Here are a few rather large spoilers from the sound files.

* Baron Rivendare is the 4th horseman.

* Malygos' Fate:

Well that sucks. I wasn't hoping for them to kill off Malygos either. I suppose, with the idea that the Aspect is really only a title / mantle bearer, it's always possible to appoint another to the task, so as long as there is a FLIGHT, it's not an issue in terms of magic, but still... an aspect?

I had imagined that there'd be some way to redeem ourselves, or I had hoped for a cross battle between Blue Dragonflight and Undead or Old God servants, in which we proved our worth to Malygos as wielders of magic that helped save his flight, rather than see it killed off again.

Well, its a rather interesting development.

On one hand, it would have been nice to have been able to set Malygos straight. But, therein lies the sad truth, because both sides are technically 'right'. Mortals HAVE misused magic and have brought the Burning Legion to Azeroth twice and have had other wonderful calamities occur because of us. But, we have also fought off the Legion and have tried to right many of the wrongs that have been done.

The trouble now is, even if everyone is denied magic, the Lich King and the undead win, because he can still use his plague and eventually win due to attrition. Whereas we NEED our magic users to prevail against him.

In the end, I guess this is probably the only way to conflict could have ended. Malygos is not insane, he would never back down, even if Alextrasa and Kalecgos scream in his face about how wrong he is, and there is no concievable way to imprison or capture Malygos, so what choice are we left with? At least it sounds like it takes the aid of the Red Dragonflight to take him down.

Maybe if Kalecgos takes over for him, that will help mend the wounds from all this.

Kalecgos- new Blue Flight Aspect?

So I listened over the sound files and gleaned some things:

- I really like Malygos' VA. It'll be a 3-phase fight apparently, with the Red Dragons helping you out in the 3rd part.
- Sartheron (spelling?), the boss of the black CoA instance, will summon 3 adds at various points to help him. They appear to be black dragons as well.

There's also a lot of titan lore from the Brann Bronzebeard stuff. In the old builds they just have placeholder text, but from what I gather it explains that the Old Gods were imprisoned rather than killed because they were somehow necessary for Azeroth's existence. However, they're responsible for the "curse of the flesh" which created Vykrul, Dwarves, etc. If I understand correctly, the lore says that the Earth and Storm giants literally are titans. Also, Loken (formerly known as Kronus, the leader of the runed iron dwarves), is somehow working for Yogg-Saron and against the Titans, I think it's implied that he's the one that ended the Titans' dominance of Azeroth (presumably after the Pantheon left?) Which makes me wonder what exactly will be in the Ulduar raid, Loken makes a reference to trying to revive some "Father", but if his true master is an Old God.. who knows.

Kinda confusing, and I'm sure that some of this interpretation is wrong, but I'm sure people will encounter these things ingame and clarify them soon.

Just for fun, Malygos's raid speech for those who care enough to read my text but not quite enough to actually dig through the MPQ themselves (possibly a very small group):


I think I got everything right except maybe some punctuation. Seems like a pretty epic fight.

Is this the biggest twist of irony we've seen in WoW's story so far? We are the result of Old Gods tampering with Titan creations. We are considered 'the curse' for those creations. Our bodies (flesh) are the reminder of the evil that is prisoned beneath the world - for all to see.

Ive always wondered about two scenarios: "What if the titans were bad guys" or "What if the titans wanted to destroy us when they came back to Azeroth?". Now they have a pretty understandable reason to fit the latter role.

Here is the whole transcript of that event in Halls of Stone, and discussion too.

Truth of the Old Gods

Yea, reading over the full transcript and the "development" of the Old Gods, maybe Lavos as a raid boss isn't so impossible after all.. :P they seem kinda similar. I always thought that was an odd point, that apparently the Old Gods were just on Azeroth forever and could challenge the Titans.

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Also, playing through Zul'Drak and Sholazar now that the level cap has been raised, I noted that the Gluth model gets reused after all for one mob... and also I think that the lore is that Flesh Giants (Grobbulus) and Flesh Titans (Thaddius) are made from dead Storm Giants.

Something on that thread is wrong. The poster seems to believe that the Old Gods being extra-Azeroth in origin somehow precludes the Lovecraftian stuff.

The Cthulhu mythos is rather explicitly extraterrestial, as well as cosmic in scale. Cthulhu flew to Earth with those wings, after all.

What about the Lich King, reanimating Malygos for a raid boss in the final encounter? Any chances of that happening?