BWL boss ratings - Page 2

Ultramax · 09/12/05, 6:24 PM

Need more hunters to eat BA!

Lord BEEF · 09/12/05, 7:02 PM

Originally Posted by Praetorian,September 10th, 2005 @ 11:30PM

Originally Posted by Elfan,September 11th, 2005 @ 1:21AM

When you are rating difficulty are you doing it by difficulty of execution, understanding the encounter, potential for something to go wrong and quickly wipe the raid?

Hmm. I guess a bit of both. Right now, I go into every boss except Firemaw and Flamegor confident that we'll kill him on the first try barring something truly bizarre happening.

Razorgore and Vael are complicated to learn and can be frustrating in the process, but once you've got them down they're really pretty straightforward.

Broodlord is the easiest boss in BWL. He's not complicated, and once you've learned him, it's a sure kill.

The drakes are pretty tough. Firemaw is the toughest of the three I think. He has the nastiest gimmick. He'll take a lot of practice, but once you get him, the next two are basically watered-down versions of him.

I think every guild that has killed Firemaw has gotten Ebonroc and Flamegor down within the next day or two thereafter.

I think razergore is the farthest from straightforward a fight can possibly get.

Just about every class has a unique role that they're unaccustomed to in raid content.

Straightforward is "tank this guy here, healers stand here and do this when this happens, dps do this and watch out for this, ok lets go"

When we did razergore a few weeks ago there was a 20 minute explanation with a question and answer session :P

♦ Praetorian · 09/12/05, 7:04 PM

Originally Posted by Lord BEEF,September 12th, 2005 @ 7:02PM

I think razergore is the farthest from straightforward a fight can possibly get.

Just about every class has a unique role that they're unaccustomed to in raid content.

Straightforward is "tank this guy here, healers stand here and do this when this happens, dps do this and watch out for this, ok lets go"

When we did razergore a few weeks ago there was a 20 minute explanation with a question and answer session :P

Well, in that sense, very true. I mostly meant "straightforward" in terms of "easily repeatable." I don't really worry about us wiping on Razorgore anymore, but fighting Firemaw is nerve-wracking in the extreme.

Anglakel · 09/12/05, 7:07 PM

Originally Posted by Ultramax,September 12th, 2005 @ 5:24PM

Need more hunters to eat BA!

Lysander has lived through most of his BA's, fuckin soul link.

Elfan · 09/13/05, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by Anglakel,September 12th, 2005 @ 6:07PM

No boss is capable of wiping you quite as quickly as Vael

Oh so true. Very fun.

Edit: GOOMBA!

Raylen · 09/13/05, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Elfan,September 12th, 2005 @ 10:36PM

Originally Posted by Anglakel,September 12th, 2005 @ 6:07PM

No boss is capable of wiping you quite as quickly as Vael

Oh so true. Very fun.

Edit: GOOMBA!

Same can be said of Firemaw.

Steelfleece · 09/13/05, 12:49 AM

I dunno, didn't Chrommagus wipe us in like 8 seconds once?

♦ Praetorian · 09/13/05, 12:53 AM

Two Vaels > *

Euronymous · 09/13/05, 3:08 PM

vaelastraz is fun

i think it will be more fun when i get to watch more warriors die and see more dps

Gonkish · 09/15/05, 4:05 AM

Vael + BA on someone (in this case, me) + BA on a WINDFURY TOTEM + said totem not moving (damn its lazy ass to hell) = one gigantic corpse run.

IT WAS THE TOTEM'S FAULT OK GOD DAMMIT. :( :( :(

I moved as soon as I saw the message, two steps later the raid was wiped. It was not fun. :(

I did crit Dios for like 20k though so that's pretty cool. :laugh:

Pheidippides · 09/16/05, 11:42 AM

Warlocks with soul link survive BA? Thats cool stuff

Greybone · 09/16/05, 2:11 PM

How can you survive with 0% maxhealth?

• bartolimu · 09/16/05, 3:58 PM

My guess - and it's only a guess - is that the actual death effect is a damage type effect - and if Soul Link is on it gets divided evenly between pet and caster. Since it's not a specific number but rather a single effect, it gets "rounded up" on the pet and you suffer no ill effects.

Then again this is just a crazy theory I've been pondering.

Anglakel · 09/16/05, 11:11 PM

I'll ask him one sec.

Anglakel · 09/16/05, 11:12 PM

ok so he soul links to an imp who is phase shifted.