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Old 10/21/08, 12:55 PM   #26
Ashhoof
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Interesting, but I believe the original gate opener on Shadow Council was a human paladin. Plus, there are people who know Titan. I think the Gate bug and this language thing are not related.

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Old 10/21/08, 1:43 PM   #27
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"WoWWiki" <--

Probably someone who briefly perused the WoW forum thread and leapt to conclusions.

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Old 10/21/08, 2:26 PM   #28
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Human Rogue here. Can speak Titan somehow. Have not done Scepter chain.

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Old 10/23/08, 1:54 AM   #29
Richiewolk
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For those wondering what mobs are saying in other languages, everything is sent to your client in plaintext. You can use a packet sniffer and find out what everything is before it's encoded on your end. The netherwing drakes say "Thank you, mortal" when you feed them and Levixus the Soul Caller yells out the names of developers. Those are the only 2 I remember off the top of my head.

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Old 10/23/08, 2:02 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by Richiewolk View Post
You can use a packet sniffer
Insert "at your own risk disclaimer" here.

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Old 10/23/08, 6:13 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by Richiewolk View Post
For those wondering what mobs are saying in other languages, everything is sent to your client in plaintext. You can use a packet sniffer and find out what everything is before it's encoded on your end. The netherwing drakes say "Thank you, mortal" when you feed them and Levixus the Soul Caller yells out the names of developers. Those are the only 2 I remember off the top of my head.
And this doesn't work for the books?

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Old 10/23/08, 12:57 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by richard View Post
And this doesn't work for the books?
Book data isn't sent through the chat log. More than likely, the information is already on your local computer as part of the installation process. Given that we know what text to search for, it doesn't seem hard to look for it and see what other text is in that area.

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Old 10/23/08, 5:18 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by Richiewolk View Post
For those wondering what mobs are saying in other languages, everything is sent to your client in plaintext. You can use a packet sniffer and find out what everything is before it's encoded on your end. The netherwing drakes say "Thank you, mortal" when you feed them and Levixus the Soul Caller yells out the names of developers. Those are the only 2 I remember off the top of my head.
Is this true for player speech as well? Can it be used cross-faction?

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Old 10/24/08, 5:57 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pokeylope View Post
Is this true for player speech as well? Can it be used cross-faction?
If you're thinking of trying - don't. Blizzard is extremely protective of its language barrier between the two factions and has banned people for trying to get around it.

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Old 10/24/08, 2:45 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
If you're thinking of trying - don't. Blizzard is extremely protective of its language barrier between the two factions and has banned people for trying to get around it.
But implements the ability to talk cross-faction (well, your pre-zombie faction) with the scourge invasion event. A temporary change, yes, but Blizzard tolerance may be higher than normal.

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Old 10/24/08, 3:01 PM   #36
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Wild guess: It works if the Scarab Lord didn't made a server transfer after becoming scarab lord.

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Old 10/24/08, 3:30 PM   #37
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Originally Posted by evisania View Post
But implements the ability to talk cross-faction (well, your pre-zombie faction) with the scourge invasion event. A temporary change, yes, but Blizzard tolerance may be higher than normal.
That has an in-game justification. Alliance and Horde talking is not cool, but zombies talking to zombies regardless of previous history is. They really do want you to be fighting for the scourge in all possible senses.

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Wild guess: It works if the Scarab Lord didn't made a server transfer after becoming scarab lord.
I can gather some evidence for that. If orc hunters on my server cannot speak draconic, that would support your conjecture. (I'm looking at you, Sean, I know you read these forums.)


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Old 10/24/08, 4:21 PM   #38
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Both of the Horde Scarab Lords on Nordrassil were Tauren Warriors. One transferred off, one did not. Tauren Warriors on Nordrassil cannot speak Draconic.

I'm leaning towards fluke. It appears to be unique to Shadow Council.

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Old 10/24/08, 5:24 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by evisania View Post
But implements the ability to talk cross-faction (well, your pre-zombie faction) with the scourge invasion event. A temporary change, yes, but Blizzard tolerance may be higher than normal.
An external chat program works quite well to communicate with opposing faction members that want to talk to you. Anyone not trying to talk to you has a reasonable expectation that game mechanics are going to make what they're yelling unintelligible to you, which is at least part of the reason Blizz tries to protect the language barrier.

Bottom line, if you want to talk to the opposing faction, use an external program or even an alt - but packet sniffing is both of limited utility and likely to draw attention from Blizzard, especially with extended use. Not worth the hassle or the risk, as you gain very little - packet sniffing takes far more access to system calls than you have within an addon if that's what you were hoping for by the way.

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Old 12/05/08, 11:55 AM   #40
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NOT a fluke.

I created a gnome rogue right before 3.0 came out and she indeed was able to speak Draconic.

Also my best friend IRL is a gnome rogue and just finished the Dragonblight Wrathgate event. I was sitting next to him when he did it. Alexstrasa after the event has a conversation with her mate and this is how it goes:

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Him: Shall the mortals know the fate of the young paladin?
Alexstrasa: No, they shall not know his fate yet.

Something to that extent. That isn't word for word, but that is the jist. Basically Bolvar Fordragon isn't dead and they aren't going to let us all know that just yet.

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Old 12/05/08, 1:45 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by TrickBlades View Post
I created a gnome rogue right before 3.0 came out and she indeed was able to speak Draconic.

Also my best friend IRL is a gnome rogue and just finished the Dragonblight Wrathgate event. I was sitting next to him when he did it. Alexstrasa after the event has a conversation with her mate and this is how it goes:

Something to that extent. That isn't word for word, but that is the jist. Basically Bolvar Fordragon isn't dead and they aren't going to let us all know that just yet.
I was hoping someone would remember this topic after doing the Wrathgate chain. Does anyone have a screenshot of this?

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Old 12/05/08, 1:48 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by TrickBlades View Post
Something to that extent. That isn't word for word, but that is the jist.
Assuming this is true, could you please at least put huge plot spoilers behind a spoiler tag?

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Old 12/17/08, 11:19 AM   #43
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Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
If you're thinking of trying - don't. Blizzard is extremely protective of its language barrier between the two factions and has banned people for trying to get around it.
It would be pretty much impossible for Blizzard to detect that you're using a packet sniffer - As long as you don't do something obvious, like sitting there and holding a conversation with someone else using a packet sniffer, I can't really see them ever finding out.


A lot of people are saying the exact translation, including several gnome rogues who claim to have the draconic bug, is the following:

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"They must not discover the fate of the young paladin. Not yet."

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Old 12/17/08, 4:07 PM   #44
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Bolvar isn't a young man though, by any means. However, the whole sentence cannot be really construed as canon though, as it isn't something players are supposed to be able to see.

I don't think it can really be used as a prediction for anything.

Also, as a side point I realize this be said that dragons think all mortals are young. I still think something supposed to be hidden from players can't be taken at face value. However, reading that sentence, it reads as fairly ominous to me.

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Old 12/17/08, 4:15 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Elmdor~ZJ View Post
Bolvar isn't a young man though, by any means. However, the whole sentence cannot be really construed as canon though, as it isn't something players are supposed to be able to see.

I don't think it can really be used as a prediction for anything.
Assuming that the sentence is intended to be as it is, I imagine the reference to the "young paladin" is because a dragon is doing the speaking. To the dragons, anyone of mortal race is "young", no matter how old they actually are.

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Old 12/17/08, 4:19 PM   #46
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EDIT2: Remove my post, please!

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Old 12/17/08, 4:28 PM   #47
Elmdor~ZJ
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See, the problem I have with claiming that all dragons would treat mortals as young is that you quickly get into an argument of context. Yes, all dragons think mortals are young. However, they're also smart, and can tell the difference between an old and an young person, and thus may or may not use that description. As I said, it's context. More than likely it was a line through in by a dev, not well thought out under the assumption very few players would be able to decipher either.

An argument either way is simply based on circumstance though. The lore surrounding Bolvar's age, and representation in game has always been conflicting.

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Old 12/17/08, 7:04 PM   #48
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Well, 30ish isn't exactly old, either. Context wise, I can't really think of it referring to anyone but Bolvar, though.

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Old 12/17/08, 8:05 PM   #49
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If you want to get into real speculation territory, it could mean Arthas.

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Old 12/18/08, 9:33 AM   #50
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Well, we all know what happened to Arthas, don't we?

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