Theorycrafting Olympics - Page 2

• bartolimu · 03/02/06, 6:05 PM

Originally Posted by Demitrius,March 2nd, 2006 @ 8:13AM

Now you're pissed. How dare the game deny you 1.3k base shadowbolts

On (now extremely rare) occasion I pull aggro on Firemaw without casting a single Shadow Bolt. :kaubel:

Slug · 03/03/06, 9:07 AM

Originally Posted by Drauk,March 2nd, 2006 @ 6:12AM

How about one with 5/5 shadow weaving for boosting lock DPS ?

Zibro has died.
Blam has died.
Gilliam has died.
You tell Gilliam "Haha sucker!"
Slug says "oops."
Slug has died.
Mhedic has died.

Zoid tells you "Pull more agro."
Neptune tells you "Die more, n00b."
Mhedic tells you "I'm not healing you anymore on this run."

...
Zoid wants to res you...
You tell Mhedic "Fort please."
Mhedic tells you "DIAF."
You tell Zoid "Fort please."
...

Cardrian says "Shadow Vuln over here..."

Slug says "WOOOOO!!"
Zibro says "Oops."
Blam says "Oh."

Zibro has died.
Slug has died.
Blam has died.

Gilliam tells you "Ruin is best build."
You tell Gilliam "Go pull agro on firemaw again or something. =P"

Good times.

• bartolimu · 03/03/06, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Slug,March 3rd, 2006 @ 6:07AM

Gilliam tells you "Ruin is best build."

You take that back you filthy liar, I never said any such thing. :angry:

Mhedic tells you "I'm not healing you anymore on this run."

This however is completely accurate and extremely common.

You tell Mhedic "Fort please."
Mhedic tells you "Don't waste my mana you'll die next pull anyway."

Edited for accuracy. Yes, I've actually been told that by several priests.

Cardrian says "Shadow Vuln over here..."

Slug says "WOOOOO!!"
Zibro says "Oops."
Blam says "Oh."

Zibro has died.
Slug has died.

Yes, that order's about right. Zibro is our coal mining canary, our guinea pig of threat if you will. As long as he hasn't fallen over dead we're safe. Slug and Blam are the second line of defense for us poor defenseless Dark Pact specs.

It's really a shame those things don't live long enough for Curse of Doom. :(

norg · 03/03/06, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by bartolimu,March 3rd, 2006 @ 10:50AM

It's really a shame those things don't live long enough for Curse of Doom. :(

I managed to get one on once - 12k or something silly. It was a fun way to die.

Cayman · 03/03/06, 12:07 PM

the ultimate passive-aggressive build for priests who not-so-secretly want their own warlocks to die

Since shadow weaving got moved up in the tree to 15 points, a priest can have both it and power infusion. Combine this with the mana conservation talents in disc, and while the priest won't do as much damage as a 31-34 shadow build, they can spam lower ranks of mind flay to gain mana (Or max rank on alliance side, <3 blessing/judgment of EZMode). Between this and power infusion, your raid will do lots of damage, you'll have the mana pool to FH in fights where it's more useful, and you can cause a warlock of your choosing to generate so much agro that rag stands up, lumbers over to said warlock, turns his hammer sideways and... yeah.

• bartolimu · 03/03/06, 2:43 PM

Paging Cardrian to thread #6020

Revenj · 03/03/06, 5:11 PM

Well, Arc/Frost is the way to go if you are purely PvE, in litereally every sense of the word. Back in the day, when MC was actually a challenge, no one could argue the viability of frost over fire. However, as it stands now.. Fire is very much viable, thanks to AQ.
IceBlock is amazing for PvE and PvP. IB is great when you pull aggro.. the moment you see your name on MT's Target's Target, you Iceblock - a dirty little escape.

Also, we have a couple of Mages with Improved Scorch - this adds 10% to our damage. You can go pure fire and get Firepower... thus giving you a massive 20% increase in damage. This is NOT trivial at all!!
The 10% alone from Improved Scorch is great, Firepower is some sweet iceing.

I personally cant wait for the Mage talent review.

Ofcourse, there will be fights like Ragnaros, and BWL drakes, where a Frost mage will substantially out damage other Mages - but who cares about those guys?

AQ is the salvation of Fire mages

subscience · 03/03/06, 5:25 PM

The problem is, however, that Fire damage output is capped at a much lower threshold than, say, a Hunter's since Mages don't have an inate and activateable hate modifying skill for Fire or Frost.

I was personally a Fire Mage in MC and on non-Fire immune mobs I'd simply use Fireball. I did extremely well in terms of damage output, especially with the old CoE.

Revenj · 03/03/06, 6:14 PM

Originally Posted by subscience,March 3rd, 2006 @ 5:25PM

The problem is, however, that Fire damage output is capped at a much lower threshold than, say, a Hunter's since Mages don't have an inate and activateable hate modifying skill for Fire or Frost.

I was personally a Fire Mage in MC and on non-Fire immune mobs I'd simply use Fireball. I did extremely well in terms of damage output, especially with the old CoE.

Well, that is an inherent problem with the Mage class as whole, regardless of spec. I am confident that the developers are going to look into that in the upcoming Mage talent review

Brown Bread · 03/03/06, 6:22 PM