Manes

I know I'm going to shoot myself in the foot here, but I predict the mats for mongoose spiking soon (it already has to a degree on my server) with the removal of titanguard in the next patch, there won't be enough supply to meet the demand.

 

Longtooth

I would like to know how you guys think will the new LW-leg-kit influence the market
It adds +40Resilience+28Stamina on legs and is made of 2x Arctic Fur + 4xEternal Earth +1xFrozenOrb
I am not sure how much PvPers will demand this kit but i hope that in their search for more Resilience in hopes that it will solve the Burst problems, might make this a realy nice kit for every class out there.
I am thinking that the Orb's might increase their price by just a little due to a good supply right now on our market (20g in trade 25 in AH) and if we asume that Miners have too much Eternal Earth in ther bank and don't even bother listing it on the low prices it is atm in AH, meaning that there will be enought supply for that too.
I am left with the hope that the only drastic increse of prices should go to Arctic Fur since it has quite a limited supply as it is.

One other thought i want to share is about my investment in "Ink of the Sea". I have stocked ~ 60 stacks of ink (not a huge investment) that i have bought on between 20~25g per stack. Also a nice amount of "Eternal Life", but i have stumbled upon this dilema: Should i make the cards or sell the stock when the price jumps (The price of ink is already double)
Yes i know that there is "RNG" involved in making the cards but with all the randomness i will end up with few cards of each deck undercuting people for cards in AH and etc while the raw material will sell with better overall profit, or not?
Having access to an Inscriptor + the maths will net a 100g card value if i craft them. However the rest of the decs (besides Nobles) go for ~1000gold

 

Njald

Probably a valid observation but remember that the mats for all the lichKing weapon enchants are going down a fair bit and thus the dpsers who have been to stingy to enchant berserker before might now splash for it and thus lowering their demand for mongoose. Probably wont offset the loss of titanguard and the following rush to mongoose but might be something to bear in mind.

 

Orin

Longtooth, I have done the same as you with Ink, but my expectation is that the value of cards will drop because a few other people on my realm are doing the same thing I believe.

 

bbartlog

Nitpicking maybe... but I think you mean that the *price* of the cards will drop. The value to the buyer(s) remains the same, just due to the increased supply you end up with more buyers at a lower price point. And if it weren't so there wouldn't be any money to be made on speculation.

 

PimpStar

Providing the inks to the gamblers is a safe way to make a reasonable profit while minimizing risk.

 

Reps

For those who say they have 100 orbs sitting in their bank.. how? I've run like 10-15 heroics, and have one. By my math you would have to run 1000-1500 heroics in order to obtain a hundred. (even buying them with emblems of heroism.

 

◊ foolish_fool

They are BoE. Occasionally I see people in trade with comments like "WTB Frozen Orbx50, 25g each". This would basically be how you end up with a significant number banked.

Shaman | Priest | Warrior

 

Stealthcat

I have bought the leather DPS bracers for Valor badges and put that up in auction. It is quite an investment of time, but epics tend to sell for 2,5k on my server. That would make up for the raiding cost + profit (for me at least)

 

Lucinde

Actually, assuming everyone always greeds them you have a 20% chance of winning one. Running 150 heroics would get you ~37 Orbs on average and about 500 badges which is another 50 Orbs. I know I've easily run 100 heroics since release and I know several people in my guild that have been doing at least double that.

That's how you get 100 orbs.

And, as mentioned, you can just buy them from the trade channel. On my server AH prices are 60-65 an Orb, but they're a pain to sell because they just don't get used a lot. Non-crafted epics are a lot better and infiniately easier to get than in TBC. The only market they have are basically the various armor kits. The result is that people just want to unload them and are spamming them on trade chat for 25-30 gold.

 

Bidule

A good "trick" with levelling enchanting and using vellums (especially when Ink of the Sea is cheap, uncertain about price changes in 3.0.8 but will surely go up), that allows skipping the "bad reputation" from Scrolls.
Level on Vellums, store them, and trade them for mats through the trade channel, re-sell/re-use the mats.
You might not get the full money of your investment as it depends on the current price as you enchanted on the vellum, but it allows you to level quickly, take advantage of the "interaction" in the trade channel vs people rarely buying scrolls of the AH and makes the whole levelling process cheaper, and less time consuming (less camping of trade channel).
Some of the levelling enchants are actually quite good, so you can level quickly without having to wait for 10 people wanting the enchant!

This strategy however works best if you level enchanting as you're levelling as you get quite a supply of enchanting mats from quest rewards/random drops that you can use directly.

 

Eldessya

Going back to the discussion on enchanters paying for the dubious honor of skilling up enchanting, it's been happening on my server for weeks. I don't find it coincidental that it began at about the same time that enchant scrolls stopped being worth the bother of selling, though I don't think that the below cost public enchanting was the cause of the scroll price drop. The reality is that most people take up enchanting as a raiding aid, and as such most guilds want one(or more) enchanter with as many recipes as possible. That's my theory on why enchanting has people so desperate to learn recipes that won't make them any money.

 

Kierkan

Word

 

Reps

I was wondering about orbs because on my server, with our f'ed up economy, orbs are 130g each. And I have one. Appearantly I've run 9 heroics, won one.

Off topic:
How long does it take to get a group together for an instance? Yesterday it took me over two hours to find a tank and healer for Nexus. And then we broke up because the healer and tank didn't work well together.

edit:

PATCH DAY!!

 

Zupal

That was me last week. I speculated heavily that Orbs are going to go up a decent percentage due to the JC cooldown and new armor patch requirement (including new patch). Even if they don't go up immediately, their price will definitely go up as the rate of consumption from the JC daily CD probably won't keep pace with the amount of orbs being brought into the market (partly because I suspect heroics are being run less frequently as toons are capping rep and raiding more).

Anyway, we'll see if the bet pays off in the coming couple weeks.

 

Marthisdil

Thing is - on the server I play on - cheaper to just buy the uncut gems you want than pay the going rate of orbs. or buy stacks of Saronite for 20-25g a stack, prospect it, get 1 rare gem at least ber stack processed, and go on. Far too many ways to come out ahead than doing the orb cooldown - at least until orbs get insanely cheap by comparison...Perhaps if you can get them for 25g or less - maybe 30g - will they be worthwhile to use the JC cooldown on.

 

ChaguraED

If Relics of Ulduar are losing their soulbound status, would I be able to profit from selling my excess? Or should I expect to see a glut of these on the AH for low prices?
Assuming that Arcane tomes used to sell for ~13G on my server, would that be an acceptable reference point for these Relics?

 

McInaction

Don't sell them individually, I would find out how many are used per rep turn in and sell them in stacks of that number. Buyers don't want to click a hundred times and don't want excess relics wasting space.

 

Pixen

Relics of Ulduar have a much higher drop rate than Arcane Tomes. The signets might be a more helpful comparison, but even then people have other ways to max our their Hodir rep (dailies). Either way, if the Relics truly do not bind on pickup I'd expect to see some high priced stacks at the AH for the next few days.

 

Conoris

Though it looks like we've still got a couple hours until it can be settled one way or the other for certain, at least one blue poster seems to be throwing the whole non-soulbound-relics thing into doubt:

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> [3.0.8 Sons of Hodir] Make Gold Off Your Rep

 

Daenerys

I was thinking the opposite...anyone who's done the Hodir grind to exalted should have 200+ of these banked (I know I do), and everyone is going to be trying to sell them starting tonight. I feel like holding on to them for a couple weeks for the stock to thin out might net higher revenues.

 

Pyros

I'm dropping mine on my alt to get at least honored(can't be bothered even doing the dailies up to honored again), but yeah most people who are exalted by now probably have 200-300 in bank from killing all the giants and elems and stuff in the cave. So I think the market will be flooded for a few days, but probably not that long, I know a lot of people in my guild who simply were running 1 or 2 dailies(the spear one mostly) and they'll spend a decent amount of gold to get exalted right away. For every exalted, there might be a revered willing to buy, and you still need quite a lot(10/250rep).

 

◊ vorpalblade

Just to put a number to it:

Neutral to Friendly -> 3000rep -> 120 Relics
Friendly to Honored -> 6000rep -> 240relics
Honored to Revered -> 12000rep -> 480relics
Revered to Exalted -> 21000rep -> 840relics

So 1,680 relics to go from neutral to exalted.

In light of that, that's a fair amount of demand, considering a lot of people will be lazy or are trying to rep alts. The market will probably bottom out for a while while the surplus relics get soaked up, but these should hold a reasonable value for quite some time I would think. (Assuming of course that they remain unbound).

 

Zupal

Sounds somewhat server-specific at least on the 20-25g per stack of saronite. Besides 1 orb is worth 2-4 rares as well as the chance per dragon's eye.

Anyway, prices of orbs of spiked to 40G (on my server) which may or may not remain a constant price. Either way, buying low last week was/is a definite money maker.

 

thefatman999

One thing that I have discovered recently is that prospecting stacks of Thorium ore can be very profitable. Even with stacks going as high as 60g a stack, I normally get at least 3 gems which sell for 30g plus and sometimes 1 which is only 10-15g. This may be because I am on a large server and have a lot of people trying to level verious professions all the time, but I was surprised how much money I could make quickly just buy buying old thorium ore and turning it to gems.