The other cases for BC enchanting mats are as far as I can tell:
- Mongoose
- 12 Stam Bracers (some people prefer this over 6 stats)
- Boar's Speed (until Abyss Crystals become more readily available)

DKs quest gear that they leave Ebon Hold with is considered level 60 so is enchantable with all wotlk enchants.

One other thing to consider with old mats is Heirloom items which can only be enchanted with things that work on level one gear. - Lifestealing, Crusader and Fiery are probably gonna be popular ones here. Apparently ZG shoulder enchants work on heirloom shoulders too so if you have leftover bijous now could be the time to unload them.

I use adamantite weighting stone on my titansteel destroyer every raid, seems to work fine, even though I haven't parsed to see if I actually get the bonus. I do get the buff though and no error messages.




One good BC enchant that you can make some benefit off is Major Defense on Bracers. Considering the def cap is pretty steep in wotlk, it's very worthwhile for most tanks, especially DKs. I know I went to farm the pattern myself because finding an enchanter with it was hard, and everytime they wanted 25-30g fee, and I had a few people as I spammed /2 messaging me to tell them if I found one cause they were looking to.

They made weapon oils and sharpening stones unusable at 80, but forgot to do the same for weightstones.

I'm still confused as to this change at all, you'd think they'd just make another tier of everything again [like...you know...they did with everything else]. Still, seems like a silly oversight

It was a conscious decision to reduce farming of raid-related mats to a more manageable level, not an oversight.

Well, the weightstone sounds like an oversight.

Depending on your AH prices it is more or less profitable to craft Stoneguard Band - Spell - World of Warcraft and disenchant it.

Quick 500g ? I just did her 2 man and we both got 64gold for the kill, seems a bit too far off to me for it to be true, the nexus shards wont sell for much if at all, so the only seller is a good boe ?

2manning Doomwalker?! LOL.... the gold drop comments seemed odd enough but honestly... c'mon.

Ony drops ~150g normally, you seem to have got a bit unlucky there. Plus normally 30g or so in vendorables. Azuregos is the same.

Together thats 350-400g, so ok 500g is a bit out, its not as bad as you make it seem. I do ony every reset (as an unholy DK its very very easy) and make about 180-200g a time.

As a Jewelcrafter this is the order I bought patterns (I didn't waste dailies on Dragon's Eye because all the BoEs are terrible/side-grades for the price/times it costs to make them and I tell this to people that are looking for them). The first tabard I wore was Kin Tor for Scarlet Ruby (+19 SP).

1. Delicate Scarlet Ruby (+16 Agi)
2. Rigid Monarch Topaz (+16 Hit)
3. Insightful Earthsiege Diamond (+21Int/600 Mana Return)
At this time I hit Exalted with Kin Tor
4. Enduring Forest Emerald
5. Veiled Monarch Topaz (+SP / +Hit)
6. Next will be: Luminous Monarch Topaz
I also had the DK Tanking Purple pattern drop (Parry/Stamina)

I few things made the money I've made possible: I'm on a medium population server. I have a very high reputation and am well known and sought after for Enchants/Gem Cuts (except my account was hacked Wednesday and I don't have an Enchanting Rod ATM). I know TONS if not all of the major players in most tradeskills on my server, I watch people to see what they have and get what they don't. I tell them "I'm going to buy X gem cut because I've seen that no one has it." "What do you plan on buying?" Not because I don't want competition, because I want to spread the wealth and provide cuts for people that need them. Also I'm one of 3 JCer that are exalted with Kin Tor. We all list our gems at the same Bid and Buyout price and all of our gems sell. I was going to get the Relentless Meta , but 2 other people got it before me and I didn't want them to think I was trying to take their business. One more thing to add, there are 3 JCer in my guild, we are all at 440+ and we all talk and buy different patterns and talk to others on the server and use word of mouth to send people to the right JCer. I would say that there's really only one guy that tries to undercut everyone and we all gang up on him and we all undercut him. You want to get your name out there, be polite, tell people they can tip what they want, offer to prospect people's ore and DE their greens, suggest they put you on their friends list and the gold will come.

Not to mention Stoneguard Band making has netted me 40,000g in a little over a week. (I rarely if ever prospect, too much of a timesink / addiction /gamble to blow money on something that won't be worth my time.)

I'm curious how people deal with getting undercut by ridiculous amounts.

I've had a near-monopoly on a couple tanking gem cuts since WotLK launched. One of them has been a really excellent money-maker - I have been able to buy the uncut gems for 8-15G each, and sell the cut version for 150G+. I've been able to sell these pretty much as quickly as I can put them up for the past couple weeks.

Two days ago, somebody else started putting the same cut on the AH for 50G. I have no problem with getting undercut, but it seems really silly to undercut me by over 100G when he could have just undercut by 1G and had his gems sell just fine (and collect triple the profit per gem).

How do people usually deal with this? I cancelled my existing auctions and undercut him by a few silver (even at the greatly reduced selling price, I'll still make a decent profit). I'm considering messaging my competitor and asking him to only undercut me by a few silver next time so that we both make more money (we're going to both undercut each other anyway, but doing it this way keeps profits higher for much longer instead of destroying margins overnight). I guess another option would be agreeing to a fixed price with him, but that seems like more of a hassle, since every day it is more likely that additional people will pick up this cut. Opinions/anecdotes?

Might be off by 10-15g but i dont think thats the point of the topic.I really don't think anyone would bother to type 485 instead of 500.I usually get between 140 to 180 gold from Onyxia ( my personal best was 212g not counting the vendor items) The BoE's aren't the best sellers indeed.The same goes for Azuregos.

You should also consider that both Kazzak's and Doomwalker's gold drop was buffed in 2.4.As well making the drops BoE
The last kazzak we killed dropped:[Hope Ender] and [Ripfiend Shoulderplates] which sold almost instantly for 500g each on AH.

As of Doomwalker he is a joke , get a clue.The only possible way to wipe is if your tank gets unlucky and has alot of Crush Armor stacks on the 20% Enrage.As of the Enrage u should know that his enrage was changed long ago so Earthquake does not one shot you but ticks for 4k each instead(Double damage).

Edit:as a matter of fact i wont be suprised if a feral druid will be able to solo those in the near future.

There has been some discussion on enchanting and JCing as crafting professions making some decent money, but does anyone have some recommendations for others like LW and BS? I've been looking into buying AH mats low and selling epic gear high (as well as profession only enchants), and I know it varies from server to server, but I haven't been able to make a profit doing so.

Are there any other effective ways to make money with these professions so far in Wrath? Or is it simply wise to make my DK a skinner/miner.

As was mentioned earlier, mining is making some serious bank right now. The respawn rate on the nodes is pretty ridiculous and you get ore (sells well), a titansteel transmute (bars are instantly selling at 350-400g on my server), and plenty of eternal shadow and earth which can be turned into infinite dust via JC.

I am less sure about skinning. I know Artic Furs are still selling very well on my server though.

My question is this - I have alchemy and have been buying the green gems off of the AH for ridiculously cheap and re-selling uncut skyflare and earthsiege diamonds. This has dried up some, so I'm wondering which meta cuts people think would sell best? I'm thinking:

[Insightful Earthsiege Diamond]
[Chaotic Skyflare Diamond]
[Austere Earthsiege Diamond]

Maybe one of the PvP cuts as well? Anyone had especially good returns with one of the metas?

Also, something I have been doing with herbalism is taking all of my icethorn and eternal lifes(I get tons and it doesn't sell very well any more) and having a friend inscriptionist make darkmoon cards for me. If you luck out and get a nobles card you stand to make a huge profit, and even the other cards are selling for 400-450 for me which is more than I would get for the 5-6 icethorn stacks.

I never lowered my prices, the guy undercutting me would sell out and mine would still be left and sell a day later. I then got more aggressive about buying all the uncut gems since my margins could afford it. This pushed the price of the uncuts up a bit, which also hurt his margin. Perhaps the person undercutting you is still skilling up and just unloading his gems for a quick turn around.

If you really feel there is an sellers market for these gems at 150g, why not buy his out at 50, and relist them at 150? I've done similar things successfully in the past if I felt there was a sustained value in the item. Just keep an eye on trends so you don't start buying them at 50g faster than you can sell them at 150g.

Judging from past seasons resilience gems were never especially popular with most classes. It probably isn't a bad idea to buy a cut or two to test the market, since like you said there's not much else to do with shards anyways. However I don't expect them to be especially profitable, especially considering how easy it is to get the recipes.

Was easily able to 2 man Doomwalker. We both got over 260g in coin and of course the 2 BoE epics.

Without a magic dispel, we were not able to out damage Twisted Reflection on Kazzak.

How long did it take you and with which classes, out of curiosity?

About 16 minutes with a DK and Druid

Stonekeeper shards are very easy to get, unless your server is unbalanced severely PvP-wise. Safe to assume all JCer will have those gem cuts, I wouldn't waste time buying and cutting, instead just advertising that you can cut them for people and hope for good tips.

I use mining combined with jewel crafting and enchanting to fund my needs.

Mining Icecrown for crystallized elements, Saronite, Titanium, and the occasional odd gem. Prospect the Saronite; it is 35 to 40 per stack on my server; and sell the green gems in stacks of 5. Cherry pick sell blues if their pricing is higher for uncut; there are many such blue gems on my server the worst example is autumn's glow which is over priced.

Use the crystallized earth to make Stonegard rings which disenchant into 2+ infinite dusts or cosmics. Depending on the day of the week I can just buy the crystallized earth, make the rings, disenchant them, and basically print money.