Blayze

I remember Charge messing me up with disconnects all the time in vanilla -- especially on bosses such as the Ravenian in Scholomance. I thought the issue with Chargecrashing was fixed, however.

 

Ayreon

I have been thinking about getting a small SSD drive to use for WoW and one or two other games with long loading times. Does anyone have an experience with this i.e. will the loading times notably improve?

 

Nerub

If your CPU is somewhat new, yes. I have an OCZ Vertex 120GB on which Windows and WoW are installed. It takes five to eight seconds for the loading bar to fill on my first login when I'm in Dalaran. Zoning in and out of instances is a lot faster than that, it takes maybe two seconds maximum.

 

dr_AllCOM3

http://uk.prweb.com/prfiles/2009/08/...difference.pdf
There's an article about HDD vs SSD. WoW isn't in there, but it should be worth a read if you plan to buy a SSD.

DocsDK UI
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Redbeard

I bought an 32 GB OCZ Vertex SSD for Wow during summer. Yes the loading times are much faster, best improvement compared to my old drive is lack of stutter in heavily populated areas - the models get loaded up instantly.

Having OS on SSD takes some more dedication though - you need to minimze writing to a SSD drive as much as possible.
Updating Wow, addons and the occasional log & setting files won't tax it too much. Check up OCZ forums - even if you end up with a different manufacturer's SSD, it's a good source for information.

 

Mikari

Not really. Whilst SSD's have a limited amount of writes, with the wear levelling algorithms most SSD manufacturers say you can write somewhere in the region of 50GB a day for 3-5 years and still be fine. I doubt many people actually write 50GB a day to their hard drives, SSD or otherwise. The only things you need to change in the OS when using a SSD is to disable any automatic defragging and things like superfetch.

 

Brekk

I would stear clear of SSD's until Windows 7 is released along with SSD's that support the TRIM command.

TRIM (SSD command) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

• Philemon

Writing files will also cause a noticeable degradation in system performance, in addition to wearing out the drive. A good article on this phenomenon can be found on AnandTech.

Also, it should be pointed out the Windows 7 will automatically disable automatic defragmenting on SSD drives. It will also use performance tests to decide if it would be beneficial to disable optimizations such as Superfetch, boot prefetching, application launch prefetching, ReadyBoost and ReadyDrive. According to the Engineering Windows 7, enabling these features improved system performance in systems with "some first generation SSDs."

 

bengali

The new Intel X25's will support TRIM when windows 7 is released, but they are hard to find. I'm waiting but if you're building a computer now its still worth it to get one of the older Intel X25's. There will be some performance loss but your worst case scenario is still an order of magnitude better than a conventional drive. If you aren't convinced try and find someone who has one and test drive it. The load times are unreal.

 

TimWischmeier

I read up on SSDs an keep reading that MLC type SSDs allow for round about 100k writes per cell. However, I did not find any comment on how this translates into real world usage. Especially if you use a SSD as a straight substitute for your operation system drive, how many years (roughly) can you expect it to work?

In addidtion, if I understand that wearing issue right, if a SSD used up all it's writing cycles and backup cells, it simply does stop to write. So, if the lifecycle is over, you should be able to copy the data over to a new SSD or HDD and be fine?

 

Sillia

This week we went after Razorscale again and I deleted a bunch of old mods off my system. I don't know whether the small patch they added changed anything, but my frame rate was reasonable on Razorscale this time. Notably, I was not running Recount or Omen this time (though I hadn't updated either in a while).

 

EasirokThunderpants

I think something was changed this week, because I noticed that there was no problems on razor (running all the same mods, also with combat log and recount enabled). Thorim also seems to be much better this week - only one disconnect and he was having DC problems all night along so I discount that one. There was only a very slight stutter upon charging Thorim, nothing like what we had gotten used to.

Maybe it was stealth-fixed (hopefully), or perhaps just the rolling restarts on the realm did something for it.

 

KasumiRevy

Recount is a definite mod you can point to as a potential problem. It goes from a relatively small memory to 40 megabytes in 1 raid sitting. in addition we have to consider what it does, at it's core reading through combat logs and syncing with other users. If there is any mod I would worry about having performance effecting issues this is the one.

 

Blayze

Is Skada any better than Recount for memory use?

 

Julius

Hi,

Does anyone have experience running this service from Korea playing on Eu servers? Myself I have 700+ constant lag with spikes going to 2000k ms and frequent DC.I am not able to do any raiding nor arena and even
HC is sometimes hard. I tried to switch from a healing class (pala) to a pure dps with less responsibilities but my dps sucks badly.

Thanks in advance for any feedback,

Julius

 

chiyeuk

Hi (: I am playing on a one year old HP Pavilion dv2700 laptop and WoW runs at 2-4 FPS in combat in 25 man raids - is this usual? I've read through this whole thread and tried out all the tips and tweaks. Yes, I am playing at the lowest settings with minimal addons (Skada, oRA, Bartender, ForteXorcist, Addon Control Panel, OmniCC, DBM, Chatter).

Also, I am considering purchasing a new desktop but I'm not very knowledged in what's good for what price and all - was wondering if someone can help. Please keep in mind that although I will be mainly using the computer for gaming, graphic design, streaming videos, downloading, watching DVDS, I don't need a super good performance computer. I will be happy with 30-40 FPS in WoW running more addons than I am now (I've disabled Inline Aura, SCT, EngBags, and a few other small mods in raids just to squeeze out every bit of FPS I can). But I do hope the computer will last me for two years. I am getting the computer built by a friend and am considering the following parts/pieces:

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INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q8200 2.33GHZ 1333MHZ, 4MB CACHE 64 BIT *** $173.00

Asus P5Q SE (Intel P45, 1600FSB, Dual Channel, PCI-E 2.0, Core Duo2, Quad Core, ATX) *** $129.00
OR -> Asus P5QL/EPU (Intel P43, 1600FSB, Dual Channel, PCI-E 2.0, Core Duo2, Quad Core, ATX) *** $106.00

OCZ Gold OCZ2G8004GK PC6400 800Mhz 4GB Kit (2x2GB, 5-5-5-15, heatspreader, Lifetime) *** $65.00
OR -> OCZ Nvidia OCZ2N1066SR2GK PC8500 1066Mhz 2GB Kit (2x1GB, 5-5-5-15, heatspreaders, Lifetime) *** $54.00
OR -> OCZ TECHNOLOGY PLATINUM REVISION 2 DUAL CHANNEL KIT 2GB DDR2 PC6400 *** $50.00

EVGA GEFORCE GTS 250 SUPERCLOCKED PCI-E 512MB DDR3 256BIT DUAL DVI HDTV (512-P3-1151-TR) *** 168.00
OR -> EVGA GEFORCE 9400GT PCI-E 512MB DDR2 128BIT DUAL DVI HDTV (512-P3-N944) *** $55.00
OR -> EVGA GEFORCE 8400GS PCI-E 512MB DDR2 DVI TV-OUT (512-P2-N738-LR) *** $52.00

SAMSUNG 22X DVD/RW DUAL LAYER -BLACK (SH-S222A/BEBE) *** 27.00

COOLER MASTER ELITE 335 ATX TOWER CASE NO P/S -BLACK (RC-335-KKN1) *** $55.00
OR -> COOLER MASTER ELITE 330 ATX TOWER CASE NO P/S -BLACK *** $54.00
OR -> COOLER MASTER ELITE 341 MICRO ATX TOWER CASE NO P/S -BLACK (RC-341) *** $54.00
OR -> COOLER MASTER ELITE 360 ATX TOWER CASE NO P/S -BLACK (RC-360-KKN1-GP) *** $52.00
OR -> ASUS TA-K51 ATX TOWER CASE NO P/S -BLACK/SILVER *** $43.00

WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR BLUE 320GB 7200RPM SATA II 16MB 8.9MS (WD3200AAKS) *** $59.00
OR -> WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR BLUE 320GB 7200RPM SATA II 8MB (WD3200AAJS) *** $58.00
OR -> Western Digital 250GB 7200RPM (SATA2 8MB Cache) *** $53.00

Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop 700 (Cordless Multimedia Keyboard, Cordless Optical Scoll, USB) *** $32.00

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit w/ Windows 7 Upgrade (CD & License) *** $149.00

LG 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor (W2042TQ) *** $149.99
OR -> ASUS VH202T 20" 1600X1200 20000:1 5MS DVI SPEAKERS -BLACK *** $147.00
OR -> ASUS VH196T 19" 1440X900 5000:1 DVI 5MS SPEAKERS -BLACK *** $140.00

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Sorry for the big block of text! Ignore if you're not a computer nerd XD

 

Enoon

Something to try while you build a new rig is have you tried taking it apart and cleaning it with compressed air? Check the bottom during raids see how hot it gets. I had a 2yr old Dell 9400 laptop with a 7900 GO GS on Hodir I saw 4-5 FPS @ 1400x1050 and it was driving me mad as I had never had any issues. After another awful night of very low FPS and feeling how hot my laptop got I went online and found a guide to disassemble it. Crikey the dustballs I found where terrible. I had on occasion sprayed air in the vents to clean them but after taking it apart I saw my efforts had been in vain. The space between the heatsinks and fans for the GPU & CPU fan were almost totally blocked by dust bunnies.

I also picked up a Zalman laptop cooler, between that and cleaning the laptop the change was drastic. I was up to 20+FPS @ 1900x1200 and where the laptop was almost uncomfortably hot to hold now barely got warm.

Even so I decided to move on and now have an Alienware M17x hehe.

Edit: Just be cautious about possibly voiding whatever warranty you may have by disassembling it.

 

• Synwyn

I've been having random crashes with my 9800 GTX. I've looked absolutely everywhere, and I've found nobody elses having crashes. (albiet random ones, nobody has said anything about consistantly getting random crashes, in random places.) It can literally happen anywhere. My temperatures are fine. I'm using the 190.62 nvidia drivers right now, but I've tried bunches and bunches of them, to no avail. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing it? (I know it's not the video card, because it runs every other game perfectly. I've posted everywhere else, and nobody has been able to crack this case. This is basically directed at anyone else who might use this card.

There are 293 ways to make change for a dollar.

 

vraket

Do these random crashes affect other programs or games? Random crashes are typically caused by faulty memory, so I'd check that atleast.

 

Dokushin

I have this card (and, potentially, this problem) as well.

I'm running the Win 7 beta at the moment, but have had the trouble in Vista as well. What will happen is the screen will freeze and cease updating; one click anywhere on it will change the WoW cursor to an hourglass, and the second will cause an instant crash to desktop without so much as an error dialog. It is much more frequent on starting the client and also seems to happen most when loading from drive, specifically sounds.

Still working on a fix.

 

leladax

I had severe crashes ending in "Exception: 0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 001B:0065623A". They could be reproduced by exiting an instance while in combat. Often, that could also make the character being locked out of the game for 10minutes with "name already exists", quite nasty when in a group.

I noticed that only if I disabled IceHUD it would go away.

My resolution currently is installing PitBull and using Runewatch and avoiding Icehud altogether.

PS. This is probably only indirectly related to IceHUD and probably a wow bug. There have been others reporting the same error under similar conditions while they were on quite different hardware setups.

 

• Synwyn

Exactly my problem, too! Alrighty then, I'll keep investigating, and I'm assuming you're doing the same. I'll be sure to let you know on here if I figure anything out. As of last night, I went back to XP, to see if it may be a vista/win7 problem.

There are 293 ways to make change for a dollar.

 

• Synwyn

The crashes don't affect any other games or programs. Just WoW. I thought about the memory thing, so I threw it in my spare machine, and all of it is fine.

There are 293 ways to make change for a dollar.

 

• Goatbert

Have you tried a fresh install of WoW? Just rename your current World of Warcraft folder and reinstall from the Wrath DVD, then restore your wtf/interface folders. I'd start with a clear config.wtf at first though.

How predictable are these crashes? If WoW ran for an hour without crashing would that be unusual, or are they not that regular?

 

• Philemon

I've been experiencing the same issue as Synwyn, using the EVGA. My PC has 4GB of RAM, and I'm running Windows 7 x64. I have been running the Memory Diagnostics Utility while at work over the past few days to confirm my RAM isn't bad. I did modify the `textureCacheSize` variable in the `config.wtf` file, but resetting it has not fixed the problem. I assume that the Windows Memory Diagnostic utility does not test the memory on my graphics card. Is there any way to test that memory?

My client's crashes are not predictable. That said, it is apparent that they occur when my client is attempting to load/unload data (for example, while transitioning between zones, or landing in Dalaran). I can't speak for Synwyn, but I believe our crashes are related.