There is a simpler way. The cats pounce ability has a minimum range (8 yards) so a line of sight pull (we used death and decay and hiding the raid around a corner) is the way to go, and is a lot safer. Even so you have to be careful with misdirects etc, because if all 4 cats hit one tank at the same time even without pounce the tank is likely to get instagibbed.

I think that, given the ease with which a tank can eat the blast when CDs are used, there is no good reason not to.

There's enough going on in that fight that you don't need to complicate matters with a mobile Dark Glare.

The huge hit at the end of grip is, I would assume, simply a measure implemented to prevent groups from perma-healing the 3 gripped people and just DPSing the chest to death, as well as simply an added 'dps check' for the encounter. 450k in 10 seconds in and of itself is not hard. It requires ~3k DPS per person, not a high number, but I think it's the 2-3 seconds to swap and charge up lasers that's giving some people trouble. If so, simply sit on the right arm permanently, so your DPS is already going all-out when he grips someone.

From memory, in 10 man crush armour is a 20 second debuff, which he tries to apply with an avoidable (dodge/parry/miss, but not block) attack every ~15 seconds. I simply used a dodge trinket at ~7 seconds left on the debuff every time it hit 2 stacks. At 3, I had the OT taunt, or I used divine protection if he was tanking rubble. On 25 man the debuff lasts significantly longer, around 45-50 seconds I think, and I can't say how often he tries to apply it. Again, using dodge clickies to let the debuff fall off at 2 stacks can work well, and simply calling for another tank to taunt at 3 (or 2, depending how squishy you are at 50% armour). Remember to be aware when switching tanks that the rubble puts a stacking debuff on tanks too, increasing physical damage taken by 5% per stack. It's quite feasible to get up to 10 stacks of this, at which point there's not a lot of point doing a tank swap since either tank will be getting hit very hard. This debuff has a much shorter duration, however (10-15 seconds from memory).

Additionally, I do remember a petrifying breath 'bug' on Kologarn (but can't remember if it was 10 or 15). I hadn't moved in the preceeding 30+ seconds, so not sure what caused it, it may be linked somehow to his eyebeam though, which directly preceeded the breath.

Even then, in a raid that averages over 5k DPS on each member, with everyone sitting on the arm he occasionally kills people with lifeless squeeze. We're convinced that this boss is simply bugged and that sometimes he just ignores the damage and kills the person anyways.

Put up a totem in her patrol path and let the shaman run through and behind the raid, while your tanks are spread in the corners of the raid. When Auriaya aggroes, the sentinels will run for the shaman, passing through the raid, where all the tanks can judge/heroic throw/taunt/etc. their add, without the need to misdirect (you don't want to overstrain a hunter's brain)

I have.

I am of course not 100% sure of this (it was a couple of days ago, several tries etc) but I'm very confident that we took the arm down around 30% without him letting our people go once (as in, he grabs, we switch to arm, blast (during hero) around 30% off and they still died).

We just wrote it down to bad luck (it did happen several other times too, but not so extreme as here)

We had this as well and it seems intended for the 25-men version. What we ended up doing is not kiting it, but just tanking it together with the other two adds and have a rogue blow a 5 point kidneyshot when the stack reached 30. It would usually die during that stun, so we had no problems afterwards.

Since all these adds can be stunned and slowed by regular means, you could also drop a frost trap or earthbind totem to slow it a bit so your tank can kite it. Also, since you'll have to deal with only 2 of these waves anyway, you can just blow some cooldowns to keep your tank up and heal through it.

Freya's tank is healable with one healer, so you should have a fair amount of spare healing.

We also had the same problems with Auriaya. Multiple times when tanking her on the edge of the stairs would result in respawning panters after a couple minutes in the fight.

Apart from that we seem to have alot more problem with the frenzied panter (not sure on the name) who seems to be killing people everytime they are still low from sonic blast. We tried killing him but it pretty much becomes to chaotic with kiting or fear into voidzones.

about the pull: We had Warrior MT auriaya DK and another warrior tanking 2 cats. We started LoS with a Death and decay on the ground. Then the warrior would heroic throw + taunt one to the other side when they came in los. He and the DK pretty much used all cooldowns the second before they got in Los.

With regard to Snaplashers on Freya.

Do not dps the Snaplasher until the other 2 adds are at ~10% then dps the Snaplasher from 100% to dead then finish the other 2. Makes it cake.

Just as a note to others it seems that General Vezax is bugged in 10 man and is healing for the amount he should in 25. Now obviously he's still killable but I just wanted to give a heads up to anyone else being extremely frustrated by him. We got this information from a twice escalated ticket to a GM which for once gave answers which was very very re-assuring and I'd reccomend other people that are finding bugs to report them though tickets too. It seems they've branched away from the "working as intended" response and are being quite open minded and willing to check abilities and any strange bugs with Ulduar.

I experienced the General Vezax heal bug in 10 man as well. It took us a lot of tries to eventually down him (no help in part from the retarded 1 hour respawn on the trash that should be spaced farther apart).

He heals for 100k a tick per person and the Mark of the Faceless will tick the instant it is applied - no delay at all. The heal is also capped at 5 people being drained at a time, so on ten man that averages to ~ 6.5% of his life healed the instant he applies it if it hits the full 5 players. On 25man the same ability will only heal him for ~1.5% of his life per second.

I am assuming that it's intended for the caster DPS to bunch up in the Shadow Crashes. I am also assuming that it's intended for more than 1-2 people to be able to use a Saronite Vapor at any given time. Based on how easy he is on the 25man I think it's safe to say that he's bugged.


The way we overcame this was to wait until after a Mark of the Faceless to use a Saronite Vapor and limited people to two at a time for every Shadow Crash (multiple will be up).


I also noticed that about 40% of the Saronite Vapors gave me no mana back at all.