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Old 04/07/06, 4:42 AM   #1
dreadnor
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Title says it all. If chance to get an extra attack (which can also crit) is better than chance to crit (as I and many other warriors believe), then why do our talent trees give us the option of 6% extra attack (sword spec) vs 5% crit (axe/polearm spec).


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Old 04/07/06, 4:51 AM   #2
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Because humans get +sword skill.

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Old 04/07/06, 8:53 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by dreadnor,April 7th, 2006 @ 3:42AM
Title says it all. If chance to get an extra attack (which can also crit) is better than chance to crit (as I and many other warriors believe), then why do our talent trees give us the option of 6% extra attack (sword spec) vs 5% crit (axe/polearm spec).
Unless they treated warriors differently from rogues on this, I think you should re-check the talent tooltip.

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Old 04/07/06, 10:58 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by dreadnor,April 7th, 2006 @ 3:42AM
Title says it all. If chance to get an extra attack (which can also crit) is better than chance to crit (as I and many other warriors believe), then why do our talent trees give us the option of 6% extra attack (sword spec) vs 5% crit (axe/polearm spec).
Was an error in the tooltip, the actual number of extra attacks was always 5%, it just said 6%. Additionally, the idea that an extra attack is greater than a crit is a little bit complicated. I was a human warrior so I was naturally swords (el oh el 313 2h swords with OEB, 309 with maladath) but if I had ever achieved GM, I would have used the axe for a while. Extra attacks are nice, but they don't help crits on execute, they also don't take away as much bonus from impale, however there is the awesome occasion where you proc sword spec and both crit, axes can't touch that. MS + Extra attack is worse than a crit ms, but if the ms or the extra attack on the sword crits, then you would be better off with the sword. It's just not as clearcut as some people think, and a lot of GM/HW warriors (especially orcs) swear by their axes.

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Old 04/07/06, 6:19 PM   #5
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Undead Polearm Animations would force me to use a Polearm if I had gotten High Warlord.


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Old 04/07/06, 9:54 PM   #6
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I love the sword animation for your avatar.

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Old 04/08/06, 4:23 AM   #7
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Yeah it appears it was a tooltip error. While we are on the subject does anyone know if hoj can proc from specials or just white damage?

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Old 04/08/06, 5:01 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by dreadnor,April 8th, 2006 @ 3:23AM
Yeah it appears it was a tooltip error. While we are on the subject does anyone know if hoj can proc from specials or just white damage?
They fixed most everything to only work off white damage 2 patches ago or so.

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Old 04/08/06, 3:23 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by saramin,April 8th, 2006 @ 4:01AM
Originally Posted by dreadnor,April 8th, 2006 @ 3:23AM
Yeah it appears it was a tooltip error. While we are on the subject does anyone know if hoj can proc from specials or just white damage?
They fixed most everything to only work off white damage 2 patches ago or so.
I thought they removed it/it doesn't work or something. Just the other day I gouged some dude and procced instant poison and perdition's blade fireball off of it.

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Old 04/08/06, 4:07 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by dreadnor,April 8th, 2006 @ 3:23AM
Yeah it appears it was a tooltip error. While we are on the subject does anyone know if hoj can proc from specials or just white damage?

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in before JOHN FUCKING MADDEN

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Old 04/08/06, 4:54 PM   #11
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Old 04/08/06, 5:02 PM   #12
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That screenshot is wrong for so many reasons.

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Old 04/08/06, 6:09 PM   #13
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This is Ruros pic, not even sure if this can happen anymore, but well, yeah.

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Old 04/08/06, 8:47 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by XI-,April 8th, 2006 @ 3:07PM
Originally Posted by dreadnor,April 8th, 2006 @ 3:23AM
Yeah it appears it was a tooltip error. While we are on the subject does anyone know if hoj can proc from specials or just white damage?
You're one of those people that tells other to get their MC water when you still haven't even finish the quest yet. :angry:

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Old 04/09/06, 12:49 PM   #15
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That's my alt ;), my main has had the quest finished for a long time. I'm one of the few people that bothers to get it done on their alt.

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in before JOHN FUCKING MADDEN

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