Has anyone tried if Ignis's adds are deathgrippable as they are rootable on both 10 and 25man? That would make easier to get them into the scorches. Stacking the scorches by draggin the adds into the flames just doesnt seem to be very easy and getting it stacked high enough before the scorch actually runs out.

On XT002, are the people who get pulled into nearby gravity well supposed to take damage? I thought from that spell description that they were, but it didnt seem to be the case for us. Only the person with the debuff did seem to get damaged by on average 19-20k damage. Which in combination of Tantrum is rather deadly to anyone.

Gravity wells AoE damage caps out at 10 yards
0-10 yards - 20k dmg + pull
10-20 yards - 140 dmg + Pull

Our moonkin was roots + Wrathing them to shatter i beliieve (ignis adds)

2 Fragments so far for us - not too shabby.

I have a rather simple question: How do people position on XT002?

We tried it in one spot but Tantrum + Lightbomb usually killed someone. Is spreading out or making camps the way to go?

We started on this last night but had to quit before finishing. The only hard things to deal with that we found were the Clockwork Sappers. They do a targeted, channeled, uninterruptable mindflay animation that does extremely high damage and also drains mana very fast. They cannot be sheeped, but can be stunned, feared, cycloned, and freezing trapped. When they die, they drop a land mine that will one-shot anyone nearby if detonated.

Our best goes at these pulls involved perfect crowd control, and fast stuns on the kill targets whenever they started their nukes. I expect that the mines can be disarmed, but am unsure.

The spider robots (I forgot their name) allow you to mount them like vehicles, and then you can destroy turrets that spawn with them.

If anyone has more to add, or suggestions for making the Mimiron trash easier, please contribute.


edit: If we don't learn anything before we go back today, then I think we will try kiting these guys more. I read a few places on the General WoW forums that maybe they won't nuke people if they are chasing their main target, so just kiting and LOSing them might work.

They are, the tactic we use is to have a dk moev to the water when a golem is almost molten and dg it there when it hits molten.

Correct about the Gravity well, dunno if its a bug or not.

It does not but you can remove tantrum completly. As we killed him yestarday without single tantrum, we understood that when he becomes immune tantrum timer resets to 1min. So if you take him from immunity to 50% <1min you won't have tantrum.

Heart : Deconstructor dmg ratio. It's 4:1 or 5:1 percentage wise. Basicly if you take heart to 50% you will dmg deconstructor by ~12.5% and so on.

I'd suggest bloodlusting at 84-88% without using any CDs whatsoever. For us this let us have full BL uptime on 1st heart, when it poped we blew all personal cds. That moment we had him already at 52% coming for next heart phase.

That's what triggers his "hard mode". Once you destroy the heart, he gets Heartbreak activated, and you still have to kill him from 100%. I'm not sure how he behaves during the downtime, but that really sets the DPS bar pretty high. In 10-man, that means you need to deal 2.25 million damage just to activate the hard mode, and then an additional 8.4M damage to kill the bugger himself. 10.6 million damage in 6 minutes yields a raid DPS of ~30k. I'm not sure exactly how the add phases factor in though; we didn't get that far in our attempts. If he still goes through the full 30 seconds per "heart" phase, that increases the DPS requirement significantly... losing 90 seconds of DPS time pushes the raid requirement up to ~40k. This is, of course, just theory. Since we're mostly on moratorium from discussing further, I'll just continue to experiment with my guild as we gear up further and we'll see how things go.

My guild got him into this position (or close to it) tonight. He'll go full duration of the tantrum; he won't cancel it. He doesn't shut down immediately, but he goes into the scripted shutdown sequence so you still get a couple of seconds of DPS on him while he does his emote and squats down a little.

Had a good time in the 10 man last night, Skipped Ignius and The Iron Council to kill Kologarn and get into the watcher area. Called the raid after about an hour of attempts on Hodir, we had been two healing the whole night (Disc priest + resto shaman) one of our tanks switched to his healer for the last few attempts on Hodir. I was trying to understand how the affect of the mages cozy fire worked, I know it will stop the biting cold from stacking and I think it also prevents his frost nova type ability but will it prevent the aoe raid damage after a flash freeze?

Still unclear on the hard modes for Leviathan.. There are four towers.. The hardest mode is to destroy none of them? Or to destroy all of them?

delete please, previous poster already answered the question.