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I have been selling chalcedony on my server for 9-12g pretty consistently over the last two months. One day this week, during my daily AH scan, I saw they were listed for 50g+! I thought it was impossible, but I went ahead and listed five at 47g50s and four of them sold. I was dumb-founded.

 

• sordee

Find out which gems are needed that day for the daily? Maybe it spikes on that day?

Druid Tank: Bulamis
DK Tank: Emomo

 

Handyhoof

The price something was at a point in the past is irrelevant. If the price of leather changed, so did the value of the stuff in your bank. If you bought it very cheap, and it went up in price, then your wealth increased (assuming a vehicle to liquidate exists.) At any given point, the profitability of any given conversion is based on the value of the items in question at that singular point, and no other, barring speculation for future change.

Basically, if it's no longer profitable because the price of leather has gone up, then just selling the leather you have will provide the greater return.

 

benisapha

One last tip to end the weekend.

Check the Dream Shard market out again. Prices have doubled in mine, likely due to the fast that diamonds are very profitable currently, and people are making dust out of everything due to the change in quantity from items. Also, the MMO champ article specificaly talked about dust, and most folowers of MMO have near zero creativity.

For me, I netted 1.5k this morning, just from burning through quite a bit of Dark Jade and Huge Citrine. Now the mats would have made slightly more dust, for those who will chime in on opportunity cost, but in terms of time, using 11g in mats to create 14.5 g in proffit in 8 seconds was pretty good in terms of time cost. Along with this fact, I have already pushed the dust market well past saturation, so this is a great outlet (sitting on 1800 earths).

 

Enova

EDIT: <ignore this, I didn't realize there was still one other page I hadn't read>

EDIT 2: Still, if you find people selling Dream Shards at the old prices, buy them out and relist them at the new prices if the supply is low enough.

Guilty as charged ^

 

unitsinc

Has anyone updated this since the new DE change went through? I'd do it myself but I'm not very good at deciphering spreadsheets.

 

Knasen

Anyone noticed new "AH bots" on their servers recently? Apparently the "chinese farmers" has grown a brain and now craft goods which they sell. Problem here is for honest customers, if a guy camps AH 18/7/365 or more, and cancel the second someone undercut them. The room on AH for real players diminish very quickly.

 

savernon

Find their limits, then post at the limit that they will undercut, and buy their stuff?

 

Knasen

What limits did you ever find "farmers" have? 50% below normal mats cost or even lower and near limitless supply with 24/7 presence, cant beat that as human, and that's where the problem is.

 

Handyhoof

If they are removing mats from the system to craft goods, they create an opportunity in the raw material market. Instead of undercutting mats with what they gather, they use it themselves and alter the supply/demand ratio. Find the opportunity and profit from it.

 

ZachPruckowski

I'm not sure that follows as well in Wrath, because come 3.3, you can get your guy into ilvl 219 just by getting dragged through regular ToC (200) and regular Frozen Halls (219), and the Heroic ToC gives 219 while Heroic Frozen Halls is 232. And once we move to EoT dropping from every heroic, that BoE stuff won't look as appetizing.

What I've noticed is spam in trade offering to sell pretty much every ToC25 recipe and Crusader Orbs at really low prices, almost as if they had somehow hijacked a guild vault or something, but it seems like they have them constantly, so they can't have hacked just one vault (especially since we're not as progressed a server, so there's only 2-3 guilds with that stuff in their vault).

 

Machinator

They probably have a couple accounts on hand that they would server transfer rather than having items on each server. There are bots advertising ToC/Uld BoE epics too which I'm pretty sure are the same thing.

"Information is ammunition."

 

Malthes

Those are both good points. My counterpoint to the first is that there is already ilvl 226 and 245 gear available through crafting in four slots, and there will conceivably be a couple of patterns dropping in ICC as well. So, crafting gear gets your alt ready faster than running through ilvl 219 content.

The EoT point is exactly what happened in TBC when Sunwell was released (T6 equivalent gear was available for Badges of Heroism). I don't recall exactly, but was there a price drop in Primal Mights, etc. when Sunwell was released?

 

Otterpop

If memory serves me right, there was indeed a fairly steep drop (40-50%) for the average price of Primal Might once the Sunwell patch hit. Casuals who hadn't run Black Temple were getting T6 equivalent gear by farming badges from Kara and the like. Similarly, the new LFG tool will make farming Emblems of Triumph extremely easy.

With this in mind, it's likely the trade chat spam for crafted epics/BOEs/Orbs from these bots/farmers will diminish greatly once 3.3 hits.

 

Darament

it does help that some of the crafted ilvl 245 items are BiS or close to BiS for a lot of classes. while playing an elemental shaman even though I get to roll on cloth and leather items it doesn't mean that I get priority on them even though they are BiS. so it's easier to craft the harder to get items like bracers. and having those recipies helps because for something that costs about 4k to make I can sell for almost 9k maybe once a week which is really nice for making some easy cash