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Old 08/11/11, 9:34 PM   #10441
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Definitely interested to see the Horde counterparts, Ethereal or otherwise, Blood Elf reforgers were somewhat of a whoops moment.

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Old 08/11/11, 11:06 PM   #10442
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I don't see any reason to think those ethereals have anything to do with the next expansion, new playable races, or any story element at all as of yet. It seems more like they're adding some new features with those NPCs (void storage: cross server storage for BoAs?), and using the ethereals plane shifting abilities(?) as an explanation.

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Old 08/11/11, 11:19 PM   #10443
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This is really something of a mysterious image. Thoughts?
My first thought was they could be Cross-Realm mail vendors. So people can finally send Heirlooms and items to characters of the same account on different realms. Would fit the ethereal theme (they come from and travel between other planes / servers). I wouldn't be surprised if this was implemented as a premium feature, however.

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Old 08/12/11, 12:06 AM   #10444
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All three NPCs have jobs that are clearly magical in nature. We can certainly say that the "Void Storage" is some kind of banking system where items can be stored. My guess would be that it's an account-based bank meaning that all your characters can access this storage. It may very well be Blizzards attempt at rendering obsolete all those personal guilds we use as banks. Whether it's cross-server or not is anyones guess.

The "Arcane Reforger" probably has a similar job to our current reforgers but I'm unclear if he'd actually reforge our spells (similar to what some glyphs do). My hope is that he'll attach new cast animations to spells; that's just a pipe dream though.

The "Transmogrifier" is the most interesting one. I honestly have no idea what that could mean. Somebody pointed out that changing faces might be a possibility and since the advent of the barber shop I could see that happening.


And again, as Mr. Crow pointed out, this could be another item in line to throwing us off of the BlizzCon announcements. I put the tinfoil hat on last week when "Mysts" was uncovered and if I wasn't so intrigued with these names I might be strapping it on tighter and looking for accessories.


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Old 08/12/11, 12:39 AM   #10445
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"Arcane reforger" is the title reforge npcs already have.

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Old 08/12/11, 8:19 AM   #10446
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What are the chances that "Void Storage" and "Transmogrifier" are simply pointlessly confusing ways of saying "Shard Trader" and "Enchanting Trainer"?

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Old 08/12/11, 9:16 AM   #10447
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Originally Posted by Blayze View Post
What are the chances that "Void Storage" and "Transmogrifier" are simply pointlessly confusing ways of saying "Shard Trader" and "Enchanting Trainer"?
Agreed. I still vote for needlessly complex "Banker" for the first. The second being "Alchemy Trainer", "Enchanting Trainer", or even one of the specialized trade good vendors (vials, a couple strange dust and wood, or whatever).

New guys filling old roles (whether or not a playable race) seems a simpler explanation (Occam's razor) than brand new features. When they tease new features they tend to put up screenshots of that feature's UI.

It's somewhat dangerous marketing. Internet is abuzz with rampant speculation (picture's almost viral at this point). When our greatest dreams don't materialize, some folks will get upset, blame Blizzard and quit (these people are idiots, but still exist). If Blizzard has a new feature, advertise it and instead you get some folks thrilled and wanting to re-subscribe or at least stay subscribed (these people may or may not be idiots, and also exist). The screenshot we have could lead to some cancellations, but no additions. Screenies of a new feature could lead to either/both. The second is the better marketing to release.

To Crow - yeah, we really don't need new races at all. Unfortunately Blizzard has somewhat painted themselves into the corner of new X-pac must have new class or new races. Since last we heard they had no good ideas for a new Hero class (and balance issues for DK were/are a nightmare) it leans towards new races. Some segment of the playerbase seems to love leveling a new race - it makes some of the old a bit new again. If X-pacs effectively only carry new dungeon/raid content, what distinguishes them from patches in the eyes of the average player?

Rock: "We're sub-standard DPS. Nerf Paper, Scissors are fine."
Paper: "OMG, WTF, Scissors!"
Scissors: "Rock is OP and Paper are QQers. We need PvP buffs."

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Old 08/12/11, 1:21 PM   #10448
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Shamelessly lifted from mmo-c

Warpweaver Hashom - "A WoW Rehash/Revamp"

Additionally, Thalmor has proposed the following:

Thaumaturge Vashreen - "Have a true gamers hunt"
Vaultkeeper Razhid - "hide a true leak" with remaining letters ZPRV.
ZPRV shifted to the right by one letter is SW/AQ (Stormwind Ahn'Qiraj)
Numerically, SWAQ is 1,17,19,23 and 1+19 = 20 and 17+23 = 40, add this to the AQ and you get AQ20/40

SW could refer to Stormwind (where the screenshot is likely to be taken), or perhaps Sunwell
follow the wordgames here Void Transmogifier is an anagram

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Old 08/12/11, 3:03 PM   #10449
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Just saying that while we're cool with the speculation on the image Blizzard posted on Facebook, let's avoid getting into conspiracy nut levels of analysis. The stuff people posted above? All cool. That stuff copied from MMO-Champion? Let's not go there. If you do want to do that kind of speculation I encourage you to do so on MMO-Champion, and if any of it turns out to be correct you're free to PM me it and I'll make a public statement here about how I shut down a valid train of thought about that image.

Basically: Anything that comes directly from the image? Cool. Anagrams, numerology and all that jazz? Skip it.

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Old 08/12/11, 5:47 PM   #10450
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Originally Posted by Fnar View Post
His rightful model should be an urn or burial mound though in all fairness.



Just finished Thrall: Twilight of the Aspects, although this is a spoiler thread I will place this in a spoiler for the benefit of those still reading or who haven't read it but don't want the surprises spoilt. Those who have no intention of reading it but are interested nonetheless check out the spoiler.

Be warned I haven't left anything unspoiled that really matters for anything so if you are planning on reading the book, consider not clicking the spoiler, it is brief but doesn't pull any punches, I have only omitted the ending (which isn't really mind blowing anyway)

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We find out a lot:

Nozdormu is the infinite aspect, he confirms this himself - essentially in one of the future timeways (he is unsure whether it is the true timeway or not) he becomes the infinite leader;
Kalecgos is the new aspect of the blue flight he is coronated during a double lunar eclipse known as the embrace (white mother surrounds the blue child) and he becomes larger and aspectified
The old gods are behind EVERYTHING - deathwing's madness, Malygos' madness - essentially anything which has negatively impacted the dragonflights is their work
Krasus dies - the twilights have been working on chromatics again and corrupt all the eggs in all the sanctums, krasus learns of this and obliterates all the sanctums, the whelps and himself, this almost destroys the flights (especially Alex of course) who are busy fighting twilights and come back to find the Wyrmrest temple has been blown up.
Thrall could never be an aspect - will have to wait and see what Metzen has to say about this

The main antagonists are Chromatus - a five headed chromatic created to destroy aspects, The Twilight Father ( a human lead cultist aka Archbishop Benedictus) and King Aedelas Blackmoore (yes king, alternate timeways for the win)
Thrall of course saves the day and helps the 4 aspects unite to fight Chromatus (he stands in for deathwing as the 5th) without being Mary-Sued

A few things jumped out at me when reading this: Firstly how does the telling of the blue flight coronation tally with the ingame version from the legendary questline, it sounds very different?
Secondly, it is actually brilliantly written they should let Golden do all the novels, Arthas, The shattering and this are head and shoulders above the Knaak offerings.
Thirdly Nozdormu's model should have an owl's head
I am saddened and disappointed to know that "he" dies in a book. Though I guess he was given the most prevalence in the novels for the most part, I was hoping he'd go out in a blaze of glory in-game since he was introduced in Wrath of the Lich King.

I think they missed an opportunity to make Thrall one of the most ridiculously overpowered people in Warcraft. Could you imagine if Thrall actually became the Earth Aspect....and then...wait for it. Returned to the Horde? Man the Horde would have a freakin Aspect as their Warchief.

One thing confused me about your post though, is Archbishop Benedictus a traitor in the normal time line? Or just the timeline where Blackmoore is king? We all know he was supposed to be a traitor originally in WoW(Hell he still might in like 4.3 or later), and then they changed it.

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Old 08/12/11, 5:52 PM   #10451
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The true timeline but from the way he speaks of his use to Deathwing he seems to have not been caught yet which gives me hope that we will indeed see him becoming a traitor ingame.

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Old 08/12/11, 9:04 PM   #10452
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Mostly I find it really odd that the security in the various Sanctums is so bad. After Ruby Sanctum in WotLK you'd think they would have pumped security up. Also can you go any more into detail about the Aspec of Earth business? Would it be appropriate to assume only dragons can be aspects?

Also should I find it amusing that Golden kills off one of the characters Knaak created?

Uulwi ifis halahs gag erh'ongg w'ssh.

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Old 08/13/11, 4:27 AM   #10453
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The ruby sanctum is still recovering from the last twilight assault in the novel but yeah it's not really clear how they get in, although this Twilight Father chap has taken the reins up from Cho'Gall and he, his employer and co-conspirators are pretty powerful.

The way that the new blue is selected and the fact that the new aspect grows and becomes an aspect in the true sense and not just the leader of the blues seem to suggest that only a dragon could be one. Also Thrall has this internal monologue during the final confrontation about how he was not and could never be an aspect but he was able to help them due to his connection to the elements and thus to earth, like I said we'll see what Metzen has to say but Thrall himself does not believe he could ever be an aspect.

It is also suggested that the dragons were already here and were 'asked' by the titans to become the protectors of Azeroth (to be honest I have forgotten whether this contradicts the current version of the coming of the titans or not - having a hard time keeping up with which version is currently 'cannon'), Alexstraza after all that happens regrets her decision and feels she didn't fully understand what was asked of her and that it was too much for her to take on (she goes on a big emo sulk after the attack on the sanctums).


When it happened I did think of the Knaak haters and smile.

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Old 08/13/11, 6:41 PM   #10454
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I believe it was implied through in-game text (mostly quest dialog) that proto-dragon Galakrond was the father of the current dragon flights as we know them. The Titans created the Aspects from him and presumably the flights along with them.

Uulwi ifis halahs gag erh'ongg w'ssh.

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Old 08/14/11, 4:05 AM   #10455
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Originally Posted by Kaejin View Post
I believe it was implied through in-game text (mostly quest dialog) that proto-dragon Galakrond was the father of the current dragon flights as we know them. The Titans created the Aspects from him and presumably the flights along with them.
From the wowpedia page on dragonflights:
In early history, there were many dragonflights (there were dragons in every color of the rainbow), yet there were five flights that held dominion over their brethren. It was these five flights that the titans chose to shepherd the budding world.
And from the wowpedia page on dragon aspects:
Dragon Aspects (aka Great Aspects or simply Aspects) are leaders of five dragonflights, and were created by the titans from the dragon known as Galakrond.
Adding that to the fact that proto-dragons were the "ancestors" from which the dragon aspects involved from I'm coming to the conclusion thatt either: a) the proto-dragons are native to Azeroth and the modern day dragons evolved from them and were around before the titans came to Azeroth and the leaders of the five most prominent flights were charged with their respective duties or b) the proto-dragons were created by the titans and the dragonflights evolved from their creation and later hand picked and charged with their respective duties. Both seem like plausible explanations but the titans usually create things that are iron and/or stone and the proto-dragons are kinda...fleshy!

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