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Old 11/17/05, 12:50 PM   #1
hamlet_the_lesser
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Just curious, I noticed you can single target destroy the spirits but it is far too large of an amount of them for 1 or 2 people to even scratch the surface. Other than that he doesnt seem too bad.


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Old 11/17/05, 12:56 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by hamlet,November 17th, 2005 @ 12:50PM
Just curious, I noticed you can single target destroy the spirits but it is far too large of an amount of them for 1 or 2 people to even scratch the surface. Other than that he doesnt seem too bad.
Fortunately for us we usually bring more than 1 or 2 people to Lethon.

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Old 11/17/05, 1:06 PM   #3
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I dunno I like to solo him when I have the time.


So I am guessing you guys focus damage on the spirits when you fight him. I am just curious cause I helped with one kill on my server where the RL told us to ignore the spirits and focus damage on the dragon. Seemed to take awhile but worked pretty well.


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Old 11/17/05, 1:15 PM   #4
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Does it take more time to kill a spirit or to dps through all the health one heals again?

I think you have your answer right there.

Or you could ask your server dude why he choose a certain strategy, why is usually a pretty good question to ask.

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Old 11/17/05, 1:21 PM   #5
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It was a fight last night and my first experience with him. It was just something I was thinking about this morning and it didnt really occur to me to ask why he chose to use that strategy. I am always looking to make stuff easier for myself and was curious if perhaps there was a specific reason to not kill the spirits. Since I was just doing my free agen duties last night I was just gonna do exactly what I was told to do and really wasnt there to ask questions.


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Old 11/17/05, 1:23 PM   #6
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No, that's a retarded strategy.

I can understand telling HEALERS not to kill spirits, because you might figure that surviving spirits = longer fight but dead tank = wipe. But if any DPS class is doing anything other than killing shades while shades are still up, that's just plain dumb.

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Old 11/17/05, 1:29 PM   #7
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It did seem a bit odd but I had made the assumption that they had already attempted the killing of the spirits and it did no good. They had attempted him a couple other times that I was unable to make it for so I assumed they knew best. Apparently not, I will have to talk to the RL about his reasoning behind DPSing through the heals. Like I said it was a kill but took quite awhile and on a pvp server time is of the essence on a world dragon.


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Old 11/17/05, 1:55 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by hamlet,November 17th, 2005 @ 1:29PM
Like I said it was a kill but took quite awhile and on a pvp server time is of the essence on a world dragon.
LOL, not on this server. At least for the 4 new dragons. If only people didn't mind to wipe a couple of times, and more people were online. Oh, well.

I don't think any other guild or mixed up group has killed the 4 dragons other then EJ. Shit when the dragons pop, they(EJ) probably don't need to hurry over. They could fly to the damn spawns and save soul shards.

BUT, elfan and I have killed 3 of them. Don't ask me how, we just did.

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Old 11/17/05, 2:00 PM   #9
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I can easily kill 4-5 shades with rank 1 moonfire before they reach Lethon.

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Old 11/17/05, 2:13 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by newladin,November 17th, 2005 @ 1:55PM
Originally Posted by hamlet,November 17th, 2005 @ 1:29PM
Like I said it was a kill but took quite awhile and on a pvp server time is of the essence on a world dragon.
LOL, not on this server. At least for the 4 new dragons. If only people didn't mind to wipe a couple of times, and more people were online. Oh, well.

I don't think any other guild or mixed up group has killed the 4 dragons other then EJ. Shit when the dragons pop, they(EJ) probably don't need to hurry over. They could fly to the damn spawns and save soul shards.

BUT, elfan and I have killed 3 of them. Don't ask me how, we just did.
Ysondre is quite competitive when she spawns.

Aeternus/Aftermath groups have at least 3-4 dragon kills, probably more.

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Old 11/17/05, 2:58 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Praetorian,November 17th, 2005 @ 2:13PM
Originally Posted by newladin,November 17th, 2005 @ 1:55PM
Originally Posted by hamlet,November 17th, 2005 @ 1:29PM
Like I said it was a kill but took quite awhile and on a pvp server time is of the essence on a world dragon.
LOL, not on this server. At least for the 4 new dragons. If only people didn't mind to wipe a couple of times, and more people were online. Oh, well.

I don't think any other guild or mixed up group has killed the 4 dragons other then EJ. Shit when the dragons pop, they(EJ) probably don't need to hurry over. They could fly to the damn spawns and save soul shards.

BUT, elfan and I have killed 3 of them. Don't ask me how, we just did.
Ysondre is quite competitive when she spawns.

Aeternus/Aftermath groups have at least 3-4 dragon kills, probably more.
OH, thats why you guys always take so long to get to the NON-EASY dragons first.

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Old 11/17/05, 3:29 PM   #12
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our server has alot of guilds competing. There is usually 4-5 guilds total and they are split. There are atleast 2 horde guilds that run over to it and 3 alliance guilds.

We also have 5 guilds that have killed nefarian and 3 others on him. Most were frustrated that they werent the first so they are fighting over these dragons for the NR stuff for AQ cause they all want to get the first kills. It is quite entertaining watching the silly bickering about who was first for what. Typically you get 1 hour after spawn to get him killed. I have gotten 3am phone calls(waking me up :() asking if I want to help out.


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Old 11/17/05, 3:34 PM   #13
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By the way the reason I got from them was that since he can be DPSed down so quickly they feel it just isnt worth it to for each phase of healing. So they just let him heal up at the 75% point and DPS some down at the 50% and 25% points. I guess to each his own. They have been successful so I cant really knock it but I find it interesting how different peoples techniques are.


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Old 11/17/05, 4:02 PM   #14
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Successful or not, they're extending the fight more than they should, allowing more time and more opportunities for something to go wrong. A swift damage spike on the MT, coupled with a lapse in healing, and all that effort they put in (which possibly allowed other guilds more time to start gathering for an attempt) goes to waste.

No, I think we'll keep killing the shades and quickly move on to the next dragon, since they all typically spawn at the same time, thank you very much.

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Old 11/17/05, 4:10 PM   #15
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yeah I tend to agree, but they will most likely continue with that plan of action till it backfires on them. Success many times breeds complacency(spelling?). We didnt get any real alliance defiance till the very end but I am sure if this boss like most of the others becomes more hotly contested they will want to figure out how to speed up the fight. I would say the fight lasted somewhere around 10 minutes but I am just going off of memory and really dont know for sure.


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