One thing that I have discovered recently is that prospecting stacks of Thorium ore can be very profitable. Even with stacks going as high as 60g a stack, I normally get at least 3 gems which sell for 30g plus and sometimes 1 which is only 10-15g. This may be because I am on a large server and have a lot of people trying to level verious professions all the time, but I was surprised how much money I could make quickly just buy buying old thorium ore and turning it to gems.
On the same line I had levelled Mining and JC on my main, and it's amazing the types of things people buy firstly - namely TBC simple gems - and that you can make a lot of money back by selling much of the ore that you don't use for JC (or whatever profession you are coupling mining with).
Also just finished levelling my alt(which was previously my main) up, and cleared out his bank the other day - some people buy some crazy things...
Sold 10 zesty clam meat for 5g... (Part of cooking I believe?)
3 Khorium for 10g...
Some uncut green TBC gems for about 20g total.
Don't underestimate the power of random 'stuff' eh?
On the same line I had levelled Mining and JC on my main, and it's amazing the types of things people buy firstly - namely TBC simple gems - and that you can make a lot of money back by selling much of the ore that you don't use for JC (or whatever profession you are coupling mining with).
Also just finished levelling my alt(which was previously my main) up, and cleared out his bank the other day - some people buy some crazy things...
Sold 10 zesty clam meat for 5g... (Part of cooking I believe?)
3 Khorium for 10g...
Some uncut green TBC gems for about 20g total.
Don't underestimate the power of random 'stuff' eh?
I can attest to this also. I was powerleveling cooking and had to buy a stack of [Darkclaw Lobster] for about 75g. I had 5 left over by the time I hit 300. I put those 5 back on the Auction House accidentally for 500g instead of 50g and the stack of 5 sold.
I believe its one of the only ways to get cooking to 300 so If you don't mind fishing in Azshara for an hour a week those net a great return. I'm not sure if people are lazy and don't want to do it themselves, or if it is just the I need it now powerleveling aspect of the game but the 290-300 grind of most professions seem to be some of the most expensive reagents to obtain.
These are all great money makers and go relatively unfarmed.
If you are like me and never bothered to turn in Ethereum Prison Key, you can still go do that and DE all the items. Makes for a great one-time source of GPE and [Arcane Dust]
On the same line I had levelled Mining and JC on my main, and it's amazing the types of things people buy firstly - namely TBC simple gems - and that you can make a lot of money back by selling much of the ore that you don't use for JC (or whatever profession you are coupling mining with).
Also just finished levelling my alt(which was previously my main) up, and cleared out his bank the other day - some people buy some crazy things...
Sold 10 zesty clam meat for 5g... (Part of cooking I believe?)
3 Khorium for 10g...
Some uncut green TBC gems for about 20g total.
Don't underestimate the power of random 'stuff' eh?
If I learned one thing during these past years of playing it's that you should never sell cheap or vendor anything white - who knows when it might be needed in the future. So I have one alt that is designated as a pure trash can - I send to her literally everything white quality (except white weapons and armor which I vendor or do not pick up at all). The first time it made me a huge profit was with the opening of AQ gates, when all of a sudden Arthas' Tears was in huge demand. The other items that were a nice profit, just for keeping them a long time on my alt, were the Small Eggs (the first Winter Veil only) Hearts of Fire and the Cores of Earth.
Anyway, the most recent surprising cash I made was from selling Deeprock Salt during the Winter Veil festivities, as it was needed as a quest item for the "Hero of the Day" quest. I had about 10 stacks stashed (from farming the Cartel rep and exploring 2/3 man MC runs). They sold literally within minutes, for anywhere between 10 gold per item at the beginning to 6 gold near the end. Maybe I could have charged more, but I must admit I would have felt guilty :p
The other "random" good seller is Bear Flank, which I also had in huge quantities from farming the Wintersabers rep for the Exalted title. They sell for up 100 gold per stack, although this is far from steady - as the only people that buy them are leveling cooking. Last few stacks went for 75. Might even sell better now that Northern Gourmet is achievable, as people might start from scratch to get the title.
I also have to say I enjoy these "long term" investments (if by investment you can mean "not getting rid of it"), they of course cannot support raiding or other costs I have, but they are just a little joy-trip when they do make 500-1500 gold in a few days.
I agree also. It's ALWAYS a good idea to send any superfluous stuff you come across to an alt. I mail 100% of the non-gray non-equippable items I come across to my bank alt, and then maybe once a week I sort through my bags and see what's actually worth something and what's not. While it's not going to make or break anything, it does end up being an extra 1-200g every week, on stuff I normally would have vendored.
The other thing I've been making a small amount of income on the side with is the blues that drop off Onyxia. I solo her every reset for the ~200g, and was originally just vendoring everything she dropped. A few resets back I just checked the prices on the blues out of curiosity, and it ended up being almost as much (if not more, for good ones) as the pure gold drop.
In the same regard I found it highly productive to run a few rounds of DM east again with my mining/ench rogue.
Thorium demand has gone up by loads from all the JC rerollers.
Few but a steady amount of people still need old enchants and mats.
I can attest to this also. I was powerleveling cooking and had to buy a stack of [Darkclaw Lobster] for about 75g. I had 5 left over by the time I hit 300. I put those 5 back on the Auction House accidentally for 500g instead of 50g and the stack of 5 sold.
I believe its one of the only ways to get cooking to 300 ...
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The other "random" good seller is Bear Flank, which I also had in huge quantities from farming the Wintersabers rep for the Exalted title. They sell for up 100 gold per stack, although this is far from steady - as the only people that buy them are leveling cooking. Last few stacks went for 75. Might even sell better now that Northern Gourmet is achievable, as people might start from scratch to get the title.
[Darkclaw Lobster] was indeed one of the only ways to level cooking or farming worm meat in silithus after doing the quest. However blizz introduced 2 recipes using Bear Flank as ingredient that alow leveling to 300
Leveling to 375 however requires crawdads wich i believe should be more expensive due to how they are aquired.
The [Elder Brown Bear Flank] is around 50% drop from bears and the [Darkclaw Lobster] is just fished up in open watter while the [Furious Crawdad] has to be fished from mixed highland scools if i am not wrong.
However all 3 items varry 20~30g per stack on my server and if farming cooking materials i preffer farming for chilled meat. [Chilled Meat] is used in often in the daily cooking and if nothing changes about [Item not found!] the demand for "The Spice" would even increase when ulduar is presented or people start to push for DMG meters etc. Even in 10 man raids or achievements like 21 people doing 25 man raids.
My alt needed 50 [Item not found!] that he killed for half an hour and then a bit later bought 40 [Item not found!] for 50g to level my cooking. However he will be needing [Chilled Meat] for maybe an year to come
Having 3 toons with cooking i use all my free time in farming chilled meat + skinning the animals that drop it.
1x[Borean Leather] = 65 Silver (no DE) 99% chance ***
1x[Arctic Fur] = 80 gold 1% chance (80 silver on average per gorilla) *$*
1x[Chilled Meat] = 2g ~50% chance (average 1g per mob)
1x[Swatch of Gorilla Hair] = 15 Silver
Making 1 Gorilla worth 2.60 gold
I do not estimate in that price the chilled meat that i use for the quests that eventually turns into Spice and sells higher.
*** I have already mentioned how is that working in a previous post.
*$* The Skin chance on [Arctic Fur] seems more like 5% to me but as we have discussed here it might be only in my imagination
Edit: Added links "yay" + some grammar fix
Leveling to 375 however requires crawdads wich i believe should be more expensive due to how they are aquired.
You only need 350 cooking though to get started in Northrend, though on the subject of leveling it to 375 on Outland mats, the outland offhand fish also provide skillups all the way to 375 (and beyond I believe, not to sure about that anymore).
So, not really needing those to get started on Northrend cooking hasn't really made them more expensive.
Stopokingme: Point taken
From 350 do 375 can be used crawdads and outland raw fish/meat. They all do have similar price range anyway
I have this idea offering Cooking leveling in Trade. Something like "/2 600g to level your cooking to 375 my maths."
spam ... will requiere around 15 recipes and some prefarmed pre fished food + a trip to Gatgetzan.
The only part i find hard is when recieps become green and they do not level the skill on every new craft making it hard to deal with stupid people. The profesion link might outweight this. Have anyone thought about that too?
This could be an interesting way of making gold. Providing services to those that do not have the knoweledge or skill to gather the needed materials or time etc.
To pay a reasonable amount of money to level 1 profesion for 30~60 minutes might be something people will like to do.
I did just that during the Winter Veil paying 750 gold to some guy in trade for cooking 1-400. He had all the mats / recipes required and in less than 1h I was doing my daily cooking quest
The other thing I've been making a small amount of income on the side with is the blues that drop off Onyxia. I solo her every reset for the ~200g, and was originally just vendoring everything she dropped. A few resets back I just checked the prices on the blues out of curiosity, and it ended up being almost as much (if not more, for good ones) as the pure gold drop.
Hope the blues stay hot. Onyxia's pockets got a lot shallower and she now carries about 55g.
Just a quick comment; I noticed a few pages back that someone commented that they did not think that you could get Arctic Furs off of a mob that skins for something else, and I've yet to see the comment addressed again; ie, Jormungar scales. This is incorrect, as I farm Jormungar daily for the Hodir (while I'm killing slimes), and because since so many people kill them and leave them lying, and also because their spawn rate is fantastic. I usually get 2+ Arctic Furs a day as well, in addition to the Leather and Scales. Just wanted to clear that up: Furs WILL drop off mobs that have other special skinning drops.
Just a quick comment; I noticed a few pages back that someone commented that they did not think that you could get Arctic Furs off of a mob that skins for something else, and I've yet to see the comment addressed again; ie, Jormungar scales. This is incorrect, as I farm Jormungar daily for the Hodir (while I'm killing slimes), and because since so many people kill them and leave them lying, and also because their spawn rate is fantastic. I usually get 2+ Arctic Furs a day as well, in addition to the Leather and Scales. Just wanted to clear that up: Furs WILL drop off mobs that have other special skinning drops.
Yes my bad. That is a part in a post that i wanted to remove but forgot. Indeed they do skin of all mobs.
Also mobs in instances have chance to skin 1-2-3 Borean Leather or Chitin/ice scale + have a higher chance to skin an arctic fur.
If I learned one thing during these past years of playing it's that you should never sell cheap or vendor anything white - who knows when it might be needed in the future. So I have one alt that is designated as a pure trash can - I send to her literally everything white quality (except white weapons and armor which I vendor or do not pick up at all). The first time it made me a huge profit was with the opening of AQ gates, when all of a sudden Arthas' Tears was in huge demand. The other items that were a nice profit, just for keeping them a long time on my alt, were the Small Eggs (the first Winter Veil only) Hearts of Fire and the Cores of Earth.
Anyway, the most recent surprising cash I made was from selling Deeprock Salt during the Winter Veil festivities, as it was needed as a quest item for the "Hero of the Day" quest. I had about 10 stacks stashed (from farming the Cartel rep and exploring 2/3 man MC runs). They sold literally within minutes, for anywhere between 10 gold per item at the beginning to 6 gold near the end. Maybe I could have charged more, but I must admit I would have felt guilty :p
The other "random" good seller is Bear Flank, which I also had in huge quantities from farming the Wintersabers rep for the Exalted title. They sell for up 100 gold per stack, although this is far from steady - as the only people that buy them are leveling cooking. Last few stacks went for 75. Might even sell better now that Northern Gourmet is achievable, as people might start from scratch to get the title.
I also have to say I enjoy these "long term" investments (if by investment you can mean "not getting rid of it"), they of course cannot support raiding or other costs I have, but they are just a little joy-trip when they do make 500-1500 gold in a few days.
There's a business term for this in the real world: the long tail. Basically Amazon and companies like them make good money holding uncommon and low volume items for long periods of time until someone really wants one, and then charging a premium. Same principle.
One thing that I have discovered recently is that prospecting stacks of Thorium ore can be very profitable. Even with stacks going as high as 60g a stack, I normally get at least 3 gems which sell for 30g plus and sometimes 1 which is only 10-15g. This may be because I am on a large server and have a lot of people trying to level verious professions all the time, but I was surprised how much money I could make quickly just buy buying old thorium ore and turning it to gems.
Same situation on my realm, people are just following powerleveling guides for professions and they don't care about prospecting the ore, they want XX azerothian diamonds, xx opals and so on.
My only complain is that thorium ore is in a ridicolous small supply.. wish farming azeroth ore wasn't so annoying. :P
Well it's been a couple days since badges for gems and Icy Prisms have come in, and right now the price on some of my more profitable cuts have dropped by as much as 30g (one in particular has dropped from 93g to 60g) and the AH is practically flooded with them. I can't for the life of me decide if this is a direct result of the new sources of gems or it's just a short term fluctuation (after all I've seen the market in a similar state before).
Basically right now I'm struggling to decide if I should buy up all of these cheap gems or just wait and see. I'm not prepared to put my stock up at the current prices yet; on some days even at my preferred sale price I have trouble keeping them in stock. I know I'd regret selling out now if this turns out to be temporary and I end up out of stock on a day where I could be generating lots of sales.
Any thoughts from other jewel crafters? Have you experienced any post-3.0.8 dips in gem prices? And do you expect them to be permanent?
I have noticed many of the gem prices have dropped about 30-40g as you say. I have also noticed that Dragons eyes have dropped about 20g in the same period. The lower priced gems seem to be less effected, but ones such as Runed Scarlet rubies have dropped as much as 50g. I would guess this has to do with what you said as far as the new Icy Prisms and from being able to buy gems with badges. There seem to be a very large number of gems on the auction house and it is difficult to keep them at the lowest price.
Any thoughts from other jewel crafters? Have you experienced any post-3.0.8 dips in gem prices? And do you expect them to be permanent?
I can only speak for my server, but every jewelcrafter seems to be making Icy prisms and cracking them. Gem prices are lower, which is what you'd expect. Supply increases where demand does not, therefore prices drop. Similarly Frozen orbs, which I stocked up on at 35g, have doubled in price. Demand increases where supply does not, therefore prices rise.
My initial impression is that this will slowly tail off. Once the business minded jewelcrafters go through their stock of orbs, prices should rise on jewels. I do not expect prices on frozen orbs to lower to their old prices, given the new demand for them. I do expect them to drift lower though, just not to the point where I was buying.
I can only speak for my server, but every jewelcrafter seems to be making Icy prisms and cracking them. Gem prices are lower, which is what you'd expect. Supply increases where demand does not, therefore prices drop. Similarly Frozen orbs, which I stocked up on at 35g, have doubled in price. Demand increases where supply does not, therefore prices rise.
My initial impression is that this will slowly tail off. Once the business minded jewelcrafters go through their stock of orbs, prices should rise on jewels. I do not expect prices on frozen orbs to lower to their old prices, given the new demand for them. I do expect them to drift lower though, just not to the point where I was buying.
Yes I can confirm that, orb prices doubled (50g > 100g) at first day on my server and then rolled back to 80g once "make a prism" fever gone. Also Relics of Ulduar sold for 75g x10 in first hours now it's 25-30g.
Surprisingly, I didn't notice price drop for Saronite Ore and very few (2 pages) listed on AH comparing to usual picture, any ideas why?
The only thing that sustains one through life is the consciousness of the immense inferiority of everybody else, and this is a feeling that I have always cultivated.
Another practice I have been using is selling seldom listed Glyphs. I usually only list 3-5 a day, but they almost always sell. My AH toon is a level 50 with 375 Inscription so it makes it even easier for me. I find the class that is made with [Jadefire Ink] has the least listed overall. The herbs for this ink are found in Hinterlands and STV predominantly. I also include glyphs that almost anyone of that class will use. Here are my top sellers.
With Saronite prices having plummeted below 20g/stack on my server, and Eternal Earth (/crystallized) Holding steady below 5g, it's easy, if mind numbing, money to manufacture these for vendor. Hopefully it'll take some of the edge off the cobalt nerf for those Blacksmiths who were counting on it for income. 5G in mats, 10g to vendor, easy cash.
Has anyone else noticed the horrific drop rate nerf dor the JC daily? I'm hearing reports of needing ~90 kills to get the drop. I personally killed ~50 mobs before giving up as I missed the turn in deadline for the day.
Has anyone else noticed the horrific drop rate nerf dor the JC daily? I'm hearing reports of needing ~90 kills to get the drop. I personally killed ~50 mobs before giving up as I missed the turn in deadline for the day.
Having done the daily for 2 days i have noted no change in the drop chance. 5-6 kills before drop respectivly
01/20/09, 9:52 PM
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