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Old 06/26/09, 1:46 AM   #346
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Originally Posted by Krixooks View Post
they look a awful.. cyclops much?
I'd say Cylons myself.

Thanks for the item compositions Jagiya!

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Old 06/26/09, 2:09 AM   #347
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Okay, this is the last one I could dig up. There's no plate files in there yet. I don't know if this is Shaman or Hunter, but after the horrible job I did with the Druid and Cloth sets I decided to snap these onto a real model so they don't look so silly. No helm graphic for this set yet.


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Old 06/26/09, 2:25 AM   #348
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I'm fine with more tunics

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Old 06/26/09, 8:59 AM   #349
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http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...eathknight.jpg
http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...ce_paladin.jpg
http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...ce_warrior.jpg

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Old 06/26/09, 10:40 AM   #350
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And we're all wearing Warrior Tier 1 hats... on our shoulders.

I love the idea of Horde and Alliance getting different models. But if it means their quality of design is this low, I say failed experiment. For example, Alliance Two-handed maces look like lower quality renderings of the Titansteel Destroyer.

A section of the playerbase (of which I'm a member) has long thought that Blizzard should devote more art resources to item models. Yes, Ulduar is beautiful, the Coliseum looks decent, but you look at your toon (and other toons) absolutely everywhere.

Rock: "We're sub-standard DPS. Nerf Paper, Scissors are fine."
Paper: "OMG, WTF, Scissors!"
Scissors: "Rock is OP and Paper are QQers. We need PvP buffs."

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Old 06/26/09, 7:17 PM   #351
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The budget they put into gear definitely seems to have gone downhill. They recycle a lot of item models and designs as offset (and now all of the armor types of the same type share models in t9), which is irritating to say the least when they've said before that silhouette is important to them for classes in PvP.

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Old 06/26/09, 8:06 PM   #352
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There was an interesting lore reason/understandable reason for the similar look posited on the mmo-champ comments. Since we're receiving this armor from the Argent Crusade and they're trying to make an army to assault Icecrown then it might be that they're trying to uniform us up a bit to turn us into more of an army than a ragtag force of heroes. Sort of like the different colored stormtrooper suits in Star Wars: Republic Commando/Clone Wars etc.

I agree that it is cheap and lame after the hype of different stuff for alliance and horde created an expectation for full tier equivalent sets for every class twice. I guess this goes along with the discussion earlier in the thread with whether this is Sunwell or an actual tier according to blizzard and art-wise I think it is along the lines of AQ/Sunwell rather than BT/Ulduar.

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Old 06/27/09, 6:02 AM   #353
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Originally Posted by Kaejin View Post
Tthat silhouette is important to them for classes in PvP.
These are the PvE sets. They've said that PvE and PvP sets would have separate looks.

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Old 06/27/09, 3:53 PM   #354
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Old 06/27/09, 6:53 PM   #355
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Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
These are the PvE sets. They've said that PvE and PvP sets would have separate looks.
So it's alright for everyone sharing an armor class to look the same in PvE? It's a double standard that doesn't make most of us happy. Gear variety doesn't feel like it means much when it all looks the same. Uld has a lot of gear, so it's understandable that some of it shares models or are just recolors, but when the only unique loot comes from Algalon or the fact that it's the only loot of it's type, it just seems lazy.

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Old 06/27/09, 7:36 PM   #356
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Were people honestly expecting Blizzard to make 20 (30 when you include Season 7) completely different models of gear this patch?

Even sharing the models among the same armour type of your faction, that's still 8 new models of gear (instead of the usual 10). And even then, they've managed to still make the Alliance plate armour differ in certain ways (e.g. graphic on the chest). I assume they'll continue to make similar slight changes on the other sets as well.

I'll quite gladly look like the hunters in my raid if it means that I get to walk into Icecrown as a member of an army of Horde soliders and not have to look the same as all the blue space goats running around Dalaran.

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Old 06/27/09, 7:56 PM   #357
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I figure Coliseum raid is more analogous to Ahn'Qiraj; since the Ahn'Qiraj sets also looked very similar to each other. I mean more or less every "cycle" we really get 4 sets, but only 3 named tiers or something. (Tier 1 2 3 and then AQ gear, Tier 4 5 6 and then Sunwell gear).

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Everyone should start from the same place and rise based on their abilities, desires, and schedule. No one plays MMOs to *be* powerful, they play MMOs to *become* powerful. It's the journey, stupid. The rarer loot is, the more cherished it is when you get it, but only so long as there is a reasonable expectation to get it. The rarer loot is, the better it feels when you kill a boss or when $AWESOME_TRINKET drops.

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Old 06/27/09, 10:07 PM   #358
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Item models is an area that Blizzard has always been fairly lazy/frugal with, so I just had realistic expectations for the new content. I'm not saying I wouldn't be happy with a unique set for every class on each faction, but I'm hardly surprised they've gone this way. As mentioned above, AQ40 and Sunwell did something similar with their item design.

Flavour-wise, I think the idea of faction specific gear is fantastic, especially as we confront Arthas in Icecrown. Given the choice of looking similar to other Horde players of the same armour type or all members of the same class across both factions, I would choose the former every time. I liked the old vanilla PvP gear for a similar reason.

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Old 06/27/09, 10:08 PM   #359
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Originally Posted by Rani View Post
Yes.

Blizzard is getting millions of dollars from their players on a monthly basis. I expect them not to recycle art for a major contect patch, even if they will have to spend a few thousands on artists.

Why do you expect so little of them?
I don't know; why do you act like they can invest 100% of their money into the current version of WoW when they have 4 other projects being worked on (Diablo 3, WoW expansion 3, unnamed MMO, and StarCraft 2)?

You're also vastly underestimating the cost of art assets. Just the concept art is likely to run into the thousands (two artists each paid $60k/yr working 40 hours a week; 10 hours of time devoted to sketching up concept art, going to meetings about it, revising it, getting it approved, etc, yields $600 for concepting a single set of armor).

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Old 06/27/09, 10:10 PM   #360
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Originally Posted by Rani View Post
Yes.

Blizzard is getting millions of dollars from their players on a monthly basis. I expect them not to recycle art for a major contect patch, even if they will have to spend a few thousands on artists.

Why do you expect so little of them?
Throwing more money at something doesn't make more get done. It is a lot of work to creature a model, texture and then fit it to every single race/gender and I'd prefer seeing my patches coming quicker and them putting more effort into the real T9 in Icecrown. I see these sets on the same level as the AQ40 and Sunwell sets and really expected them to be like that.

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