Has anyone else noticed the horrific drop rate nerf dor the JC daily? I'm hearing reports of needing ~90 kills to get the drop. I personally killed ~50 mobs before giving up as I missed the turn in deadline for the day.
Make sure you were not in a raid group. You can skill as many mobs as you want but the item will never drop in a raid.
Has anyone else noticed the horrific drop rate nerf dor the JC daily? I'm hearing reports of needing ~90 kills to get the drop. I personally killed ~50 mobs before giving up as I missed the turn in deadline for the day.
Sometimes, especially late at night you might be in a raid group and not realize it.
I have done the quest every day, and it never took more that a few kills to get the item.
With Saronite prices having plummeted below 20g/stack on my server, and Eternal Earth (/crystallized) Holding steady below 5g, it's easy, if mind numbing, money to manufacture these for vendor. Hopefully it'll take some of the edge off the cobalt nerf for those Blacksmiths who were counting on it for income. 5G in mats, 10g to vendor, easy cash.
Consider sharding the legplates. They disenchant into 1 Dream shard, which considering the latest changes, should run above 10g in the AH. And that odd [Abyss Crystal] won't hurt either.
Consider sharding the legplates. They disenchant into 1 Dream shard, which considering the latest changes, should run above 10g in the AH. And that odd [Abyss Crystal] won't hurt either.
At least on my server, Dream shards just aren't selling at that price point - they just won't move, and everyone already has too many of them banked anyway.
Consider sharding the legplates. They disenchant into 1 Dream shard, which considering the latest changes, should run above 10g in the AH. And that odd [Abyss Crystal] won't hurt either.
Legs are BoP, so unless you run both BS and Enchanting that's a no go. Also, from my experience, blues haven't been occasionally disenchanting into epic crystals since TBC. Well either that or I've been extremely unlucky.
Well it's been a couple days since badges for gems and Icy Prisms have come in, and right now the price on some of my more profitable cuts have dropped by as much as 30g (one in particular has dropped from 93g to 60g) and the AH is practically flooded with them. I can't for the life of me decide if this is a direct result of the new sources of gems or it's just a short term fluctuation (after all I've seen the market in a similar state before).
Basically right now I'm struggling to decide if I should buy up all of these cheap gems or just wait and see. I'm not prepared to put my stock up at the current prices yet; on some days even at my preferred sale price I have trouble keeping them in stock. I know I'd regret selling out now if this turns out to be temporary and I end up out of stock on a day where I could be generating lots of sales.
Any thoughts from other jewel crafters? Have you experienced any post-3.0.8 dips in gem prices? And do you expect them to be permanent?
I'd assume long term, it'll mainly affect the high value gems. I regemmed my off spec set on 3.0.8 and on the AH it was 100g for uncut scarlet rubies and 50g for uncut monarch topaz. Anyone checking AH before exchanging emblems will buy the rubies from emblems and monarch topaz from AH. The net effect I see is the ruby prices going downwards and stablizing. Depending on your server raiding population. It's easy to full clear all 10 and 25man content in a week, netting a raider nearly 60 emblems a week. This doesn't even account for heroics. I don't see myself needing more than 6 gems a week even on my alt. From this point of view, I very much doubt the gem prices will bounce back up.
Make sure you were not in a raid group. You can skill as many mobs as you want but the item will never drop in a raid.
You can loot Scourge Curio for JC daily in raid, it's not a quest item itself, doesn't gives direct credit. Yesterday looted it from giant trash between Gluth and Thaddius.
The only thing that sustains one through life is the consciousness of the immense inferiority of everybody else, and this is a feeling that I have always cultivated.
You can loot Scourge Curio for JC daily in raid, it's not a quest item itself, doesn't gives direct credit. Yesterday looted it from giant trash between Gluth and Thaddius.
Aye, surprised myself with that once. It's the only one though, all the others need you to be out the raid so far as I'm aware. I've also had a Scourge Curio drop for me when I wasn't even on the quest - the ivory daily was the one in my log.
Well it's been a couple days since badges for gems and Icy Prisms have come in, and right now the price on some of my more profitable cuts have dropped by as much as 30g
Any thoughts from other jewel crafters? Have you experienced any post-3.0.8 dips in gem prices? And do you expect them to be permanent?
I attribute the change more from the change in mining than Icy Prism. I now take two mammoth mining backs per run. I always timed my runs to buff cycles using the long term Paladin buff for Sanctuary and Righteous Fury. Pre 3.08 I would be lucky to fill two thirds of one of those bags, now I am nearly half way into the second.
My luck rate with Icy Prism using two characters is not sufficient to warrant it when compared to the costs of Orbs; 140 and up at times. Numbers wise it just makes more sense to spend a half hour mining now which nets many blue gems, a ridiculous amount of green many of which I vendor, and finally the kicker is the eternal earth and shadow which I use JC to create rings to disenchant further extending that half hour.
Legs are BoP, so unless you run both BS and Enchanting that's a no go. Also, from my experience, blues haven't been occasionally disenchanting into epic crystals since TBC. Well either that or I've been extremely unlucky.
D'oh, missed the BoP part. Nevermind...
And you´re correct. I used to trust Enchantrix which states they disenchant into abyss with 1% chance, but wowhead only lists dreamshards...
Another practice I have been using is selling seldom listed Glyphs. I usually only list 3-5 a day, but they almost always sell. My AH toon is a level 50 with 375 Inscription so it makes it even easier for me. I find the class that is made with [Jadefire Ink] has the least listed overall. The herbs for this ink are found in Hinterlands and STV predominantly. I also include glyphs that almost anyone of that class will use. Here are my top sellers.
A list with best selling glyphs will be different on each server. And yes, the glyphs who use the rarer inks (mostly the old world herbs) went for higher prices and were in short supply. Now however, you can get all inks for the price of a one ink of the sea. Creating glyphs will be easier as you can always use northrend herbs if there are no (cheap) old world herbs on the AH.
And making gold with inscription is easy: find those glyphs that noone else posts on the AH, create a few and put them on the AH.
Dddly enough, on my server, gem prices seem to have gone up a bit after 3.08, especially cut rubies. I attribute it to people having saved money for new items with the patch. I've taken advantage of the seller's market to sell off most of my stocks of buff foods, especially the ones which I believe will be rendered partially obsolete or nearly so by the new fish feast, and those which are primarily used to skill up cooking before buff foods drop in price, as they are surely going to do once "Chef Mania" dies down.
I'm dropping Tailoring for either Enchanting or Inscriptions on an Alt. (Tailoring fanbois are welcome to convince me to keep it. lol. No, I didn't think so. )
How are these two professions at making money? Enchanters can DE, which is usually via crafted greens or enchantrix. That's a decent market, but not amazing. Is the cost of leveling still outrageous?
Inscriptions is fairly easy to level, but glyphs, cards, scrolls and velum don't seem like enough to keep some income flowing.
I already have a maxxed JC, so I'm not hurting for cash. I just like the crafting/AH metagame a lot.
Inscriptions is fairly easy to level, but glyphs, cards, scrolls and velum don't seem like enough to keep some income flowing.
Well I've made approximately 13,500g from Inscription so far, with minimal effort - I just do my research every day, and keep 1 of every discovered glyph up on the AH. So maybe 10 minutes a day to relist the glyphs and didn't sell, and scribe fresh ones of the glyphs that did.
But I've been researching solidly almost every day since WotLK release - if you levelled it up now, you'd be 50+ discovered glyphs behind the hardcore scribes, with no chance of catching up until they finish discovering everything in the game.
I haven't tried making money with cards or vellum, so you might have more luck there. Scrolls I'd say definitely not, based on the lack of success I've had selling the ones I get as side-effects from my research.
Well I've made approximately 13,500g from Inscription so far, with minimal effort - I just do my research every day, and keep 1 of every discovered glyph up on the AH. So maybe 10 minutes a day to relist the glyphs and didn't sell, and scribe fresh ones of the glyphs that did.
But I've been researching solidly almost every day since WotLK release - if you levelled it up now, you'd be 50+ discovered glyphs behind the hardcore scribes, with no chance of catching up until they finish discovering everything in the game.
This is true for the most part for me as well. I research every day, don't stress about hitting the 20hour marker exactly though, and keep up one of most of the glyphs I can make. You need to keep in mind that there is a base cost per glyph that you shouldn't go below. On my server most herbs start at 1-1.5g each so a stack of 5 is on average 6.25g. This yields roughly 3 pigments which is 1.5 inks so your costs are 4g17s per ink plus the paper and AH fee/cut. Listing any glyphs you make besides those you needed to level below 5g each is pretty much losing you money for single ink glyphs while the ones requiring 2 inks are closer to 9g. Don't try to compete with the people who list for less than these, they don't understand what they are doing. Posting once after breakfast and another when I get home from work gives me a steady 1-2k income per day with as little as 20 minutes work.
I list one of each glyph I can make that sells for 10g or more. If it sells I make a new one and put it up whenever I make my next batch. If it doesn't I just relist it. Your AH mail keeps your inventory up to date and you don't have to worry about high overhead. I would recommend keeping a list of all the glyphs that you can make as well as marking the ones you have in your sales rotation. Periodically check the ones you don't because the prices of glyphs can be extremely volatile and often glyphs make a strong comeback when people have stopped posting all of theirs at a loss. Leveling inscription is also very easy on the bank. If you choose your glyphs wisely you can sell them on the ah for at or above cost. Just make sure to check out which ones sell well and make those while leveling since each tier takes the same ink it doesn't matter which ones you choose.
One thing I have started to do that helps a lot with making money off all the green gems you get from prospecting is to make a lot of the green rings that just take 1 gem and 2 crystallized earths. The cost on my server is only about 1g for the earths, and the gems if I sold them would be 1g, so its basically 2g to make it and after my friend DE's it its pretty much guaranteed to turn into at least 2 dust, which on my server sells for 5g+ each. So this works great for getting through my stocks of green gems without vendoring them, and actually make some money off of them. I only do it for the ones that arent used in making the Icy Prisms, and it is a very easy and cheap way to make some good money with gems that I have anyways.
One thing I have started to do that helps a lot with making money off all the green gems you get from prospecting is to make a lot of the green rings that just take 1 gem and 2 crystallized earths. The cost on my server is only about 1g for the earths, and the gems if I sold them would be 1g, so its basically 2g to make it and after my friend DE's it its pretty much guaranteed to turn into at least 2 dust, which on my server sells for 5g+ each. So this works great for getting through my stocks of green gems without vendoring them, and actually make some money off of them. I only do it for the ones that arent used in making the Icy Prisms, and it is a very easy and cheap way to make some good money with gems that I have anyways.
You can pretty safely use your [Chalcedony] to be honest, so long as you keep say 20 on hand for [Icy Prism], you'll be good for several days' worth of Prisms. [Dark Jade] and [Shadow Crystal] seem to remain crap for anything beyond leveling, as there's no [Crystallized Earth] recipes for them. I've taken to just vendoring whole stacks; cutting semi-popular recipes and vendoring the non-perfects while auctioning the perfects is certainly an option though too.
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My spreadsheet says the sim is better, but the sim says the spreadsheet is better.
On my server, the cost of northrend herbs hasn't yet increased to compensate for the increased cost of ink. Buying herbs and milling them is a good moneymaker at the moment.
After fishing in howling fjord for a few days for: One That Didn't Get Away - Achievement - World of Warcraft I've discovered that northrend fish sell reasonably well for their time investment. 3 of the 4 fish caught there are worth between 50 silver to a gold per fish and glacial salmon seems to have limitless demand right now with fish feasts having just been released. If you can include fishing in some kind of multitasking it's just pure profit. Having said all that I'd like to share with you a cautionary tale. After fishing up the [Dark Herring] (1:1000-1:10000 drop rate) I had, as you can imagine, thousands of these fish that I needed to unload, and quickly. My bank alts mailbox and banks were overflowing. Well to my amazement, last night I discovered that I was banned for economy exploitation. I sent them an e-mail and whatnot but as of this moment, no wow for me.
To be clear, I was selling 5-7 stacks of 4 types of fish cheaply, and putting up new stacks whenever they were bought. In the time that I began selling these fish I had made roughly 4k gold. And of course there was no botting or anything involved, just watching tv while fishing.
edit: Got a very generic password reset email roughly 36 hours post ban. No details, but resolved!
To my great amazement Infinite Dusts and Cosmic Essences are holding their own even after the materials requirements nerfs; that's could be because my realm has been the target of a free transfer from an overpopulated realm which populations isn't know to be formed by top notch raiders.. Prices had even risen by a very satisfying 20%
Am I the only experiencing this good market moment due to a change in the server population?
I'm on a server with free transfers off of it, and Infinite dusts and Cosmic essences still sell just as well as before. I also was surprised, as I expected the changes to effect the prices a lot more than they did. I expected cosmics to lower and dream shards to raise in price. However, cosmics are still 25-30g (normal), and dream shards are still 8-12g, so nothing really changed as far as prices for enchanting mats.
Pure speculation on my behalf but I imagine we're (the situation is similar on my server) seeing prices hold steady because the reduction in demand through recipe changes is being countered by a reduction in supply due to more of the population having completed questing and therefore having fewer quest greens for disenchantment.