This is one thing that interests me. Are druids generally delegated to healers because they are limited by their class at performing other roles, or because a disproportionately low number of healers compared to DPS classes results in druids being used to fill that role? Perhaps it's both. However, if it's only the latter, then the solution is more healers, not pigeonholing druids. I think people might neglect the support abilities of the feral and (possibly) balance druid just because of a general lack of healers.

There's also inertia. As has been said before, druids aren't adequately geared for feral, and that is used as a reason to not let them go feral. But they're only not geared because they weren't able to go feral in the first place, or were chastised for rolling on feral gear. And besides gear, there's the mindset that druids are only good at healing, which was generally accepted before 1.8 but has been brought into question since the patch.

A cower is a feint. Literally -- zero difference from the rogue version. For a druid, it removes 600 damage worth of threat, effectively allowing you to do 60 DPS more than you otherwise could if you use it every time it's up.

It's ok, but it doesn't scale, and druids have no passive aggro-reduction (a la rogues, and many mages/warlocks), and no way of wiping aggro entirely (a la rogues and hunters). Aggro is the hard cap on the viability of druid DPS, especially for Horde.

So it would likely require keeping a close eye on DM and making sure that I'm not outdamaging the warriors.
Of course, this is off in the distant future, when I CAN outdamage warriors :P

No, warriors have innate aggro reduction in any non-defensive stance. At any point above 300 DPS, you're generating more aggro than a warrior even cowering every 10 seconds.

:(

I wish I could do 300 DPS :(. I am luckily to get 200 consistently.

I've also read a few threads on the wow druid forums where people have stated they pulled aggro on vael in cat form even though they did quite a bit less damage than the rogues.

I suppose it's possible that the rogues in question used vanish, but it seems like cat form doesn't have the -20% threat reduction.

Vanish makes a huge difference in quick fast dps fights like vael though.

Cat form definitely does not.

I CAN"T READ

tl;dr druids innervate me

My new elemental spec has 30 points in restoration!


Hey, tonight one of our feral druids almost cracked the top 25 on DM! Actually Chupid did beat me on Flamegor in both damage and healing :huh:

:D

A few cool points about last night:
A: Flamegor - I was in the DM spot above Fjord, having half my DPS gear on. Cardrian was in the spot above me. How? WANDING. :boggle:
B: Warlocks suck and hate me :(
C: In the first 5 or so pulls when I DIDN'T die every pull, I was in the top 15.

This evening, I'm going to drop 3/3 improved rejuv and pick up 3/5 subtlety. Even with a 30g respec, I figure I'll save myself an average of 5g in repair costs on every raid.

Oh kaubel, and the next time the shades all beeline for you I will say I told you so.

Overfriendly shades are the least of my concerns. It's the freaking lab that's running up my repair bill.

I never had imp rejuv before 1.8 anyway, so piss on that particular talent. I don't need it.

:( I was a big fan of Imp Rejuv

You should still have it too, despite not putting any points into it. That's another reason I'm dropping it. We have enough druids already who can do it, so me slapping them on people is a waste of mana.

Haha, I always wondered why people took improved rejuv. I was always of the opinion that somebody else should waste five (three points now) points on that useless talent. :P

Also, a big thanks to beef for giving that forum troll, Xl, a slap in the face on the druid forums.

Link please. :) Beef ownage is usually the best ownage.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.a...d&T=556576&P=17

That's the page where I started posting anyway.