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10/21/08, 12:55 PM
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#26
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Glass Joe
Tauren Warrior
Shadow Council
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Interesting, but I believe the original gate opener on Shadow Council was a human paladin. Plus, there are people who know Titan. I think the Gate bug and this language thing are not related.
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10/21/08, 1:43 PM
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#27
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Soda Popinski
Night Elf Druid
Frostmourne
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"WoWWiki" <--
Probably someone who briefly perused the WoW forum thread and leapt to conclusions.
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#elitistjerks
<^clicker> nice job trying to troll but you're a fucking idiot because i wasn't responding to you
<^clicker> this is the channel for serious discussion of important world of warcraft issues i believe youre looking for /b/ get lost scrub
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<^clicker> do you act like this all the time
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10/21/08, 2:26 PM
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#28
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Abides...
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Human Rogue here. Can speak Titan somehow. Have not done Scepter chain.
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10/23/08, 1:54 AM
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#29
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Von Kaiser
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For those wondering what mobs are saying in other languages, everything is sent to your client in plaintext. You can use a packet sniffer and find out what everything is before it's encoded on your end. The netherwing drakes say "Thank you, mortal" when you feed them and Levixus the Soul Caller yells out the names of developers. Those are the only 2 I remember off the top of my head.
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10/23/08, 2:02 AM
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#30
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Soda Popinski
Night Elf Druid
Frostmourne
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Originally Posted by Richiewolk
You can use a packet sniffer
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Insert "at your own risk disclaimer" here.
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#elitistjerks
<^clicker> nice job trying to troll but you're a fucking idiot because i wasn't responding to you
<^clicker> this is the channel for serious discussion of important world of warcraft issues i believe youre looking for /b/ get lost scrub
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<^clicker> do you act like this all the time
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10/23/08, 6:13 AM
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#31
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Piston Honda
Human Death Knight
Kazzak (EU)
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Originally Posted by Richiewolk
For those wondering what mobs are saying in other languages, everything is sent to your client in plaintext. You can use a packet sniffer and find out what everything is before it's encoded on your end. The netherwing drakes say "Thank you, mortal" when you feed them and Levixus the Soul Caller yells out the names of developers. Those are the only 2 I remember off the top of my head.
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And this doesn't work for the books?
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10/23/08, 12:57 PM
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#32
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Bald Bull
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Originally Posted by richard
And this doesn't work for the books?
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Book data isn't sent through the chat log. More than likely, the information is already on your local computer as part of the installation process. Given that we know what text to search for, it doesn't seem hard to look for it and see what other text is in that area.
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10/23/08, 5:18 PM
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#33
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Richiewolk
For those wondering what mobs are saying in other languages, everything is sent to your client in plaintext. You can use a packet sniffer and find out what everything is before it's encoded on your end. The netherwing drakes say "Thank you, mortal" when you feed them and Levixus the Soul Caller yells out the names of developers. Those are the only 2 I remember off the top of my head.
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Is this true for player speech as well? Can it be used cross-faction?
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10/24/08, 5:57 AM
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#34
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King Hippo
Night Elf Druid
The Maelstrom (EU)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pokeylope
Is this true for player speech as well? Can it be used cross-faction?
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If you're thinking of trying - don't. Blizzard is extremely protective of its language barrier between the two factions and has banned people for trying to get around it.
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An thenn tehy wuz al ded. Srsly. ( Exodus 1)
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10/24/08, 2:45 PM
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#35
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Duilliath
If you're thinking of trying - don't. Blizzard is extremely protective of its language barrier between the two factions and has banned people for trying to get around it.
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But implements the ability to talk cross-faction (well, your pre-zombie faction) with the scourge invasion event. A temporary change, yes, but Blizzard tolerance may be higher than normal.
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10/24/08, 3:01 PM
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#36
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Tinker
Gnome Rogue
Forscherliga (EU)
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Wild guess: It works if the Scarab Lord didn't made a server transfer after becoming scarab lord.
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10/24/08, 3:30 PM
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Bald Bull
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Originally Posted by evisania
But implements the ability to talk cross-faction (well, your pre-zombie faction) with the scourge invasion event. A temporary change, yes, but Blizzard tolerance may be higher than normal.
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That has an in-game justification. Alliance and Horde talking is not cool, but zombies talking to zombies regardless of previous history is. They really do want you to be fighting for the scourge in all possible senses.
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Originally Posted by Hildegard
Wild guess: It works if the Scarab Lord didn't made a server transfer after becoming scarab lord.
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I can gather some evidence for that. If orc hunters on my server cannot speak draconic, that would support your conjecture. (I'm looking at you, Sean, I know you read these forums.)
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10/24/08, 4:21 PM
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#38
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Take what ye can
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Both of the Horde Scarab Lords on Nordrassil were Tauren Warriors. One transferred off, one did not. Tauren Warriors on Nordrassil cannot speak Draconic.
I'm leaning towards fluke. It appears to be unique to Shadow Council.
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10/24/08, 5:24 PM
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#39
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Piston Honda
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Originally Posted by evisania
But implements the ability to talk cross-faction (well, your pre-zombie faction) with the scourge invasion event. A temporary change, yes, but Blizzard tolerance may be higher than normal.
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An external chat program works quite well to communicate with opposing faction members that want to talk to you. Anyone not trying to talk to you has a reasonable expectation that game mechanics are going to make what they're yelling unintelligible to you, which is at least part of the reason Blizz tries to protect the language barrier.
Bottom line, if you want to talk to the opposing faction, use an external program or even an alt - but packet sniffing is both of limited utility and likely to draw attention from Blizzard, especially with extended use. Not worth the hassle or the risk, as you gain very little - packet sniffing takes far more access to system calls than you have within an addon if that's what you were hoping for by the way.
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12/05/08, 11:55 AM
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Glass Joe
Human Death Knight
Crushridge
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NOT a fluke.
I created a gnome rogue right before 3.0 came out and she indeed was able to speak Draconic.
Also my best friend IRL is a gnome rogue and just finished the Dragonblight Wrathgate event. I was sitting next to him when he did it. Alexstrasa after the event has a conversation with her mate and this is how it goes:
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Him: Shall the mortals know the fate of the young paladin?
Alexstrasa: No, they shall not know his fate yet.
Something to that extent. That isn't word for word, but that is the jist. Basically Bolvar Fordragon isn't dead and they aren't going to let us all know that just yet.
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Last edited by TrickBlades : 12/05/08 at 12:01 PM.
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12/05/08, 1:45 PM
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by TrickBlades
I created a gnome rogue right before 3.0 came out and she indeed was able to speak Draconic.
Also my best friend IRL is a gnome rogue and just finished the Dragonblight Wrathgate event. I was sitting next to him when he did it. Alexstrasa after the event has a conversation with her mate and this is how it goes:
Something to that extent. That isn't word for word, but that is the jist. Basically Bolvar Fordragon isn't dead and they aren't going to let us all know that just yet.
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I was hoping someone would remember this topic after doing the Wrathgate chain. Does anyone have a screenshot of this?
Last edited by GTtheBard : 12/05/08 at 1:51 PM.
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12/05/08, 1:48 PM
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#42
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Bald Bull
Gnome Mage
Cenarion Circle
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Originally Posted by TrickBlades
Something to that extent. That isn't word for word, but that is the jist.
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Assuming this is true, could you please at least put huge plot spoilers behind a spoiler tag?
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12/17/08, 11:19 AM
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Duilliath
If you're thinking of trying - don't. Blizzard is extremely protective of its language barrier between the two factions and has banned people for trying to get around it.
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It would be pretty much impossible for Blizzard to detect that you're using a packet sniffer - As long as you don't do something obvious, like sitting there and holding a conversation with someone else using a packet sniffer, I can't really see them ever finding out.
A lot of people are saying the exact translation, including several gnome rogues who claim to have the draconic bug, is the following:
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"They must not discover the fate of the young paladin. Not yet."
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12/17/08, 4:07 PM
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Glass Joe
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Bolvar isn't a young man though, by any means. However, the whole sentence cannot be really construed as canon though, as it isn't something players are supposed to be able to see.
I don't think it can really be used as a prediction for anything.
Also, as a side point I realize this be said that dragons think all mortals are young. I still think something supposed to be hidden from players can't be taken at face value. However, reading that sentence, it reads as fairly ominous to me.
Last edited by Elmdor~ZJ : 12/17/08 at 4:16 PM.
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12/17/08, 4:15 PM
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#45
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Don Flamenco
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Originally Posted by Elmdor~ZJ
Bolvar isn't a young man though, by any means. However, the whole sentence cannot be really construed as canon though, as it isn't something players are supposed to be able to see.
I don't think it can really be used as a prediction for anything.
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Assuming that the sentence is intended to be as it is, I imagine the reference to the "young paladin" is because a dragon is doing the speaking. To the dragons, anyone of mortal race is "young", no matter how old they actually are.
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12/17/08, 4:19 PM
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#46
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Von Kaiser
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EDIT2: Remove my post, please!
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12/17/08, 4:28 PM
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#47
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Glass Joe
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See, the problem I have with claiming that all dragons would treat mortals as young is that you quickly get into an argument of context. Yes, all dragons think mortals are young. However, they're also smart, and can tell the difference between an old and an young person, and thus may or may not use that description. As I said, it's context. More than likely it was a line through in by a dev, not well thought out under the assumption very few players would be able to decipher either.
An argument either way is simply based on circumstance though. The lore surrounding Bolvar's age, and representation in game has always been conflicting.
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12/17/08, 7:04 PM
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#48
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Von Kaiser
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Well, 30ish isn't exactly old, either. Context wise, I can't really think of it referring to anyone but Bolvar, though.
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12/17/08, 8:05 PM
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Glass Joe
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If you want to get into real speculation territory, it could mean Arthas.
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12/18/08, 9:33 AM
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Druid
Perenolde (EU)
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Well, we all know what happened to Arthas, don't we?
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