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Old 10/23/08, 1:23 AM   #1
Cranberry
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Tanaris
Graaaiiiinnnnssss...er, Scourge Invasion Thread

Ample information can be found at mmo-champion, wowinsider, etc regarding the current effects of this invasion. Currently:

- Zombies can talk to other zombies, regardless of faction.
- Almost any NPC can carry the plague. Zombies spawned are near the level of the original NPC.
- Multiple [unconfirmed] reports are coming in that the plague is steadily becoming harder to cleanse.
- Each zombie hit removes 20 seconds from the remaining 'time to zombie'.
- Blues hint at a possible Scourge NPC, interactable with only as a ghoul. So far, it is confirmed not to be Rivendaire or Timmy.

The big question is: What is coming? Blue posts heavily hint at the plague slowly building - can we find the spells involved in the game files? Here's what I have:

Almost Certainly Related:
Script Effects
You're Re-infected! - Spell - World of Warcraft - "You're re-infected!"
Scourge Invasion Blood Machine Beam, Vat - Spell - World of Warcraft - "Scourge Invasion Blood Machine Beam, Vat"
Scourge Invasion Blood Vat Bunny - Spell - World of Warcraft - "Scourge Invasion Blood Vat Bunny"
Scourge Infection - Spell - World of Warcraft - "Scourge Infection"
Blood Machine Beam - Spell - World of Warcraft - "Blood Machine Beam"


Maybe?:
Plague Infected - Spell - World of Warcraft - "Plague Infected" - DoT and boost to your crit
Neutralize Plague - Spell - World of Warcraft - "Neutralize Plague" - Scripted

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Old 10/23/08, 1:45 AM   #2
Clandestine
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Originally Posted by Cranberry View Post
Neutralize Plague - Spell - World of Warcraft - "Neutralize Plague" - Scripted
That spell is from a quest in Icecrown, it's not related to the scourge invasion event.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 2:18 AM   #3
boomix
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I was getting massive number of resists when trying to cleanse disease on both my priest and paladin. It was working once in about fifteen tries.

This is on Malfurion server.

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Old 10/23/08, 2:33 AM   #4
Qrt
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Dwarven Stone Form racial works as instant zombification as well as bubble and Ice Block.

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Old 10/23/08, 2:40 AM   #5
AJAlkaline
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Runetotem
On Runetotem we noticed a weird bug where destroying an item in your inventory would heal you to full as a Ghoul. It was definitely working earlier in the night, but I just tried it recently and it failed to work.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 2:53 AM   #6
 typobox
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I think they hotfixed some of the bugs. I was able to swap out weapons and get healed to full as well earlier. It stopped working around half an hour ago.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 2:54 AM   #7
Dancing Wu Li Master
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Originally Posted by Qrt View Post
Dwarven Stone Form racial works as instant zombification as well as bubble and Ice Block.
Forcing death with hellfire does too. If you have a Soulstone on you are unable to use it.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 3:22 AM   #8
Baite
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Deathwing
Didn't see this posted before, but it would seem that you are able to take the opposite faction's shattrath portals as a zombie.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 3:26 AM   #9
Malcophant
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Originally Posted by Baite View Post
Didn't see this posted before, but it would seem that you are able to take the opposite faction's shattrath portals as a zombie.
I can confirm this, although I got disconnected from server when I tried it, when I logged back in I was in Stormwind.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 3:35 AM   #10
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Getting on a flying mount clears the debuff, if for some reason you really don't want it in outland.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 3:59 AM   #11
Baite
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Deathwing
Originally Posted by Malcophant View Post
I can confirm this, although I got disconnected from server when I tried it, when I logged back in I was in Stormwind.
This happens to me as well, but not everyone.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 4:35 AM   #12
Valerys
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I wonder, if you kill the opposing faction leaders as a zombie, do you get the achievement for it?
 
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Old 10/23/08, 4:38 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by Valerys View Post
I wonder, if you kill the opposing faction leaders as a zombie, do you get the achievement for it?
More relevant: If you kill your own faction leaders as a zombie, do you get the opposing faction's achievement for it?

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Old 10/23/08, 4:42 AM   #14
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The faction leaders (at least Thrall, anyway) have Argent Healers surrounding them. Argent Healers will insta-kill you on the spot as a zombie.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 5:07 AM   #15
katholas
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Actually the healers stack a debuff on you that makes you explode after 3 stacks, but it is more than possible to zerg them down before you get to 3 debuffs if you have enough zombies. We were killing the ones in shatt earlier with 5 people in the group, just have to pop lurch and all go in at the same time.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 5:07 AM   #16
 typobox
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Alexstrasza
The healers seem limited in their capabilities. A group of ~15 zombies was able to kill the one outside of Undercity without too much trouble, only losing a couple.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 5:10 AM   #17
bdew
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Блекдью
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This is just irritating...

My warlock got disconnected after getting infected and now can't log in at all, geting d/c right after the loading screen. I wrote a ticket about it and after 9 hours it still wasn't answered.
I've had quite a lot of fun infecting stuff on my rogue, but now she's bugged too - all my items don't seem to give any bonuses (and no, they'r not broken), in full epic armor i have like 100ap and atacks for 10 damage even when not in zombie form.

Now i'm scared logging in with my hunter as it's my last playable level 70 and god knows how long will it take them to fix those bugs...

edit: just fucking great. my rogue got somehow un-glitched to normal stats, then i got disconnected and can't log in with her either.

I also talked to several guys on my server that have the same problem and there is also some post at the forums (WoW-Europe.com Forums -> Zombie + instance = perma-dc)

Seems to happen when you zone or get disconnected (from unrelated reasons) while in zombie form.

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Old 10/23/08, 5:31 AM   #18
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Zombies heavily favor being in large groups. Retch makes the group's survivability scale quadratically with size, and the Mangle taking time off the infection timer means that zombie groups grow exponentially, assuming enough targets. I assume this is the point. A coordinated group could get scarily effective.

As far as I can tell, zombie deaths/kills do not factor into any achievement. As a normal person, killing zombies gave me no honor, and doing so with gnerds did not give me credit towards the gnerd rage achievement.

 
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Old 10/23/08, 5:36 AM   #19
Hungtar
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Originally Posted by Dancing Wu Li Master View Post
Forcing death with hellfire does too. If you have a Soulstone on you are unable to use it.
Falling damage will do the trick, too. Probably death in general.

It is also a good idea to put Retch! on under your self as a zombie as often as possible, as it will heal you (while it is active, the periodic damage is on par with the Retch! healing, does the healing stack?).

I went to andorhal as a zombie to see if i could speak with any of the mobs (esp. Araj) there, no success. They are friendly though.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 6:01 AM   #20
Ja7us
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The retch healing absolutely stacks. We found the best use was just to stack them all on top of one another to create healing zones.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 6:05 AM   #21
cornpotato2
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Human Paladin
 
Suramar
This is my first post, but since this didn't seem to have been covered in this thread I thought I'd share that you can trade between factions as ghouls too. This is most likely a bug and will get insta-fixed as soon as blizz catches on to it, but in the mean time it could be quite beneficial to those who have a lot of gold to transfer between factions and don't want to get rocked by the AH taxes.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 6:39 AM   #22
Skulli
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I didnt notice any healing from Retch but Mangle! heals you with each hit.

And the spell Plague Infected - Spell - World of Warcraft is from some mobs in Dragonblight (Northend).
 
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Old 10/23/08, 7:03 AM   #23
Moogul
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Originally Posted by Skulli View Post
I didnt notice any healing from Retch but Mangle! heals you with each hit.
Retch definitely does heal you, and also, it's not just Mangle! - Auto-attacks heal you too, basically the entire point of a Zombie is to FEED!

We took over Razor Hill entirely last night, it was good fun. Before that we were trying to invade Orgrimmar but idiot ret paladins kept killing us before we could build a big enough swarm.

Also for those who haven't noticed, Lurch is an AoE buff - it hastens all Zombies near you, so if you've got a large group, just rotate lurches for constant speed buffs.

Once you make NPCs into Zombies, you can use the Beckon ability to make them attack your target, though it only works on NPC zombies that aren't currently engaged in combat.

Falling damage definitely turns you into a Zombie if you die.

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Old 10/23/08, 7:29 AM   #24
baghwan2
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Alleria
Bunch of us tried to infect Magni, we exploded right on top of him, his two advisors next to him got infected but the debuff didn't touch him, guessing racial leaders are immune, the argent healer kinda just ignored us as long as we kept our distance. Our next target was to zombie the IF battleground masters which was a complete success, well maybe not in the eyes of the poor PvPers who couldn't cleanse the NPCs, got wondering how many people would be required to completely lock down all PvP masters between respawns and the 10min infection wait in all cities.

Also blue about cross faction communication and another hint towards finding zombie friends somewhere, doesn't really touch on the trading issue tho.

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Cross faction chat screenshot
Originally Posted by Zarhym
Zombies are members of the Scourge and can communicate with one another. It makes you wonder where else in the world zombies will find friends.
This is Putress' plague no? Has anyone tried to zombie talk to him, could also imagine the irony if he was susceptible to the plague, put Varimathras in this boat as well.
 
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Old 10/23/08, 7:32 AM   #25
Moogul
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Can you take the zombie debuff into instances? If so, has anyone tried doing 5-zombie ramparts?

Can you spread the plague cross-server via battlegrounds?

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