nevesola

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Not to mention max out honor, for those of us who are casual pvp'ers(WG specifically) and don't use honor for much else. Perhaps run a few more heroics to get a decent stash of badges.

 

Vaccine

I also think Dragon's Eye will become more valuable in the coming weeks as JC's start stockpiling tokens for the new epic gem patterns. Might be worth buying them out now and relisting in a few weeks.

 

• Kalroth

I don't think so. I'm fairly slack with the jewel crafting dailies and I only leveled JC recently, but I still got 30+ tokens on me now - even though I use them for DPS, two sets of tanking and PvP gear.

 

◊ zirky

Aren't they still reimbursing current JC's with prismatic gems socketed an undisclosed number of Dragon's Eye. If anything, there will be a flood of Eyes.

Also, as others have stated, I too have seen the random level 1 alt selling materials at absurd prices using broken English. I didn't realize what was going on at first, he sold me 20 stacks of Saronite then told me that he could get 50 more in an hour. If I had to guess, this is some sort of cross server money laundering. In less than 2 weeks, the dust market went from a happy 6g/ea to sub 4. It's a combination of oversupply and people greedily undercutting to make a sale rather than make a profit.

The one boon to this all is that the TBC dust and essences are currently selling twice that of the Wrath ones on my server, and selling about as fast as I can list them.

 

Darian_TruBlade

I saw the opposite last night. A level 1 alt in Orgrimmar was buying stacks of Bloodstone, Sun Crystal, Chalcedony and Huge Citrine. That seems to support the theory of laundering money across servers.

"A man's IQ, yearly income, sexual prowess, ingenuity, physical appearance and generally every other aspect of his character can be condensed down to four digits: his Arena rating." - Zechsy [70 Rogue - Skullcrusher (EU) - 10/23/2007]

 

Tel

Thats actually just as likely to be someone making JC rings for dissing. I know on my level 1 alt I quite happily buy 20-30 stacks at a time of green gems to make into rings to disenchant.

If it was a gold laundering operation, I'm not convinced they'd be as picky as that about what they buy.

 

◊ zirky

I think its more about selling materials to get the gold on the target server by transferring sought after items cheaply acquired on other servers. Someone was offering Titanium Bars for 3g each; I assumed maybe a few were up for grabs, maybe a stack. When I opened trade, 6 stacks were placed in the window. There's no way that someone looking to profit would offer that on a server where 10g/bar is considered a good deal. But its always done by a level 1 with poor communication abilities, to the point of answering questions in the form of "[item]=##g".

 

Darian_TruBlade

Normally I'd agree, the problem being the conversation went something like this.

2.[Trade] Him: WTB [Bloodstone][Sun Crystal][Huge Citrine][Chaceldony] 35g/stack
(/w) Me: I've got some stacks, how many do you want?
Him: (1+ minute pause) yea
Me: You wanted those gems right? I've got plenty, how many of each did you want?
Him: (1+ minute pause) where a u
Me: I'm in Dalaran. I can come to Orgrimmar, but first I want to know what you need.
Him: (1+ minute pause) u com here
Me: I will, just tell me what you want.
Him: (1+ minute pause) is similar price
Me: I can see this is going nowhere.

He may have innocently been looking for these gems for the purposes you described, but the complete lack of English comprehension and the palpable pauses as he processed what I said strike me as extremely peculiar.

"A man's IQ, yearly income, sexual prowess, ingenuity, physical appearance and generally every other aspect of his character can be condensed down to four digits: his Arena rating." - Zechsy [70 Rogue - Skullcrusher (EU) - 10/23/2007]

 

Lanthon

Given the announcement that epic gems will be able to be prospected from Titanium Ore, prices have skyrocketed on my server. I don't even know what the going rate is today. Yesterday it was 200g/stack. Today I put some up for 275g/stack and it sold immediately. The price of Titansteel is on its way up too.

 

vl0071

Why would Tintan steel go up (unless they plan to release new titanium patterns because most of the patterns are now obsolete with Ulduar and full naxx clears)?

Regarding why people will buy green gems it's pretty straight forward: they could be using them for icy prisms or meta gems transmutes. As a JC I sell 20-30 metas a week and have an alchemist that can transmutes them.

It could also be the case that come 3.2, the epic gems transmutes will require green gems (very likely).

Furthermore, from memory there are 72 epic patterns. Assuming that they will cost 2-3 tokens each to buy, you will need a lot of tokens to get most of the designs.

 

doogless

People prospecting Titanium Ore = less people smelting Titanium Ore into Titanium Bars, and hence less available Titanium Bars for creating Titansteel Bars?

 

Desta

I very much doubt this. I don't have a logical explanation, but I "feel" that it would be more appropriate if epic gems are transmuted from rare gems.
Sort of uncommon gems make rare gems which in turn make epic gems.

You can see something loosely similar with some tradeskill recipes: a lower level item uses Elemental Fire, the next one uses Heart of Fire and the last one uses Essence of Fire.
I'm not sure the example makes sense, but there you have it.

 

klüger

Blizz said Icy Prisms would have a chance to create epic gems.


e: I'd agree with the price of around 8 tokens. It seems reasonable.

 

mhydes

Have they announced the gem pattern prices anywhere (daily tokens), I think its safe to expect they would be ~roughly 8tokens per cut to prevent opening day everyone having every recipe. I've slacked on my dk in terms of completing the basic JC/Fishing daily for the past month or so and my pile of tokens is pretty low right now.

 

Vaccine

Were you stockpiling them for a specific purpose? JC's I know selling all their tokens for Dragon's eyes, there was no point having 30+ in your character tab not doing anything, that translates to almost 3000g on my server.

 

Lucinde

In the case of many players, like myself, there is also no point in having 3.000 more gold. I prefer to sit on the tokens instead of on 3.000 more gold.

 

Kraith

I stopped getting Dragon's Eyes and selling them because honestly it wasn't worth it to me. The price of them was around 60g before the 3.2 notes were released. I was simply stock piling for my own use, since I do maintain three full sets of gear.

Titanium Ore was 40g a stack the night before 3.2 patch notes released. I bought 5 stacks and smelted two stacks into bars to turn into titansteel. I was able to log on soon after the patch notes were released and the ore was 130g a stack. I bought out all 10 stacks. Thirty minutes later there was two full pages of ore for 200g+. Last night before raid the lowest you could buy a stack for was 610g. There was also a handful of level 1s selling it in broken English.

Enchanting mats seem to be on the downfall on my server at least. I have trouble off loading the dust now days, so I am looking forward to 3.2 as it will mean more gear which translates to more people needing enchants. Not sure if it is worth stockpiling it until then, as it is now I only make about a 50% profit. (Buying all materials and DE'n the rings. I spend 1000g, I make 1500g selling all mats.)

 

snowman2050

The market has well and truely crashed on my server also, I am at present sat on around 500 dust as I refuse to sell it at 2.75. Cosmic's as still selling really well though with the market fluctuating up and down between 14 - 18g each.
Im not sure if it was a stroke of luck or a guild bank sale but i was able to purchase 300 Abyss Crystals from 3 seperate level 1 chars over a period of 2 days at 40g each, which i have slowly been selling through at around 20g profit on each. Maybe the result of a stolen guild bank or a hacked account, or maybe perfectly legit, however it did strike me as odd as you never really see that amount being sold in the early hours of the morning in trade channel.

 

manapaws

Has anyone seen any mention yet to what kind of drop rate epic gems will have from titanium? Market for blue quality gems plummeted on my server due to the announcement of epic ones on the way. As such, I haven't really bothered buying saronite to prospect and have moved to cobalt (green gems worth more than blue gems).

I have stockpiled about 30 stacks of titanium on the first day of the news while it was relatively cheap. Depending on the drop rate, do you think it'd be better to sell at the peak (very likely a couple of weeks before patch) or just prospect it once able?

- Tauren Druid (Realm first Naxx/Malygos)
- Gnome Mage (Realm first Sarth +3d)
- Nelf Druid (new main - progressing through Ulduar)

 

Ranjurm

I assume it will be the same rate that rare gems drop from saronite ore, that is one every stack of 20 on average. Of course this is speculation but a reasonable one. The rate of drop for rare gems interests me more though. Too high and saronite ore will be devalued entirely. Also the chances of a perfect cut of rare gems might be introduced sometime in the future (not in 3,2) to keep the value of rare gems up but that's just a musing of mine.

 

Talgog

This. The supply of titanium is relatively limited. Saronite and cobalt are effectively inexhaustible; you could mine out a WoTLK zone if you had a half-dozen people on epic flyers working together, but your haul would still be enormous and nearly continuous. Titanium is by design largely luck. You will get some while mining, but you have no idea when, where or how much beyond a general statistical model.

 

reydien

Something else to consider regarding titanium demand, when everyone can get emblems of conquest from heroics, everyone will be able to get runed orbs, and demand for the ulduar crafted gear should soar. Specifically, the plate gear requires titansteel, so that's gonna be 20 titansteel bars per person per spec that wants a set.

 

Yeoldelock

I would bet blue quality gems will go back up. If green is worth more than blue, it was total panic selling. Most sellers must not realize that 3.2 is 2 or 3 or maybe even 4 months away.

I would sell your Titanium Ore at the peak. Epic gems can also be purchased with Badges of Heroism and Honor points. Both are easy to obtain and I'm sure people are sitting on a lot of them.

 

Ja7us

It's also possible that the alchemy transmutations used to create epic gems might involve their blue versions (I.e. you need an autumn's glow to transmute a king's amber) which would keep them from being devalued. I wouldn't sell them just yet.

 

exog

People who stack Titanium ore for prospecting epic gems, whats a good price for 20 ore? (Or is this totally server dependant?)