sno

My previous statement was from comparations in Rawr, but it didn't take account of the procc correctly at that time, with the procc it is on par with the 701 SP weapons from totgc or even slightly better.

 

Peaseblossom

29 Fragments, woohoo! We only have Iron Council left in our instance this week, so unless we're extremely unlucky we'll start working on Yogg+3 next week. Many thanks to all posters in this thread for insight into which Keepers to leave up, even if no one can seem to agree.

Now I'm reading around about turning in the quest you get from 30 Fragments, Ancient History, and I'm coming across conflicting information. Will the console be accessible after any Iron Council kill? Or does it have to be done on hard mode -- and if so, does it have to be Steelbreaker last? Or would Molgeim suffice?

I realize this is old stuff for many of you, but if anyone recalls it would certainly help me figure out what to do with IC tonight.

 

Ragaklogg

It will be accessible even if you kill Council in normal mode

 

maddfez

You can even do the quest in a 10 man version of Ulduar if, for whatever reason, you were killing IC after Yogg.

 

• frmorrison

At least for a Paladin that uses Holy Light, Val'anyr will not be replaced this expansion. Being able to put shields on people every 45 seconds is better than a few more stats and spell power (due to how Holy Light works).

DK - Ashbane Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor.

 

◊ Ezy

Since one of, if not the #1 gemming for paladins is straight intellect stacking, the difference of 80 spellpower does not make up for the amount absorbed through the proc, the only time I could see the mass spellpower being worth it was for the FoL pallies that premo and some other guilds use.

 

Peaseblossom

My guild finally scored our Val'anyr last night; thanks to everyone in this thread for help with the process of getting it.

We went with leaving Mimiron out, since it seemed to be the prevailing wisdom, even though phase 2 was the only phase that gave us any difficulty when we were learning Yogg in the first place. And it was nothing. Our kill was actually a much cleaner attempt than any of our Yogg+4 kills -- maybe it was just a matter of people being extra-focused. At any rate, certainly for anyone approaching this with ToC gear, one Keeper doesn't make much of a difference at all.