Shipo

When people say Titanium I think they only think at the raw epic gems.

I for one don't really care about the gems. I only hope to make the cash I invested in that titanium.
The most important thing is the damn powder. 10 powder per token. Whoever has the most recipes on day one will be the king of the hill. There will be a million and one raw gems out there and noone to cut them .

 

Marthisdil

Obviously server markets differ....but I make a ton of profit from both prospecting saronite (can be had for 15-18g/stack on my server on weekends) and in buying raw rubies from the ah (can be had easily for 50-55g ea on weekends).

Yesterday I picked up 2 stacks from someone for 40g/gem. Promptly cut them into bold and runed, and sold them all within 12 hours for 70+ ea.

Even when buying at 50-55 in singles, still plenty of profit to be made. Especially when compared to the depressed market for most other cur gems. I still sell lots of Chaotic Skyflare, couple other metas...and a few yellow/orange/purple cuts...but a lot of the non-meta cuts that I do sell are in the 20g/ea range, and sometimes I have to relist a few times, or the goldfarmers aggressively undercut, etc.

But with the rubies, I don't have this problem. I don't think there's but 1-2 other JCs that do the mass quantity that I do, but there are quite a few "dabblers" that push out the good cuts.

I've heard the horror stories of servers where the cut red gems are cheaper than the uncut gems themselves. Lucky for me, that isn't the case.

Past couple of days, the gold farmers have been dumping saronite and titanium to get their numbers up. I've picked up about 300 stacks of saronite past 2 days in the 14-15g/stack range...and about 30 stacks of titanium in the 100-120g/stack range.

Now I just have to sit and prospect all the saronite - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Bout 600 stacks lol

 

Marthisdil

I agree to an extent. The most popular 10 cuts will be flooded. The problem is - the "unpopular" cuts won't make you much money, because not many people buy those now to begin with.

I'm guessing that the powder itself will sell for 30-50g/ea after the patch lands - just because JCs will be silly in paying that much.

It's too bad more people don't pickup green/blue/orange gems - maybe if blizzard gave reason for them to use them, they would sell. But the typical bold/runed ruby, hit/crit/int yellow, etc, will be the heavy hitters day 1...and the undercutting will be interesting to watch

 

• Feist-Mok

I'd wager you'll see brisk movement on Purple and Green gems on patch day, as LOTS of JC's will suddenly need to make their Meta gems work.

 

Brekk

Has it been verified that the removal of Prismatic on Dragon's Eyes is on the PTR.

I saw the original mention of it, but I haven't seen it in any PTR patch notes.

 

Aéquitas

I got a feeling that there will be a huge demand for Dragon Eyes next patch. Most if not all JCers will have to regem one or more of their dragoneyes because of the change to their prismatic quality. Next to that all JCers are saving up their JCtokens to buy new recipes.

I think it would be wise to get yourself a small stock of Dragon Eyes to abuse this shift in demand a bit.

 

◊ Scorponok

They've said all JCs will be getting free Dragon's Eyes to compensate for that, so I wouldn't bet on it.

 

Mano

Don't forget that, as far as I understood, all JC will get their used Dragon's Eye refunded; this should curb the demand for new dragon's eyes.
Also in the end, JCs being the only ones able to create Dragon's Eyes, the only way you can get some is by losing out on the new cuts. And those in tha AH seem to have gone up about 20g already.

 

Flouyd

If you feel that way, you should buy lots of [Damaged Necklace]

 

Shipo

For some reason the prices of those darn things are skyhigh at the moment(well on my server at least). I doubt that they will go down anytime soon. Those are quite rare and I'd rather buy 2-3 stacks of titanium then getting a silly necklace.

We just have to stockpile mats like nuts(my case titanium) and pray for the best.

 

Mideci

There is no rhyme or reason to the current Damaged Necklace prices. It's the same "logic" that people used to pay 2000g for a glyph book. Well, OK, that logic was actually worse since you couldn't pick a glyph that would justify the price. But regardless, it does seem titanium dust in bulk is a more logical way to get there since you can buy stacks of ore for what necklaces are going for on many servers. And the stack of ore might also produce an epic gem or two. And yes, I know it's 5 necklaces but 10 dusts... More or less, the price of recipes via necklace feels very very out of whack.

 

songster

It's 50 dusts for a recipe. 10 dust = 1 token = 1 necklace.

At somewhat less than 1 dust per stack, then a necklace should cost the same as several stacks of titanium ore, even factoring in the money you'll get back on the epic gems. Surprise surprise, that's exactly what the market has settled on.

 

vorda

Did something change? Numbers currently accepted are these:
That's 3 dust a stack. On my realm, stacks go for about 160g, necklaces for 500. If titanium ore were to prospect ONLY dust, the price woud be balanced, but since it obviously doesn't, necklaces are way too high for some reason.

 

Mideci

Because a lot of people in WoW are dumb and fail at basic math. Honestly, it's not more complicated than that. A guy explained to me that he made money buying glyph books at 2000g. I said, "Congrats, you must've won the lottery." He failed to understand for every glyph book that return >2000g (and there weren't many), there were 5 that returned more or less 0. So you'd needed to have made 12,000g on the good ones. Let's say (a) not many people did that (b) that's high stakes poker when in theory you could've gotten 10 glyph books that were worthless before hitting a single winner.

Most here don't play Lotto odds when there are fairly surefire ways to exploit the WoW "economy". Buying Titanium Ore right now appears fairly close to one of them.

 

ECZO

In the last couple of days I've been having a nice income by buying other people's emblems; after a brief discussion I tell them to buy scarlet rubies from the vendor in Dalaran and then I cut the stones.
The math behind the whole thing is rather easy, I spend 40g for each scarlet ruby (but I suspect a 35g price would be accepted from a lot of people) and I sell the processed product for a margin.. easy as that.
If you think about the time involved in gathering 1-200 emblems you'll realize that it's not a good deal for the customer, but many people are sitting on huge amounts of bades without any interest in buying gear or heirlooms and a further incentive comes from the fact that in 3.2 they will be able to farm emblems of conquest.

Does anybody know what currency will be used to buy epic gems? If emblems of heroism will be used I have a bigger reason in trying to drain the reserves to cut the possible sources of epic gems and making them more expensive when 3.2 hits.

 

Cuer

The prices have shifted a bit over the course of the PTR so far, and might still change further, but at the moment:

Each raw epic red (Cardinal Ruby), blue (Majestic Zircon), or yellow (King's Amber) gem costs 20 [Emblem of Heroism].

Each raw epic orange (Ametrine), Purple (Dreadstone), or Green (Eye of Zul) gem costs 10 Emblem of Heroism.

Of course, in 3.2 there will be a high incentive to do the daily dungeon and daily heroic dungeon quests every day, which means a large number of Emblems of Heroism will be generated each day as people go through the heroics.

 

leadman

If I'm not mistaken 15 emblem of heroism will buy 1 epic gem which means you're also lowering the amount of epic gems that can be generated.

Edit: Beaten by the a few seconds and it seems the original cost was changed.

 

Solitaire

I'm sticking by 150g being my max price on Titanium. Has anyone done the speculative math by which the ore may not be so profitable?

Also I doubt epic gems will sell very well for the first couple weeks until people start getting 3.2 gear

 

Mideci

I think gems will sell fantastically well once the patch drops as people have a chance to upgrade a fraction of a tier just by regemming.

 

Kraith

Most raiders will immediately re-gem their current gear in order to maximize themselves for the new raid. Thinking that people won't re-gem until they have 3.2 gear is naive. If there are PvP cuts (which I am sure there are, I just haven't looked) this will only compound how fast gems sell as PvPers will do the same as raiders.

 

Mirth

I thought I'd try this and keep a bunch of prisms in my bank until after the patch. Alas, they are unique. So at best, we can keep one unopened through the patch.

 

Toshimo

You can store multiple copies of a unique item in a guild bank.

 

Douglas

Yes. I can confirm that in my jewelcrafter's trade panel, each cut shows up on the matching color mixed in among other gems. The runed dragon's eye is in the red section, alongside all the other runed gems.

In addition, ptr.wowhead.com shows this change, as you can see here: Runed Dragon's Eye - Item - World of Warcraft

 

Ranjurm

Additionally you can mail them to an alt one at a time.

 

Penticle

Is there any consensus on what will happen with frozen orb prices?

Jewelcrafters will want to buy them to make icy prisms in the hope of attaining an epic gem and with badges being used to buy gems I see the supply from that dwindling. On the other hand there will be an increase in heroics being run and an increase in supply from that. Will the increase in heroics being run offset the loss of emblem orbs?