World of Warcraft - Lore & Storyline discussion [SPOILERS] - Page 622

Emeraude · 08/07/10, 3:29 AM

Originally Posted by Halibell

This recent build added the voices for Garona and Grand Magister Rommath. It looks like Garona helps us fight Cho'gall and Rommath betrays the Horde (ala Benedictus and Millhouse) and joins the Twilight Council.

Rommath: YouTube - ‪Grand Magister Rommath (spoiler)‬&lrm;

Garona: YouTube - ‪[Cataclysm] Garona's voice‬&lrm;

*Groans* I forgot, Garona is a female Orc, and as such, she sounds awful. :P

And Millhouse was locked up by the Naruu! He wasn't exactly a good person to begin with, and let's not forget that he's a Gnome, and all Gnomes are evil.

Nathanyel · 08/07/10, 3:59 AM

I'm kinda expecing Rommath, Benedictus and Milhouse to be actually good people, just corrupted by Old God whispers. If it works for an aspect, it certainly works for mortals albeit powerful ones. Milhouse came in contact with Skyriss in Arcatraz, which may or may not helped the influence (depending on whether Skyriss was actually a Qiraj or just something else which re-used the model) and Rommath as a Blood Elf and mage was exposed to arcane and fel magic, which possibly weakened whatever natural resistance a normal being has, or his spellwork as Grand Magister was like a beacon for the Old God mind tentacles. For Benedictus, I'm outta ideas. They (devs or necrophotics) likely just chose him because he was a respected leader of Stormwind.
As with most corruptions though, most of the hatred will be directed at the corrupted individual anyway.

Originally Posted by Emeraude

*Groans* I forgot, Garona is a female Orc, and as such, she sounds awful. :P

Yeah she does sound like an old orc matron... also, shame on the uploader for putting "I'm not that good with self-control" as the last words, followed by various groans :P One could think that's from a Karazhan flashback.

Malleus · 08/07/10, 9:06 AM

Originally Posted by Emeraude

And Millhouse was locked up by the Naruu! He wasn't exactly a good person to begin with,

Wasn't it established that Millhouse Manastorm was actually a stowaway aboard the Arcatraz, not a prisoner? WoWWiki certainly seems to think so, though it doesn't provide cites beyond Millhouse claiming not to know where he is when he's awoken.

Kaejin · 08/07/10, 9:25 AM

A'dal says so himself.

Trial of the Naaru: Tenacity - Quest - World of Warcraft

Clearly making the Naaru even more suspicious... :p

Halibell · 08/07/10, 12:58 PM

Big Spoiler Here: Alexstrasza vs Deathwing

YouTube - ‪Alexstrasza vs Deathwing - Full Dialogue‬&lrm;

Did she have her voice changed? It sounds different from the Malygos encounter.

Damn didnt see this on mmo =(

Izarus · 08/07/10, 2:46 PM

Has anyone managed to finish Alliance side Andorhal questline ? I heard that it is completeable.

Kirion · 08/07/10, 2:55 PM

Originally Posted by Halibell

Big Spoiler Here: Alexstrasza vs Deathwing

YouTube - ‪Alexstrasza vs Deathwing - Full Dialogue‬&lrm;

Did she have her voice changed? It sounds different from the Malygos encounter.

Damn didnt see this on mmo =(

I wonder where dialog takes place, Grim Batol or maybe Blackwing Descent? Or maybe we will have another Wrathgate-style quest?
That also brings me to the question: where do you think the final encounter with Deathwing will take place?

Halibell · 08/07/10, 3:40 PM

Originally Posted by Kirion

I wonder where dialog takes place, Grim Batol or maybe Blackwing Descent? Or maybe we will have another Wrathgate-style quest?
That also brings me to the question: where do you think the final encounter with Deathwing will take place?

I think this fight is in the Twilight Highlands, not sure on that. As for the Deathwing encounter, i think he has an alternative objective one that will determine where we fight him. I dont like the scenario where we kill Cho'gall in Grim Batol and then come back later and kill Deathwing. ex. Deathwing wants to control all the elemental powers so we fight him in some crazy elemental plane world.

Kaejin · 08/07/10, 3:55 PM

Originally Posted by Halibell

Did she have her voice changed? It sounds different from the Malygos encounter.

She definitely sounds like someone's grandma now. I'm having a really hard time imagining that voice coming from a dragon aspect that's able to fight toe-to-toe with Deathwing.

I imagine this happens at the culmination of the Twilight Highlands quests. There's supposed to be an area that you can't fly into where Alexstrasza and Deathwing are, and it would make sense if that were the stage. Highlands quests would also give ample opportunity to introduce this Calen fellow. My guess is he's Alexstrasza's heir by the way she talks to him.

Kirion · 08/07/10, 5:21 PM

Originally Posted by Kaejin

She definitely sounds like someone's grandma now. I'm having a really hard time imagining that voice coming from a dragon aspect that's able to fight toe-to-toe with Deathwing.

I imagine this happens at the culmination of the Twilight Highlands quests. There's supposed to be an area that you can't fly into where Alexstrasza and Deathwing are, and it would make sense if that were the stage. Highlands quests would also give ample opportunity to introduce this Calen fellow. My guess is he's Alexstrasza's heir by the way she talks to him.

Seems so, although he has rather strange name for red dragon. Maybe it's his "human" name ala Krasus. I wonder who is his daddy?
Who wanna bet after this dialog that we will have Vaelstraz 2.0 encounter?

Leviathon · 08/07/10, 6:29 PM

Originally Posted by Kaejin

She definitely sounds like someone's grandma now. I'm having a really hard time imagining that voice coming from a dragon aspect that's able to fight toe-to-toe with Deathwing.

I imagine this happens at the culmination of the Twilight Highlands quests. There's supposed to be an area that you can't fly into where Alexstrasza and Deathwing are, and it would make sense if that were the stage. Highlands quests would also give ample opportunity to introduce this Calen fellow. My guess is he's Alexstrasza's heir by the way she talks to him.

Calen/Caelestrasz is the Red Dragon you met in AQ40 before C'Thun.

Vaccine · 08/07/10, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Kaejin

She definitely sounds like someone's grandma now. I'm having a really hard time imagining that voice coming from a dragon aspect that's able to fight toe-to-toe with Deathwing.

I imagine this happens at the culmination of the Twilight Highlands quests. There's supposed to be an area that you can't fly into where Alexstrasza and Deathwing are, and it would make sense if that were the stage. Highlands quests would also give ample opportunity to introduce this Calen fellow. My guess is he's Alexstrasza's heir by the way she talks to him.

Do aspects have heirs? I'd more assumed it was a new consort given how she talks to Krasus in Knaak's books it seemed similar.

Leviathon · 08/08/10, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Vaccine

Do aspects have heirs? I'd more assumed it was a new consort given how she talks to Krasus in Knaak's books it seemed similar.

Anachronos is Nozdormu's heir. Although for him it makes sense since he knows when and how he is going to die.

Bullshot · 08/08/10, 3:27 AM

It begs the question as to where Krasus was during the Alexstrasza-Deathwing fight? Was he put in charge of clean-up operations in Northrend instead of helping out with the Cataclysm? It doesn't seem right that he'd just accept that and not interfere, especially when Alexstrasza is facing Deathwing himself.

Or should we take Alexstrasza's line about the fate of the world resting on Calen's shoulders if she falls to mean that Krasus already has?

Kaejin · 08/08/10, 6:28 AM

Originally Posted by Leviathon

Calen/Caelestrasz is the Red Dragon you met in AQ40 before C'Thun.

Good catch, I completely forgot about the three dragons trapped in AQ. I wonder if this means Arygos and Merithra will show up again as well. I seem to recall that they were all supposed to be heirs to their flights, but maybe I just don't remember correctly.