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Old 11/23/05, 9:12 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Lord BEEF,November 23rd, 2005 @ 9:01PM
I don't like anticipation. Defense is great, but not at 10 for 5 talent points.

Toughness is much more important in my opinion, and scales better. Defense reduces the chance of you taking crits and increases your chance of avoiding hits. Toughness helps you survive through a nasty crit/crushing blow streak which I believe is ultimately more important.
Well I think it depends on how much defense you have.

If I were a mostly-blues tank starting on MC and trying not to run my healers out of mana, I think I'd get Anticipation.

But yeah, once you get a bunch of epics, it's so not worth 5 talent points.

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Old 11/23/05, 10:19 PM   #17
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Heh, oddly enough when we started MC I didn't have any points in it, despite being protection specced as I had 430 defense with my blue gear.

Shortly after that though came the +def nerf patch which dropped this down to around 375 mark, at which time I respecced to get the 10 back from Anticipation.

Now I'm back up at 418 with the talent, seeing how infrequent the crits are occurring and how we're better able to cope with those crits anyways due to gearing up I'm looking at better ways to maximise the build.

It's definitely looking like the talents in Anticipation are not worth it any more.

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Old 11/24/05, 9:48 PM   #18
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I tried speccing a warrior once... At first, I couldn't figure out why I couldn't make my tanking better while also significantly boosting my damage, then I remembered I wasn't speccing my druid B)

I'd go for toughness instead of anticipation, but that may just be because I'm coming from a druid background where AC means almost everything for mitigation.

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Old 11/25/05, 12:28 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by decimus,November 24th, 2005 @ 9:48PM
I'd go for toughness instead of anticipation, but that may just be because I'm coming from a druid background where AC means almost everything for mitigation.
Differnt tiers :-(

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Old 11/25/05, 1:42 PM   #20
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Yeah they are on different tiers, but I guess I'm assuming that you already have 5 points in shield specialization.

And what's so funny about my profile? I'm confused :(

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Old 11/25/05, 2:54 PM   #21
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/afk made me laugh

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Old 11/25/05, 3:28 PM   #22
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I can't remember who the leader was, but once I joined a MF AB and the first thing that greeted me was some macro spam: Welcome to MF AB. The point of this is to farm honor, as such we will be afking out of games against other organized groups. If you have any disagreements with this, leave now.

That was probably the shortest amount of time I've ever seen a raid group break up.

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