Graaaiiiinnnnssss...er, Scourge Invasion Thread - Page 2

mhr_78 · 10/23/08, 7:37 AM

Did anyone try visiting the eastern plaguelands to find scourge npc's that possibly give quests? Allthough frankly the eastern plaguelands are quite a long walk and it would make more sense if the npcs would hide in places close to the cities that have some sort of scourge lore.

Hogger maybe?

Bonafide · 10/23/08, 7:45 AM

I took the plague to Shattrath this morning on Trollbane (EU) just to find out I couldn't attack any players (of any faction) as a zombie since it is a sanctuary. Maybe that was obvious but I actually thought it would work. Though I did manage to infect people and some NPC:s by using Retch. The only NPC:s that were hostile while I was a zombie was the Shattrath Peace Keepers. All other mobs were neutral and did not attack me even if I threw Retch at them.

I had to go to work shortly after so I didn't have time to wait and see how far the plague spread and to what extent but it did spread to a few more NPC:s before I logged off.

Arzja · 10/23/08, 7:56 AM

Originally Posted by mhr_78

Did anyone try visiting the eastern plaguelands to find scourge npc's that possibly give quests? Allthough frankly the eastern plaguelands are quite a long walk and it would make more sense if the npcs would hide in places close to the cities that have some sort of scourge lore.

Hogger maybe?

I went to Stratholme in the hope that one of the bosses would talk to me but apparently you can't open doors as a zombie. I suppose you could bring someone along to open the doors though. I ended up attacking the scarlet side but again, a door stopped me in my wily ways.
Seems that elites spawn two zombies from time to time though.

A Man In Black · 10/23/08, 8:03 AM

If you can find numerous, fast-respawning humanoids, it's possible to make self-sustaining zombie colonies. For example, the murlocs in the naga area of Quel'Danas spend about half their lives zombified ever since the event got underway.

• Vykromond · 10/23/08, 8:31 AM

This is Putress' plague no? Has anyone tried to zombie talk to him, could also imagine the irony if he was susceptible to the plague, put Varimathras in this boat as well.

No, I'm pretty sure this is Arthas's plague. Putress:

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Vaccine · 10/23/08, 8:42 AM

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I love the fact that CMs are hinting that the disease will become resistant to cleansing as it grows in strength.

Arakki · 10/23/08, 9:15 AM

Just did a quick run at Crossroads and Ratchet. I started alone and resulted in about 50 players all running as zombies. Alliance and Horde can communicate while being a zombie, also trading is possible. I will get a few screenshots of it showing the discussion and so forth.

Zombie army can use the run speed buff to have it constantly up and the goo from 20 zombies heals around 2-3k per second so even a bigger opponent isn't problemous.

ImageShack - Hosting :: zombies1un1.jpg - Crossroads, showing conversation between alliance and horde in [Zombie]
ImageShack - Hosting :: zombes2uu2.jpg - Crossroads flightmaster was an easy target
ImageShack - Hosting :: zombies3mb0.jpg - Ratchet Flightmaster got mutilated

All in all I think we had 50 players and around 200-300 minion zombies at best.

Moogul · 10/23/08, 9:23 AM

Do minion zombies have a time limit? That was something I was unable to determine last night.

Arakki · 10/23/08, 9:28 AM

Originally Posted by Moogul

Do minion zombies have a time limit? That was something I was unable to determine last night.

Doesn't seem so, but the health decay seems to be close to a static number and the level 35/40 guards don't have alot of health. We kept an NPC zombie alive for 3 minutes by chaining the green fog but when we stopped it, the zombie fell in about 30 seconds.

Putts · 10/23/08, 9:51 AM

Originally Posted by Moogul

Can you take the zombie debuff into instances? If so, has anyone tried doing 5-zombie ramparts?

Can you spread the plague cross-server via battlegrounds?

The zombie debuff can be taken into instances, but crossing through an instance portal after already becoming a zombie disconnected me, when i logged back in I was in the graveyard, similar to trying to take a Shat portal as a zombie.

I went to SM Library with the debuff, turned into a zombie, and proceeded to wreck havoc. I had an army of a good 30 zombies with me by the time I reached Arcanist Doan (who promptly AoE'd my entire army down).

In case you're curious, here's a picture: http://i33.tinypic.com/ws8oci.jpg

Addled · 10/23/08, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by boomix

I was getting massive number of resists when trying to cleanse disease on both my priest and paladin. It was working once in about fifteen tries.

This is on Malfurion server.

On my shaman (Moonrunner server) I was getting a bunch of resists. I got the disease by running through Goldshire, then tried Cure Disease on myself. It took almost half my mana bar to finally get the disease off (Granted my shaman is enhance spec with, on average, blue gear) but that is just a ridiculous failure rate.

Originally Posted by Vaccine

I love the fact that CMs are hinting that the disease will become resistant to cleansing as it grows in strength.

The disease is already extremely difficult to remove as a player character, I wonder if the CMs are implying that the Argent Healers will slowly become ineffective themselves.

If so, we could easily lose whole cities to the plague, which is probably the conclusion that Blizzard wants us to figure out so they can unveil the "destroyed" Orgrimmar.

Zomglazerpew · 10/23/08, 10:05 AM

A few of my friends and I tried to go to Org. as zombies and all disconnected, and when we reconnected we were all dead. But we found out that killing the Argent Healer by the flight plan in Shatt. is fun but lags the hell out of you because when the Argent Healer explodes one of the people you are attempting this with it usually hits the Flight Plan guy triggering all of his Griffins and Wyvern to come out and stack on top of him. I went from 60 FPS to 3 FPS in no time.

teeny · 10/23/08, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Putts

The zombie debuff can be taken into instances, but crossing through an instance portal after already becoming a zombie disconnected me, when i logged back in I was in the graveyard, similar to trying to take a Shat portal as a zombie.

You will get disconnected every time you port somewhere : zeppelins, Shat ports, instances, etc...
I got this bug all night long was able to reconnect at my destination every time, never ended up in a graveyard.
I dont think it was mentionned in the thread, but you're able to take opposite factions' ports in Shat when in zombie form, lots of fun doing this (and long corpse-run as well).
You are also able to talk with players from other faction in /s mode when zombified (yes , even on Pvp servers).

Kettle · 10/23/08, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Hungtar

Falling damage will do the trick, too.

One exception seems to be for Spirit of Redemption priests. My efforts at fall deaths just resulted in, well, death.

Morlark · 10/23/08, 10:21 AM

Regarding the faction leader immunity, we actually successfully managed to infect Vol'jin a few hours ago on Neptulon-EU, so I'm not sure if only some of them are immune, or if they're merely extremely resistant and we just got lucky. Someone on the official forums reported that Thrall displayed an 'Immune' message when they tried to infect him, which lends credence to the idea that only some of them are immune. But nevertheless, it's definitely possible to infect Vol'jin, so it might be true of some of the other leaders too. Possibly worth having a go at the gnome king?

Irulan · 10/23/08, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Morlark

Regarding the faction leader immunity, we actually successfully managed to infect Vol'jin a few hours ago on Neptulon-EU, so I'm not sure if only some of them are immune, or if they're merely extremely resistant and we just got lucky. Someone on the official forums reported that Thrall displayed an 'Immune' message when they tried to infect him, which lends credence to the idea that only some of them are immune. But nevertheless, it's definitely possible to infect Vol'jin, so it might be true of some of the other leaders too. Possibly worth having a go at the gnome king?

I have succesfully infected and killed the gnome king this morning.

Putts · 10/23/08, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Morlark

Regarding the faction leader immunity, we actually successfully managed to infect Vol'jin a few hours ago on Neptulon-EU, so I'm not sure if only some of them are immune, or if they're merely extremely resistant and we just got lucky. Someone on the official forums reported that Thrall displayed an 'Immune' message when they tried to infect him, which lends credence to the idea that only some of them are immune. But nevertheless, it's definitely possible to infect Vol'jin, so it might be true of some of the other leaders too. Possibly worth having a go at the gnome king?

This could possibly have to do with the fact that the troll and gnome leaders are not counted as requirements for the For The Horde!/For The Alliance! achievements. Either Blizz does not consider these 2 NPCs to be "true" faction leaders, or they want to avoid an easy way to exploit the system in order to gain those achievements.

EDIT: Although another observation that I've made is that turning a boss into a zombie does not give you kill credit as far as Achievements go, at least not in the case of my SM run detailed above.

Tharamis · 10/23/08, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Arzja

I went to Stratholme in the hope that one of the bosses would talk to me but apparently you can't open doors as a zombie. I suppose you could bring someone along to open the doors though. I ended up attacking the scarlet side but again, a door stopped me in my wily ways.
Seems that elites spawn two zombies from time to time though.

Actually this is only half true. I went last night into Undead Strat and turned into a zombie after the first two gates were opened. None of the npcs talk to you, but for some reason you are allowed to open the last gates before the Aboms, and the two doors leading to Baron. You can even open the cage of the victim of the 45 min Baron run. We turned her into a zombie. Unfortunately, we still couldn't talk with any NPCs.

mikya · 10/23/08, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Moogul

Can you take the zombie debuff into instances? If so, has anyone tried doing 5-zombie ramparts?

Can you spread the plague cross-server via battlegrounds?

You can certainly take the debuffs into instances. I was in a zombie raid in Westfall and after being beaten off by a group of Paladins we decided to go take Moonbook instead and a few of us wandered into Deadmines. We got DC entering the instance portal but after reconnecting we were fine to zombify everything up to the room before Sneed. However, as a zombie, we could not interact with the door to his room so we couldn't go any further though I suppose if we had an alive person with us there would have been no reason we could not have kept going.

Darkwain · 10/23/08, 10:55 AM

I was wondering about the hints that were given about whare undead like to hang out, and was wondering whether the mobs in Kara became freindly now you are technicaly dead as a zombie.

Would be fun if it was possible to go in there and chill with Morose

Arangom · 10/23/08, 10:58 AM

I wonder what would happen if you went to CoT Durnholde and infect Thrall, if that is even possible, I'll have to check that later.

Exemplar · 10/23/08, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Arangom

I wonder what would happen if you went to CoT Durnholde and infect Thrall, if that is even possible, I'll have to check that later.

Better yet. Infect an alt. Log off alt. Wait for Wrath. Level main to 80. Log on alt. Spread disease to friend. Have friend disease main. Go to CoT: Cleansing of Stratholme. Infect Arthas...

I'm curious if they'll cleanse it from characters on login, eventually. Otherwise I expect a fair number of people to sit on infected alts and bring them out for special occasions to start the plague again. Shouldn't be too hard to re-infect yourself and log back off to repeat later.

Kageyama · 10/23/08, 11:20 AM

Anyone try talking to abercrombie in darkshire?

boomix · 10/23/08, 11:24 AM

Is cult of the damned in beta right now? Maybe someone from beta can answer that one.

I suspect we are looking for whomever delivered infected crates to Booty Bay and possibly cult of the damned members hidden among populace.

coldbear · 10/23/08, 11:56 AM

Gnome king infected and dead
King Magni immune
Lady Liadrin infected

Hmmm... the human dude at LHC who's actually a Lich in disguise? The one you turn in the Naxx40 KT Phylactery to?

...it's not him. I'm thinking that this world event will progress and there'll be some obvious person to talk to.