the Legion and use the Alliance/Horde to that end, but there's no mention of that.

Which is really kind of a shame. I think there could have been some interesting development - perhaps in Outland, even - if he had more lore.

I bought the book and read it. Long story short, the black dragons are evil, and Deathwing is still alive. Expect a Deathwing encounter sometime in the near future.

[edit] To elaborate slightly: The regular crew from Day of the Dragon, plus a Draenei priestess named Iridi and the blue dragon Kalecgos, confront the evil of Grim Batol and discover Deathwing's prime consort, Sintharia - known to us as Lady Sinestra - attempting to continue Nefarian's horrific work. It is revealed that shards of the shattered Demon Soul are being used to create this new Twilight Dragonflight, as well as the power of a captive nether dragon. In the end, the heroes are able to eradicate the Demon Soul once and for all, and supposedly destroy the remaining black dragon eggs so that the work can never continue. But deep under the mountain, Deathwing lies in wait, watching the events with cold calculation as he prepares to finish what Nefarian and Sintharia started.