Hello everyone :)

I'm new to the forums here, been reading a lot about Druids (Since that's my main class over on Whisperwind) and read a lot of how you guys use Feral/Balance Spec Druids in you're raids, and just how versitile they are..

I was wondering, if you have any Shadow Priest builds, or if any of your priests have tried any build..

I'm preety sure since priests talents haven't been updated, you probably haven't tried it, but I have a 60 druid, and 60 priest, and absolutly love playing my priest because of shadow spec etc. I am however, 7/0/44 on my druid, which is my I don't solo or do DPS very well :). Like you guys said about itemization, I haven't worked on a tank/dps set for my druid, and don't really know if I will. I would love to pull my SP into a few raids, and see how effectlvly I can heal and do DPS..

Was just wondering if you have any suggestions on specs / itemization for a SP build that can both do damage, and healing (while still trying to conserve mana :P)

Thanks all the advice so far (been reading quite a lot), and congrats on being a successful guild :)

-Reach 60 Priest
-Magis 60 Druid

(Not sure if I should post this here, or in the EJ Druid discussion, but I figured it deals with a whole different topic (SP as compared to Fearl/Balance druids, but if you would like to move it, I completly understand.)

We have (or had, Im not totally sure) one priest who was spec'd shadow, but he never used shadowform. He hangs out with the warlocks and we made him an honorary 'lock.

I was thinking of doing some kind of hybrid build (For PvP and raiding)

going maybe like 26 in Disclipline (get inner focus, mental strength, and +15 mana regen)

and then putting the rest in shadow, for silence, and maybe vampric embrace would be nice for trash mobs or something.

the +10% Shadow damage, and Shadow vulnerability would be dearly missed, but I could be almost like a hybrid, can heal when I need to, and can also lay on some DPS..

Just an Idea though

I think that it was agreed that SP's tear through mana too fast to truly be effective.

they should get lifetap

Yea, the consensus was that a well geared shadow priest could do massive DPS with very low aggro generation and be a useful emergency healer.

IF YOU'RE ALLIANCE.

JoW would completely make or break the build basically.

The problem with shadow spec/ balance and the like is that the more they dps the less they can heal later. While shamans/feral druids/paladins (LOL) can go and hit something while they regen mana, you go out of mana (yes even with JoW). I really can't think of a way of making such a thing truly raid effective in a fight that mattered.

Edit: That doesn't mean that you can't raid with shadow talents, or that you can't find a useful balance between shadow for your pvp play style and healing talents. Just that the extra utility in a dps burn fight is unlikely to outweigh the loss in any other fight, and that there is a fundamental reason for that where the solution doesn't lie in itemization.

I need a fix of shadow weaving

Give it to me baby

Cardrian wands his way up our damage meters. :o

Shadow is not viable at all for DPS as a Horde guild. As for Alliance, they can easily get close to 50% of the mana back from Mind Flay with JoW.

If there were a few more "group friendly" options to Shadow (VE doesn't count, k?), such as a Moonkin type Shadowform, I wouldn't be surprised to see more Shadow Priests on raids.

Thanks for all the info :)

JoW would be really beneficial, but like you guys said, they go out of mana too fast :/

I died a lot. I blamed Card (for weaving) or Zibro (for already being dead). It was a pretty good arrangement, really.

We had priests our last MC clear for fun told a priest to go shadowform and melt faces. They proved to have an impressive ability to pull agro and get themselves killed, sorta like a warlock with less survivability.

The priest not being able to heal himself was wonderful.

they don't know whent to takes breaks.

Any priest who was serious about shadow in pve would have the -aggro talent and have no problems.

Pretty much, Wodin. Shadow Affinity and Silent Resolve = 50% less threat on all shadow spells.

Basically, yeah. That's what our own analysis of the possibility led us to.

It's kind of funny that shadow priests theoretically have the best aggro mitigation of any caster in the game, with Fade to buy them extra time when they fuck up. They theoretically could yield the highest DPS of any caster class with the way threat currently scales.

Shame we don't have infinite mana on the Horde side of things.

Honestly I didn't even know those talents existed. Every shadow priest I've talked to about their spec has chosen it for how it fits their pvp playstyle.

But some kind of 21/0/30 spec looks like it could fulfill that desire, remain a good healer, and have pve dps viability as well. Which is a nice amount of versatility for an alliance priest.

Shouldn't it be "role?"

I wondered how long it'd take someone to acknowledge that. I started to edit it myself but figured that would have the opposite effect I desired by leaving it.

Took quite a long time for someone to mention it. I didnt even notice it until it was mentioned ( I am sure that surprises few of you).

I originally thought this would be some sort loot thread. My preconceived notion was furthered when I saw "feral druid" and "shaman" in the same post. But when I took time to read it, I saw that I was wrong.