This post is first and foremost a salute to you guys on your dedication to progressing legitamently in BWL. At every turn and new boss kill I question those claiming incredibly fast kills after first seeing the encounter and I am hesitant to believe that such a steep learning curve can be overcome so quickly.

I respect you guys for the simple fact that I know you look down on exploitation and fishy tactics just as much as we do and not only look down on it, but have the skill to keep up with the people that will do anything and everything to get some loot.

I posted a few weeks ago about razorgore concerns and we have since moved onwards to Broodlord, and after we stack some hp buffs should take him down.

(funny side note that is also kind of scary.... we were hacking around with broodlord and got him to 50ish % with 7 people in the zone, LOL. I won't mention how, because i don't want to encourage anyone to cheat, its just funny that we could have easily killed him with 7 people, it just may have taken an hour :). But like i said we would never pull a stunt like that, it was just a funny thing to attempt)

Congrats on your progression thusfar, and I really can't wait to see the Chromaggus kill post and your exploration into the nefarius fight, keep up the good work.

ps. Your posts on raid forums own gurg. You speak for a lot of us that choose to remain silent. B)

-Daigoro
-Relentless
-Shattered Hand

Good luck with Broodlord and the drakes after that, and thanks for your support :)

Dont encourage Gurgthock to talk even more than he already does.

Sorry, once I hit law school there was no going back.

Thanks for the words of encouragement, and congrats on your progress thus far. Broodlord is a fun introduction into the world of massive burst damage, but once you get that nailed down, you'll be on to the drakes in no time.

Yea, it seems like we have to stack hp out the wazoo to have any chance of having tanks up after ms. Did you guys use Flasks of Titans? or just lung juices and stuff. Also, i have been hearing through the grapevine that even alliance guilds are alt-f4'ing their mages even with their blessing of salvation. Who are these people kidding, thats such bullshit =/

We won't be doing that, but im afraid we will be going through a lot flasks.

Flasks? No, never. Though in 1.7 I think it would almost be dumb not to, since they'll last through death. Lung Juice, Elixir of Fortitude, +sta Food? Yes.

Any guild with BoS that needs to do stuff like alt-f4 or intentionally suicide is pretty pathetic. Before they made Firemaw tauntable and nerfed Broodlord's knockback, though, I can see how such tactics may have been almost necessary (well, suiciding -- not alt-f4'ing, which is a clear exploit, unlike suiciding which is just cheesy as hell).

I'm 90% sure that elixir of brute force no longer has its health boost stack with Fortitude.

Gordok grog does stack with stamina food though (unless it's been changed recently, haven't tested). Then lung juice and elixir of fortitude also stack with those.

All of these though will become unnecessary once you have beaten the encounter a time or two, as you might expect. They're very helpful in transitioning from the learning phase to the killing phase.

I can't imagine what you could have done to exploit broodlord though, especially since he has a leashing script. It's better that this not be made public though.

Last time I made mention of anything like that is that I just casually mentioned that someone could exploit ragnaros by using the ornate spyglass to root the main tank. This led to people accusing us of exploiting using it, as well as other guilds on other servers. They then hotfixed the item to prevent the exploit, and from what I hear some guilds were unable to beat ragnaros after they hotfixed it.

I hear that if you vendor all your equipment to a repair bot while you have Burning Adrenaline, you still die and look like a retard.

no worries beef, i have no intentions of going public with it, I would post a screenshot but again i would rather not feed the cheaters, it was fun though. I had to shutdown a couple of our guys that wanted to kill him that way if we didn't get him before our timer =/

so grog = 100hp
lung juice = 500hp
elix = 120 hp
food ~ 100hp
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820hp more. not bad :)

There are 2 stamina food buffs, one from might fish +10 and that will stack with a +8/8 stamina spirt buff, that gets you 18 stamia instead of 12. I dont think it stacks with the +12/12 on though.